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Government IPs used to mock Hillsborough disaster in WP

Unread post by Mancunium » Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:50 pm

Exclusive: Shocking Hillsborough insults added on Wikipedia from Government computers
Families shock and anger over revisions including "Blame Liverpool fans" and "You'll Never Walk Again" made from machines in Treasury and Department for Culture, Media and Sport
Liverpool Echo, 24 April 2014 link
Government computers have been used to insert insulting references into Wikipedia entries for the Hillsborough disaster, the ECHO can reveal. A series of sickening revisions to the site began on the 20th anniversary of the 1989 tragedy, when “Blame Liverpool fans” was anonymously added to the Hillsborough section of the encyclopedia site. Computers on Whitehall’s secure intranet were used again in 2012 to change the phrase “You’ll never walk alone” to “You’ll never walk again” and later “You’ll never w*** alone.” A further amendment from a government machine includes changes to the phrase “This is Anfield”, which appears above the players’ tunnel at the club's ground, to “This is a S***hole.” The words “nothing for the victims of the Heysel stadium disaster” were also added to a description of the Hillsborough memorial at the Reds’ stadium. On another occasion, the description of a Bill Shankly statue on the Anfield Wikipedia page was revised to change the well-known quote “He made the people happy” to “He made a wonderful lemon drizzle cake.” The entries were posted from IP addresses used by computers based in government departments including the Department for Culture, Media and Sport, Her Majesty's Treasury and the Office of the Solicitor General. [...] The Cabinet Office yesterday pledged to make “urgent inquiries” into the incident.[...]

How the changes came to light

The vandalism posted by people with access to government computers on Hillsborough Wikipedia pages was traced through a series of IP addresses. Computers on the Whitehall estate are linked by the Government Secure Intranet GSI), a service that allows different departments to share sensitive data securely. The web of computers is tracked online by a handful of IP addresses, the details of which were released by Wallasey MP Angela Eagle following a parliamentary question in 2008, when she was a Treasury minister. Analysis of Wikipedia’s revision history revealed the same unique ID codes were used to amend the Hillsborough and Anfield pages with a series of sick jokes. Of the 34 government IP addresses known to the public, at least two were used over a three-year period to insert the phrases “Blame Liverpool fans” and “You’ll never walk again.” However, an official inquiry is necessary to establish exactly which department and which people are responsible for the changes as the IP addresses cover thousands of Whitehall computers.
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Re: Government IPs used to mock Hillsborough disaster in WP

Unread post by thekohser » Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:57 pm

"...an official inquiry is necessary to establish exactly which department and which people are responsible for the changes as the IP addresses cover thousands of Whitehall computers"...
My guess is it was the janitor.

Will the WMF issue a cease and desist, and will Newyorkbrad file a civil or a criminal suit against the UK government?
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Unread post by Mancunium » Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:15 pm

thekohser wrote:
"...an official inquiry is necessary to establish exactly which department and which people are responsible for the changes as the IP addresses cover thousands of Whitehall computers"...
My guess is it was the janitor.

Will the WMF issue a cease and desist, and will Newyorkbrad file a civil or a criminal suit against the UK government?
This is just a small window into how the working class is thought of, and treated by, the UK's odious Establishment: the herd of Gadarene swine which Jimbo Wales is so desperate to become a part of. Its name is Legion.
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Hillsborough insults added to Wikipedia pages using GOVERNMENT computers
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Re: Government IPs used to mock Hillsborough disaster in WP

Unread post by Kumioko » Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:01 pm

thekohser wrote:
"...an official inquiry is necessary to establish exactly which department and which people are responsible for the changes as the IP addresses cover thousands of Whitehall computers"...
My guess is it was the janitor.

Will the WMF issue a cease and desist, and will Newyorkbrad file a civil or a criminal suit against the UK government?
No kidding, he's blogging about taking me to court and calling me a criminal but for things like this that actually need some attention, not a peep!

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Unread post by Mancunium » Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:47 pm

Now even the mendacious sycophants at the Torygraph have decided that this is a bad thing.

Insulting revisions to Wikipedia entry on Hillsborough made from Government computers
Cabinet Office investigating how Wikipedia entry on Hillsborough disaster was revised from computers based Department for Culture, Media and Sport, the Treasury and the Office of the Solicitor General
The Telegraph, 24 April 2014 link
[..] A spokesman for the Cabinet Office told the Liverpool Echo said: "This is a matter that we will treat with the utmost seriousness and are making urgent inquiries. "No one should be in any doubt of the government's position regarding the Hillsborough disaster and its support for the families of the 96 victims and all those affected by the tragedy." Margaret Aspinall of the Hillsborough Family Support Group said she was "saddened" and "frightened" by the news. She said: "I don't even know how to react, it's just so sad. "I hear something like that and it upsets me a great deal, it makes me incredibly sad. I'm glad somebody has found out about it but I'm frightened to be honest that we haven't known until now."
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Hillsborough: government computers allegedly used to insult victims
Cabinet Office launches inquiry after Liverpool paper claims Wikipedia page on disaster was changed from inside Whitehall
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The Cabinet Office has launched an investigation into claims that insults which were sent to the victims and families of the Hillsborough disaster were sent from government computers. The Liverpool Echo said it had discovered that text on the Wikipedia page of the disaster had been changed from computers within Whitehall. It said that in 2009, "Blame Liverpool Fans" was added to the page, while in 2012 the phrase "You'll never walk alone" was changed to "You'll never walk again" and other insulting variations. [...] The Liverpool paper said it had discovered that entries were posted from IP addresses used by computers based in government departments, including the Department for Culture, Media and Sport, Her Majesty's Treasury and the Office of the Solicitor General. Other entries related to Liverpool Football Club were changed. A further amendment included changes to the phrase "This is Anfield", which appears above the players' tunnel at the club's ground, to "This is a shit hole". [...]

An inquest is under way in Warrington, Cheshire, into the causes of the disaster which left 96 Liverpool fans dead and 776 injured at the stadium of Sheffield Wednesday in 1989. A police officer opened a gate to ease overcrowding but instead let more fans into the crowded fenced enclosure on Leppings Lane. Some police officers and the Sun newspaper blamed Liverpool fans for the disaster but the findings of the 1990 official inquiry into the disaster, the Taylor report, led to the elimination of standing terraces at all major football stadiums in England, Wales and Scotland. Victims families believe further mistakes contributed to the deaths. In September 2012, the Hillsborough Independent Panel concluded that 41 of the 96 deaths could have been avoided if victims had received prompt medical treatment.
Hillsborough insults 'traced back to govt computers'
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The Cabinet Office has launched an investigation over claims insulting additions were made to the Hillsborough Wikipedia page from government computers.

The Liverpool Echo reports the phrase "Blame Liverpool fans" was anonymously added to the Hillsborough page of the encyclopedia site in 2009. [...] A Cabinet Office spokeswoman told the newspaper: “We thank the Liverpool ECHO for bringing this to our attention. This is a matter that we will treat with the utmost seriousness and are making urgent inquiries. “No one should be in any doubt of the government’s position regarding the Hillsborough disaster and its support for the families of the 96 victims and all those affected by the tragedy.”
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Re: Government IPs used to mock Hillsborough disaster in WP

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Hillsborough families 'frightened' by Wikipedia insults
ITV, 25 April 2014 link
Families of Hillsborough victims have described as "deeply upsetting" the revelation that insults relating to the disaster were reportedly posted online from Government offices. Margaret Aspinall, from the Hillsborough Family Support Group, said: "I don't even know how to react, it's just so sad. I hear something like that and it upsets me a great deal, it makes me incredibly sad. "I'm glad somebody has found out about it but I'm frightened to be honest that we haven't known until now." Sheila Coleman, from the Hillsborough Justice Campaign, said: "We're still in the inquests and we've sat listening to the most heartbreaking accounts of that day, and then you hear about things like this. It's absolutely appalling, disgraceful."
Hillsborough Wikipedia posts: Government pledges 'urgent inquiries'
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The government says it is making "urgent inquiries" into reports Whitehall computers were used to make insulting comments about the Hillsborough disaster. [...] Steve Kelly, who lost his 38-year-old brother Michael at Hillsborough, said: "After all these years it's disgusting that people are still trying to put the knife into the families - we're good people. "We've tried to maintain our dignity and people are still doing this sort of thing." [...] Entries in Wikipedia, an online encyclopaedia, can be edited by anyone with access to the internet. The computer used to make those changes can be traced using a computer's unique IP address. [...]
There are 67 other reports of this scandal in the British media today. Even the lowest of the low has joined the pack:

Hillsborough slurs sent from Whitehall computers: Inquiry launched into anonymous Wikipedia modifications
The Daily Mail, 25 April 2014 link
The revelations came to light after 34 IP addresses of Whitehall computers were disclosed via a parliamentary question. Analysis of Wikipedia’s revision history revealed at least two of these unique ID codes were used to amend the Hillsborough and Anfield pages with the sick comments. An investigation has now been launched. Sheila Coleman, of the Hillsborough beiJustice Campaign, described the references as ‘absolutely disgusting’ and said the families of the 96 victims who perished at the FA cup semi-final would demand a formal inquiry.
When the British press as a whole turns on you, you are as done as the late 'News of the World'. In this case, the only villain being named is not 'Whitehall'; it is 'Wikipedia'.
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Hillsborough Justice Campaign react to Wikipedia insults
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Civil servants who made 'sickening' Wikipedia edits about Hillsborough might never be caught, says Government
Cabinet Office admits it will struggle to find civil servants responsible for amendments to website about Hillsborough football disaster
The Telegraph, 25 April 2014 link
Civil servants who made “sickening” edits to entries on the Wikipedia website about the Hillsborough football disaster might never be caught, the Government has admitted. The Cabinet Office was reacting to disclosures that government computers were used to insert insulting revisions to Wikipedia entries on the Hillsborough disaster. [...] The Cabinet Office admitted the length of time since the edits would make it very difficult to find out which civil servants made the changes. He said: “At this time, we have no reason to suspect that the Hillsborough edits involve any particular department, nor more than one or two individuals in 2009 and 2012. “As the first incident happened five years ago and there are hundreds of thousands of people on the government’s network, it may prove challenging to identify who was involved. But we are exhausting every option. Anyone with information should contact the Cabinet Office.”

Two of the Government’s most senior civil servants – Richard Heaton, the Cabinet Office’s permanent secretary, and Sue Gray – the Cabinet Office’s Director General for Propriety and Ethics – have started an investigation. Any findings will then be shared with Labour MP Andy Burnham who is credited with the campaign for inquests into the deaths of the 96 fans, which are currently under way in Warrington. The Cabinet Office spokesman added: “We are treating this matter with the utmost seriousness. Our first priority is to establish the facts and to examine the issues raised. "Once we have the facts, we will update Parliament with the findings and consider further appropriate action. [...]
Hillsborough Wikipedia controversy: re-editing history
The insertion of derogatory comments into Wikipedia entries about the Hillsborough disaster is the latest in a series of controversies involving the website.
Channel 4 News, 25 April 2014 link
The insertion of derogatory comments into Wikipedia entries about the Hillsborough disaster is the latest in a series of controversies involving the website.

Johann Hari
Two years ago the former Independent journalist Johann Hari was forced to apologise after admitting to sockpuppetry on the Wikipedia accounts of rival writers. [...]

Grant Shapps
The Conservative party chairman admitted in 2012 to altering his entry on Wikipedia [...]

Chuka Umunna
A Wikipedia entry comparing the shadow business secretary to President Obama was traced to a computer at the law firm where the MP once worked. [...]

Joan RyanThe former Labour MP, who stepped down in 2010, was connected with attempts to remove information about her expenses claims, the Bureau of Investigative Journalism reported. [...]

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The clue was probably in the name. [...]
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Unread post by Poetlister » Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:10 pm

"Of the 34 government IP addresses known to the public" :blink: Government departments send out thousands of e-mails to the public, and anyone who knows how can find the originating IP. Which IPs are secret?
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Unread post by EricBarbour » Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:38 pm

Had no idea the Hillsborough deaths were still such a raw nerve in the UK, to the point of someone vandalizing the WP article (with stupid comments) would cause a government inquiry. The English still haven't gotten over their class-warfare bit, have they?

So, when are we going full circle, and the Daily Mail starts running recipes for cooking Irish babies?

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Poetlister wrote:"Of the 34 government IP addresses known to the public" :blink: Government departments send out thousands of e-mails to the public, and anyone who knows how can find the originating IP. Which IPs are secret?
It should be trivial to establish who was using which government computer when. But first, Jimmy Wales should be compelled to testify at a public judicial inquiry on the inner workings of Wikipedia. I, for one, would like to know the meaning of this statement in his BLP: "In May 2012, it was reported that Wales was advising the UK government [...] His role reportedly involved working as "an unpaid advisor on crowdsourcing and opening up policymaking" [...]". "Reported"? "Reportedly"? Is he is Advisor to the UK Government, as he often claims to be? If so, he has an obligation to cooperate with the investigation.
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Unread post by Mancunium » Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:03 pm

Tracing offensive edits back to government networks
ITV News, 25 April 2014 link
The first of two IP addresses used in making offensive edits to the Hillsborough disaster page on Wikipedia, 62.25.106.209, can be traced to gateway-101.energis.gsi.gov.uk.

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The second of the two IP addresses used to make offensive changes to the page, 195.92.40.49, can be traced to gateway-202.energis.gsi.gov.uk.

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Unread post by Notvelty » Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:45 pm

Kumioko wrote:
thekohser wrote:
"...an official inquiry is necessary to establish exactly which department and which people are responsible for the changes as the IP addresses cover thousands of Whitehall computers"...
My guess is it was the janitor.

Will the WMF issue a cease and desist, and will Newyorkbrad file a civil or a criminal suit against the UK government?
No kidding, he's blogging about taking me to court and calling me a criminal but for things like this that actually need some attention, not a peep!
Ffs. He is not calling you a criminal. He's made a pompous statement, certainly, but the fact you don"t know what words mean doesn't mean you can substitute your own interpretation.

Perhaps we need another thread about you?
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Unread post by lilburne » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:43 pm

EricBarbour wrote:Had no idea the Hillsborough deaths were still such a raw nerve in the UK, to the point of someone vandalizing the WP article (with stupid comments) would cause a government inquiry. The English still haven't gotten over their class-warfare bit, have they?

So, when are we going full circle, and the Daily Mail starts running recipes for cooking Irish babies?
That will be a Nigella Lawson recipe for peanut stuffed chicken
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/mers ... 372230.stm

But the main motivation will be Liverpool's love of Tories:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3749548.stm
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Unread post by Mancunium » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:18 pm

Wikipedia edits performed on government computers extends beyond Hillsborough disaster
The insulting edits to the Wikipedia entries on the Hillsborough disaster is only one of many offensive edits commited on government computers
The Telegraph, 26 April 2014 link
The Cabinet office is facing fresh questions about dubious Wikipedia edits carried out from the secure Government computer network. It was revealed this week that the systems were used to change the site's Hillsborough disaster article prompting an urgent review by the authorities. But an examination of Wikipedia changes made from an IP address allocated to the government network suggests the problem could be more widespread. One shows an individual wrote about "killing or enslaving" black people on the entry for Howick Falls in South Africa. The addition to the article also suggests that black people are uncivilised and believe "hearsay and myth". [...] Separately, the IT system was used in December 2006 to edit the entry for Manchester to read: "Heralded as the 'w*****s capital of the North'." The city's page had earlier been altered by a user on the Government's Secure Intranet (GSI) to say: "Considered by many of its citizens to be England's second city (if Leeds and Birmingham didn't exist)". [...]

One Government computer user edited the Wikipedia page of Liverpool's Queen Elizabeth II law courts in June 2012 to say that Liverpool midfielder Steven Gerrard was found not guilty at the court of a charge of affray in 2009 "even though he was guilty". The Liverpool captain and England star was, in fact, cleared of all charges. Computers on Whitehall's secure intranet were used again that month to falsely claim on the same court's Wikipedia entry that two renowned former Liverpool FC players had appeared there charged with crimes against humanity. In 2011, one user described the Glasgow suburb of Barlanark as being a place "where the men are men, and so are half the women" on the area's Wikipedia entry.Around the same time, the Wikipedia page for Clydebank was also vandalised by a GSI user, with the words: "It is known locally as a total s***hole". In September 2013, a GSI user edited the Wikipedia profile of Canadian novelist and reporter David Gilmour to accuse him of being a "misogynist, homophobe, racist". [...]

Wikipedia records its editor's IP addresses, their online footprint, and automatically creates a page that logs the activity linked to that address. As the Government Secure Intranet uses a set of fixed, published IP addresses, it is possible to see the editing history of all of the Government's public-facing machines on these automatic "profile pages". The site also keeps all of the historical versions of its encyclopaedia entries going back to their creation, meaning that it is possible to compare the contents of each page before and after it was edited by a Government user. [...] Users of the Government Secure Intranet have been repeatedly warned by Wikipedia's administrators not to vandalise the site's articles. A notice on the personalised page seen by users of the Government network says: "This IP address has been repeatedly blocked from editing Wikipedia in response to abuse of editing privileges." A spokesman for the Cabinet office said: "We announced an investigation to examine edits to Wikipedia, and will look at all concerns raised."
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EricBarbour wrote:Had no idea the Hillsborough deaths were still such a raw nerve in the UK
Yes, there has just been a well-reported 25th anniversary memorial ceremony.

And a firm has stopped sponsoring a local newspaper due to the paper's attacks on Hillsborough mourners.
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Unread post by Poetlister » Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:30 pm

Mancunium wrote:The first of two IP addresses used in making offensive edits to the Hillsborough disaster page on Wikipedia, 62.25.106.209, can be traced to gateway-101.energis.gsi.gov.uk.

The second of the two IP addresses used to make offensive changes to the page, 195.92.40.49, can be traced to gateway-202.energis.gsi.gov.uk.
Oh goody. That's narrowed it down to maybe 1000 PCs on each IP.
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Wikipedia editors never walk alone: Hillsborough changes can be traced
The Conversation, 26 April 2014 link
According to the Liverpool Echo, UK government computers have been used to make offensive comments on the Wikipedia page detailing the 1989 Hillsbourgh Disaster over a number of years. The newspaper reports that revisions to the page have been made from computers using the government’s secure intranet since 2009. They include insults to Liverpool fans and a comment suggesting that fans were responsible for the football ground disaster, in which 96 people died. This case highlights the continual issue of trolling and cybervandalism on Wikipedia. [...]

So many of us use Wikipedia on a daily basis that it is one of the most visited websites in the world. Yet not that many of us really understand how it works. [...] When you edit a Wikipedia page, you can either log in or complete this task anonymously. If you are logged in, it will display your username and the edit you have made. If you have done so anonymously, it will just record your IP address. [...] But every IP address on the internet has an owner. It could be a government organisation, a commercial entity or your service provider giving you access to the internet. A network of organisations across the world, such as RIPE, maintains the database of which addresses is used by whom. [...] While you personally cannot prove which person made the entry, what the Liverpool Echo is relying on is the knowledge that all good network engineers that manage large networks, such as those run by the UK government, keep an accurate internal track of which IP addresses are being used by which computers within their systems.

The net closes in

While the newspaper can only go so far as to identify the IP addresses used to make the offensive comments on the Hillsborough page, the networking experts who run government systems can go further. Many routers, proxy servers and firewalls do keep a log of all traffic entering and exiting the network. Knowing the date, time and IP address, makes our job considerably easier when commencing our detailed search. Assuming that the network experts do keep accurate system logs of who does what on their system, it will only be a matter of time before they track a login to a computer that made the Wikipedia entry on the specific date and time. While they may need to gather other forensic evidence to prove (or disprove) who was on the computer in question, the case against users will be pretty strong. If I was the anonymous editor or editors that made these changes, I’d be quite anxious at the moment.
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Unread post by eppur si muove » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:02 pm

EricBarbour wrote:Had no idea the Hillsborough deaths were still such a raw nerve in the UK, to the point of someone vandalizing the WP article (with stupid comments) would cause a government inquiry. The English still haven't gotten over their class-warfare bit, have they?

So, when are we going full circle, and the Daily Mail starts running recipes for cooking Irish babies?
There was a new report amongst other things into police lies on the matter published in 2012. (Not unrelatedly a week after that, the Sun, responsible for some of the worst of the original coverage, got together with the Police Federation to publicise the Plebgate incident in which two of the triumvirate most responsible for Scouser-bashing over the incident in 1989 got their own back on the Tory party for breaking ranks and saying that the Sun and the Police had been awful back then as had certain Tories.)

A new inquest is going on at the moment.

The causes remain as they ever were.

1) A ground designed on the basis that all spectators were the enemy and needed to be controlled and contained. The fencing at the front of the terracing was the most obvious feature of this but there were also features that made lateral movement to relieve the pressure difficult.

2) Awful policing. The cops at the front who refused to open the gates from the terracing onto the ground were the most notorious but a decision was made to open a gate at the back to allow fans in shortly before kick-off time. Allowing the game to kick-off before most of the pressure was relieved can't have helped.

3) A lot of fans arriving in a rush shortly before kick-off, so not allowing enough time to get in. There were also ones without tickets seeing if they could wangle their way in.

Point 3 was widely emphasised by the police, the Sun and the Tory government in 1989. It is now talked down to the point of being heretical. A few years back some Scouser on the net had a go at me after I had said that the supporters and police at a Liverpool away game in Europe were trying to re-create Hillsborough. In the end the police let fans into whichever European ground it was until the Liverpool section. Surprise, surprise, there were a number of people with genuine tickets who were not let in despite showing their tickets because there were people without tickets who did get in ahead of them. Those lucky sods are no doubt in total denial that this chancing it was a factor in the Hillsborough disaster.

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Unread post by Mancunium » Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:56 pm

Des Lynam 'killed by a giant snowball' and other embarrassing Wikipedia edits from Whitehall computers
Falsifying the death of a legendary TV presenter and laying eternal claim to the Falklands are among the embarrassing Government revisions to the online encyclopedia
The Telegraph, 27 April 2014 link
Whitehall computers were used to brand a radio DJ a "ginger t***", falsify the death of a legendary TV presenter and lay eternal claim to the Falklands, the Telegraph can reveal. Dozens of insulting Wikipedia revisions spanning the last eight years have been discovered after online vandalism of the Hillsborough disaster was linked to government PCs. A series of embarrassing edits to the online encyclopaedia from computers with government IP addresses include revisions to celebrities’ and politicians’ biographies. [...]

More recently, another GSI user faked the death of Des Lynam. Editing the sport presenter’s Wikipedia page in May 2013, a government computer was used to declare Lynam “killed after being hit by a giant snowball” in London. President of Argentina Cristina Kirchner was also targeted in 2013, when her 7,000-word biography was replaced with a declaration of British intentions in the Falklands. A Whitehall user wrote: “The Falklands are Ours [sic] and will be tomorrow, and 20 years from now, and forever!!!!” [...] An earlier revision to the site targeted then ITV chairman Michael Grade, who was described from a government computer as "the a******* who messed with Doctor Who in the mid-1980's. It was added that Mr Grade, who had previously ran the BBC, “was more commonly known as 'Talentless D****** Scum’.”

The latest Whitehall edits are likely to embarrass the Cabinet Office, which was forced to admit last week the civil servants behind the Hillsborough insults may never be found. An urgent investigation was launched after the Liverpool Echo revealed the phrases “Blame Liverpool fans” and “You’ll never walk again” were added to Wikipedia’s Hillsborough pages. The Cabinet Office has since confirmed the inquiry, which is being overseen by Hillsborough campaigner Andy Burnham MP, will be broadened to include other Wikipedia abuse. A spokeswoman said: "Like all modern workforces, the Civil Service is adapting to the use of new media and new technology. “But the Civil Service Code applies at all times, and we take breaches very seriously. We have already announced an investigation to examine offensive edits to Wikipedia, and will look at other concerns raised."
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Offensive edits originating from government networks
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U.K. government computer used to edit Canadian author David Gilmour’s Wikipedia page, call him a ‘homophobe’
National Post, 27 April 2014 link
[...] British politicians are aghast with revelations that an online vandal — or vandals — have, apparently, been making factually inaccurate and offensive edits to Wikipedia pages from government computers. One of the pages targeted was that of Mr. Gilmour, who was labelled a “misogynist, homophobe [and] racist” by an anonymous volunteer editor [...] The U.K. civil service has been under fire since media reported late last week that contributors linked to the government’s Internet Protocol [IP] addresses have tampered with a wide range Wikipedia entries, ranging from pop-culture icons like Barry Manilow to the fatal 1989 Hillsborough disaster, in which 96 people died at a U.K. soccer stadium. The Hillsborough inaccuracies were especially incendiary, with an inquest into the deaths currently under way. Senior civil servants launched an investigation into the reports. [...] Users with a government-linked IP-address have been repeatedly warned by Wikipedia’s administrators not to vandalize the site’s articles. A notice on the personalized page seen by users of the Government network says: “This IP address has been repeatedly blocked from editing Wikipedia in response to abuse of editing privileges.” [...] The volunteer editor responsible for making disparaging remarks about Mr. Gilmour was traced to an IP address that is often used to mask the specific addresses of government computers — a practice that’s in accordance “with standard good information security practice and to help defend against electronic attack,” government records show. [...]
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Ministers face tough task to unearth Wikipedia edit source
Government says finding those responsible will be "challenging"
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The government has called a full inquiry to try and find those responsible for posting offensive comments about the Hillsborough disaster on Wikipedia, but suggests it will prove "challenging" to identify the culprits. A report in the Liverpool Echo last week revealed that additions to the Wikipedia page on the infamous 1989 catastrophe had come from computers within Whitehall, implying that civil servants were responsible. [...] Labour MP Andy Burnham, the former Culture, Media and Sport Secretary and a key figure in helping the families of victims gain access to previously classified documents on the disaster, has been appointed to lead the investigation. The Cabinet Office has said it is "exhausting every option" in a bid to find the culprits, while Mr Burnham called for those responsible to be "held accountable".

Wikipedia condemns comments

Wikipedia is famously open to anyone wishing to edit any page, but it has always taken a firm stance on removing material posted by 'trolls' as soon as it is made aware of such content. Wikimedia UK chief executive Jon Davies said the organisation was "appalled" by what had happened. The website's user guidelines state: "Every user is expected to interact with others civilly, calmly, and in a spirit of cooperation. Do not insult, harass, or intimidate those with whom you have a disagreement." Adrian Mursec, head of development at theEword, said: "With these malicious edits occurring some time ago, finding the culprits is certain to be a difficult task. However, the government is clearly taking this situation very seriously, and is well aware of the strength of feeling surrounding the sensitive topic of Hillsborough."
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Wikipedia edit from government computer added Muslim insult
BBC News, 29 April 2014 link
The charity that represents Wikipedia in the UK has condemned edits made from government computers after more incidents of vandalism emerged. The BBC has discovered that the phrase "all Muslims are terrorists" was added to a page about veils. Another edit deleted text in Cherie Blair's entry about the flat-buying scandal that made headlines in 2002. [...] Stevie Benton, from Wikimedia UK, told the BBC: "We find this kind of vandalism appalling." Wikimedia UK is the local arm of the global Wikimedia Foundation, the charity set up by the online encyclopaedia's founder Jimmy Wales to support the thousands of volunteers who edit and maintain Wikipedia."Wikipedia is the encyclopaedia that anyone can edit," Mr Benton added. [...]

The BBC found more than a hundred instances of inappropriate editing, vandalism and deletion made by computers accessing Wikipedia through the two IP addresses known to be used by government machines. A change made to the entry for "veil" in October 2006 added: "It should be noted that the word Veil, when the letters rearraged [sic], spells evil. "Since the Veil is mostly worn by Muslims, and all Muslims are terrorists (with the argument for this being that all terrorists have been Muslim), this fact should be dually [sic] noted by all." [...] As well as vandalism, large passages of text were deleted. In 2002, Cherie Blair made a public apology after it had emerged she had bought two flats, at a discounted price, with help from convicted fraudster Peter Foster. Paragraphs about the incident in Mrs Blair's Wikipedia entry were removed by a government PC in October 2005. [...]

Other edits made by government machines included:
In the entry for the London bombings, links to websites detailing popular conspiracy theories were added.
The article for former prime minister Tony Blair was deleted in its entirety and replaced with the words "he should be assassinated".
Homophobic insults were added to the entry for newspaper columnist Richard Littlejohn.
Celebrity chef Jamie Oliver, who has worked for the government on healthy eating initiatives, also had homophobic insults added to his page. [...]

Government machines were also used to vandalise, or "troll", on several pages, including:
In the entry about indie band The Libertines: "[T]he more astute critics correctly identify the band as scum", and added a remark about lead singer Pete Doherty's drug use.
Comments about footballer Wayne Rooney that said he was "currently knocking off 'queen chav' Coleen McGlochlin".
The deletion of the entire post for Irish politician Christopher Byrne, replacing it with simply "is a sexy beast".
Changing the entry for BBC presenter Peter Levy to list "Adolf Hitler" as an ex-partner.
Describing Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger as being "made of clay"
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Wikipedia condemns ‘appalling’ government sourced vandalism
The Drum, 30 April 2014 link
Online encyclopaedia Wikipedia has described reports that a number of government computers have been linked to malicious edits on the reference site as ‘appalling’. The charity is investigating a number of media reports which link linked IP addresses used by government computers to several incidents of vandalism on the popular website; including the phrase ‘all Muslims are terrorists’ in a page documenting religious veils. This followed earlier reports that insults had been added to a description of the Hillsborough Football disaster and entries had been deleted from a reference to a flat buying scandal which engulfed former Prime Minister Tony Blair’s wife in 2002 – all subsequently linked back to the government.

Responding to questions posed by the BBC Wikimedia UK’s Stevie Benton said: “We find this kind of vandalism appalling. Wikipedia is the encyclopaedia that anyone can edit. This openness has led to an enormous reference work of great value. While vandalism does occasionally happen we are grateful to the many thousands of volunteers who write, edit and organise the content.” The Cabinet Office has launched an investigation in an effort to identify the civil service employee responsible for the ‘sickening’ amendments, describing the activity as ‘entirely unacceptable’.
So now there are two investigations: one by the UK Government, and another by Wikimedia UK. One might hope that WMUK finds the Government responsible, and that the Government blames Wikimedia.
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Maude vow on Hillsborough web edits
Halifax Courier, 30 April 2014 link
MPs will be horrified and sickened by the use of government computers to make offensive comments about Liverpool fans on the Hillsborough disaster's Wikipedia page, Cabinet Office minister Francis Maude has said. Mr Maude promised a rapid investigation into edits made to the online encyclopaedia from Whitehall computers. [...] Mr Maude was responding to Conservative Stephen Mosely (City of Chester) who asked Mr Maude what action he was taking to prevent misuse of government computers, whether they are outsourced or not. The minister said he was in daily contact with Labour's Hillsborough campaigners Andy Burnham and Alison McGovern and stressed the importance of a quick probe. [...] "We're undertaking a rapid investigation led by my excellent permanent secretary Richard Heaton. The first stage is to try to establish the facts as best we can and deal with it because this horrible issue being prolonged without getting closure is very unsatisfactory and distressing for the families, particularly at this time when it's very fresh in their minds." [...] Since the revelations about the Hillsborough edits, an examination of changes to Wikipedia made from an IP address allocated to the government network suggested the problem could be more widespread, with racist and derogatory remarks posted across a range of pages.
Hillsborough: minister Francis Maude promises online trolls probe will be 'rapid'
Senior cabinet official says MPs were 'horrified and sickened' by ECHO revelations about apparent abuse from Whitehall computer systems
Liverpool Echo, 30 April 2014 link
[...] City of Chester MP Stephen Mosley raised the issue, asking: "My right honourable friend will be aware of the revelations in the Liverpool ECHO last week that government computers were used to access and change Wikipedia pages relating to Hillsborough."What action is he taking to investigate those accusations and to prevent misuse of government computers, whether they're outsourced or not?" Mr Maude said: "I think everyone in the house will be horrified and sickened by those edits to Wikipedia and I've been in close contact, daily contact, with the right honourable gentlemen the member for Leigh, who has such a highly deserved reputation as a campaigner for the Hillsborough families, and with the honourable lady for Wirral South (Alison McGovern MP), the chairman of the parliamentary group (on Hillsborough). "We are undertaking a rapid investigation, led by my excellent permanent secretary Richard Heaton. [...] He added: “There’s no party politics in this, there never has been, it's way beyond that. As I've said before, the families have been let down by all sides over the years and now nothing must be allowed to set things back."
A Public_inquiry (T-H-L) is needed, with Jimmy Wales on the hotseat, the self-serving clowns of WMUK exposed to the light of day, and the occasional Pieing (T-H-L) of witnesses by spectators to ensure maximum international coverage.
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As is to be expected, coverage of this story in the Islamic media focuses on Wikipedia's insults of the Ummah (T-H-L).]

Wikipedia'da müslümanlara hakaret
İnternet ansiklopedisi Wikipedia'nın İngiltere'deki temsilcileri, hükümet görevlilerine tahsis edilmiş bilgisayarlar ile site üzerinde yapılan bazı değişikliklere tepki gösterdi.
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machine-translation from Turkish:
Wikipedia insult to Muslims
Internet encyclopedia Wikipedia's representatives in the UK , have been allocated to government officials with computers reacted to some changes made on the site.

In 2006, one of the computers from a page on the veil debate " All Muslims are terrorists " have found that the expression added . [...] Begum to Nasia Muslim Council of Britain spokesman said in a statement to the BBC , this type of attitude is an unnecessary fear in the community and create an atmosphere of hostility , he said. Begum , " someone from the government , to make such provocative comments very worrying ," he said . UK government made ​​a statement on this development . The statement, " changes made on Wikipedia disgusting. This behavior of employees in public institutions must adhere strictly against the rules , and in no way is unacceptable," the statement said .[...]
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A response to the Hillsborough Wikipedia scandal
The Boar, 9 May 2014 link
On the 24th of April, the Liverpool Echo broke the news that Government computers had been used to edit the Wikipedia page of the Hillsborough Disaster to include insults blaming and demeaning the victims of the tragedy. Alongside the despicable individuals who still hurl abuse during memorial matches and minutes of silence, this type of behaviour is unacceptable and unforgivable. Liverpool fans, especially the families of the 96 who lost their lives on that fateful April afternoon, have had to face a lot of unjust criticism and accusations regarding Hillsborough. From the day of the tragedy itself, blame was subtly shifted onto those who died or were injured by the crush that happened at the stadium’s Leppings Lane end. Details such as the venue’s safety record and the incompetence of the police were glossed over.

For over two decades, LFC and its supporters fought to clear the names of the victims. “Justice for the 96” was not a slogan that was flippantly thrown about; it was a heartbroken cry for integrity that had long been denied. When the Hillsborough Independent Panel released its findings in 2012 and the original inquests were officially overturned, it seemed that these calls would be answered. Due to the ongoing nature of the renewed inquest investigations, it is not possible to discuss details of the tragedy with any degree of certainty beyond stating that 94 Liverpool fans died at the stadium and 2 more died in hospital later, their ages ranging from 10 to 67.

However, it is abundantly clear that police ineptitude made matters worse and that they influenced the subsequent perceptions of the event. Also clear is that the then Conservative administration did nothing to ensure impartial inquiries. At best, the authorities were indifferent to the slandering of the victims; at worst, they incited it. This culture of blaming the club, the belief that the fans brought about their own demise, sadly permeated into many quarters. Of course, no LFC fan can ever forget The Sun’s despicable front page story purporting to tell “The Truth” about how hooliganism and alcohol led to the 96 deaths while the police were simply misunderstood heroes. But tabloids are not the only ones who indulged in victim-blaming. [...]

It is eerie that the distortion of the anthem is one of the changes that were made to the Wikipedia page, along with variations of “Blame Liverpool Fans”. Documents made public following a parliamentary question show that 34 IP addresses used to amend the page between 2009 and 2012 belonged to secure Whitehall intranet computers. The dates, falling either side of the 2010 General Election and, therefore, falling under two different Governments, indicate that there is the possibility of multiple individuals being involved. [...] Popular attitudes regarding Hillsborough have definitely changed over the years, especially since 2012. I for one am extremely grateful for gestures like the donation of scarves from all teams across all divisions in the UK to make the number 96 on the Anfield pitch this year. But there is still work to be done. And, until the day comes when the defamation of this tragedy completely ceases, it is important for us to send a clear message to the families of the victims: You’ll Never Walk Alone.
Note that this is described as "the Hillsborough Wikipedia scandal". I believe the anonymous culprits can, and will be, identified. Until then, all we can say with certainty is: they were Wikipedians.
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UK: Anti-Muslim slurs on Wikipedia came from government computers
MuslimVillage, 6 May 2014 link
[...] We are all accustomed to the dynamics of Wikipedia. Anyone can edit edit its pages. This includes ill-informed people who often perpetuate insularity. Wikipedia views this as vandalism. However, you would expect the UK government to know better, right? Wrong. The BBC found the phrase “all Muslims are terrorists” edited into a Wikipedia’s page on veils. [...] One of the most acerbic statements (now removed) was made by an unknown user who wrote in October 2006: “It should be noted that the word Veil, when the letters rearranged, spells evil.” Anti-Muslim practices are rampant in UK. Islamophobia and Anti-Muslim Hate Crime investigates the extent to which Muslims in the UK endure constant threats of intimidation and life threats. Throughout the world, Muslims are forced to confront the dilemmas triggered by such crippling depictions. These misinformed portrayals have seen many Muslims to unemployment, racial profiling, surveillance ostracism, ethnic slurs, threats and harassment, the world over. The American-Arab-Anti Discrimination Committee reported more than 600 incidents of hate crime in the US within the first week of the September 11 attacks. [...] Whitehall has been accused of making several Wikipedia edits. Their IPs allegedly edited in links to conspiracy theories on the entry for page for the 7/7 mass transit bombings in London. [...]
Not related to the Hillsborough Wikipedia scandal; just another day of thoughtful hate-mongering in the sum total of all knowledge:

Isma labelled preachers of ‘genocide’ who deserve to be caged, on vandalised Wikipedia entry
Malay Mail, 9 May 2014 link
KUALA LUMPUR, May 9 — After stoking controversy with its provocative remarks against Malaysia’s racial and religious minorities, Islamist group Ikatan Muslimin Malaysia (Isma) had its English-language Wikipedia page vandalised today and was labelled as preachers of genocide who deserved to be put in an animal cage. It is not clear when the page was vandalised, but the description was edited out this evening. A search on Wikipedia earlier today found that Isma was described as a group established in 1997 with the name Ikatan Siswazah Muslim Malaysia, which was later changed to Ikatan Muslimin Malaysia in 2005. “Isma is involved with Islamic propagation activities particularly focused on the Muslims in Malaysia, and emphasises on building the true Muslim individuals and society and preaching genocide. (sic) “Leaders of this group are extremist and should be removed from society and put into an animal cage or publicly executed together with all descendants to ensure purity of their lines,” said the entry on its Wikipedia page. [...]
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Civil servants behind 'sickening' Hillsborough slurs identified
Government employee questioned over allegations he posted "You'll never walk again" and "Blame Liverpool fans" on Wikipedia while working in Liverpool
The Telegraph, 21 May 2014 link
A government official in Liverpool is being investigated on suspicion of creating the “sickening” Hillsborough insults posted from government computers on Wikipedia, the Telegraph can disclose. At least one civil servant in Merseyside is believed to have been interviewed by the Home Office after the Telegraph provided evidence of the employee's likely involvement in the abusive online posts. An “urgent inquiry” was launched last month after it was revealed Hillsborough entries on the online encyclopedia were vandalised by users on Whitehall machines to include the phrase “Blame Liverpool fans”. Users logged into the Government’s Secure Intranet (GSI) also added the phrases “nothing for the victims of the Heysel disaster” and “You’ll never walk again” to the site in a string of edits made in 2012. [...]
Merseyside-based civil servant quizzed over sickening Hillsborough Wikipedia slurs
MP Andy Burnham says investigation team pursuing strong leads
Liverpool Echo, 21 May 2014 link
A civil servant is believed to have been questioned by the Home Office over sick changes to Wikipedia pages on the disaster, first revealed by the ECHO. Today a national newspaper reported information it had provided to the Home Office had led to an interview with the Merseyside-based worker. Leigh MP Andy Burnham is heading an urgent inquiry into the changes, which saw entries amended to include phrases such as "Blame Liverpool fans." The Cabinet Office said the posts were "sickening" and launched the investigation, which minister Francis Maude promised would be swift. It had been thought the time which had passed since the edits were made, in 2012, would make identifying individual culprits difficult. But the Daily Telegraph said information they had dug out pointed to one worker who was based in Merseyside. [...]
Liverpool civil servant 'linked to Hillsborough abuse'
BBC News, 21 May 2014 link
The Cabinet Office is investigating claims a Liverpool civil servant may have posted "sickening" Hillsborough insults on Wikipedia. The Daily Telegraph claims to have discovered the employee's likely involvement in the abusive online posts. [...] Kevin Robinson, one of the founders of the Hillsborough Justice Campaign, said: "It is deplorable, whoever was responsible for the comments. But to think it could have been somebody from Merseyside, who must know what the feelings are of people and the community as a whole, is outrageous to contemplate." A Cabinet Office spokeswoman said: "Once we have the facts, the Minister for the Cabinet Office will update Parliament with the findings and consider further appropriate action. It would not be appropriate to comment further whilst this investigation is ongoing."
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Unread post by EricBarbour » Thu May 22, 2014 1:43 am

Working with the online watchdog Wikipediocracy, the Telegraph has discovered evidence that links the civil servant to the “You’ll never walk again” and “You’ll never w*** alone” alterations.
You'd think those other publications would notice WO. But apparently not.

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EricBarbour wrote:
Working with the online watchdog Wikipediocracy, the Telegraph has discovered evidence that links the civil servant to the “You’ll never walk again” and “You’ll never w*** alone” alterations.
You'd think those other publications would notice WO. But apparently not.
Right. I'll add some more text from The Telegraph's article:
However, investigators are now focussing on internet activity unearthed by the Telegraph and Wikipedia experts that appears to link the slurs to just one man employed by a government department in Liverpool. Working with the online watchdog Wikipediocracy, the Telegraph has discovered evidence that links the civil servant to the “You’ll never walk again” and “You’ll never w*** alone” alterations.

Tracking a string of Wikipedia edits and social media activity over a one month period in 2012, patterns of posts have been revealed that link the vandalism to a London-born man living in Merseyside. Evidence also suggest that he has made additional edits to a celebrity’s biography, as well as footballers entries and the online description of his hometown in southern England. It is believed the same civil servant still works in a government department and has denied any involvement in the abusive edits. He has not responded to requests for comment. [...] But Margaret Aspinall, chairwoman of the Hillsborough Family Support Group, said she had felt “frustrated” by the slow progress of the investigation. She said: “It’s ridiculous for the government to suggest they can’t find them, and when they do find them I want to meet them. We weren’t told they could be from Liverpool - one of our own - that’s so much worse. They were big enough and manly enough to do it, and they should face the consequences. Of course, they should be named.” [...]
All editors should be named.
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Unread post by Poetlister » Thu May 22, 2014 11:40 am

Quick, someone - put that link in the Wikipediocracy (T-H-L) article. See how long it is before someone tries to remove it for undue weight.
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Poetlister wrote:Quick, someone - put that link in the Wikipediocracy (T-H-L) article. See how long it is before someone tries to remove it for undue weight.
Well; it's in The Independent too.
However, it is believed that the Home Office has now interviewed a suspect, after it was handed evidence showing internet activity on the webpage uncovered in a joint investigation by The Telegraph and online watchdog Wikipediocracy.

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Unread post by Hex » Sat May 24, 2014 10:20 pm

Working with the online watchdog Wikipediocracy, the Telegraph has discovered evidence that links the civil servant to the “You’ll never walk again” and “You’ll never w*** alone” alterations.
Will a blog post be forthcoming on this, then? I imagine that may not be possible for a while due to the matter presumably soon being sub judice (T-H-L).
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Unread post by thekohser » Sun May 25, 2014 2:18 pm

Considering the mob mentality that surrounds soccer in the UK (second in violence only to bicycle helmet policy debates), and considering the real-world harms that would possibly befall the perpetrator of the online misdeeds, I thought it was best if a professional journalist handled the documentation of the circumstantial evidence. Others agreed with me, and so I think it is unlikely Wikipediocracy would be running its own blog post about this.
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thekohser wrote:(second in violence only to bicycle helmet policy debates)
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Unread post by dogbiscuit » Mon May 26, 2014 8:13 pm

Poetlister wrote:
thekohser wrote:(second in violence only to bicycle helmet policy debates)
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JzG???
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dogbiscuit wrote:
Poetlister wrote:
thekohser wrote:(second in violence only to bicycle helmet policy debates)
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JzG???
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Unread post by Coat of Many Colours » Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:33 am

Mancunium wrote:Exclusive: Shocking Hillsborough insults added on Wikipedia from Government computers
Families shock and anger over revisions including "Blame Liverpool fans" and "You'll Never Walk Again" made from machines in Treasury and Department for Culture, Media and Sport
Liverpool Echo, 24 April 2014 link
Government computers have been used to insert insulting references into Wikipedia entries for the Hillsborough disaster, the ECHO can reveal. A series of sickening revisions to the site began on the 20th anniversary of the 1989 tragedy, when “Blame Liverpool fans” was anonymously added to the Hillsborough section of the encyclopedia site. Computers on Whitehall’s secure intranet were used again in 2012 to change the phrase “You’ll never walk alone” to “You’ll never walk again” and later “You’ll never w*** alone.” A further amendment from a government machine includes changes to the phrase “This is Anfield”, which appears above the players’ tunnel at the club's ground, to “This is a S***hole.” The words “nothing for the victims of the Heysel stadium disaster” were also added to a description of the Hillsborough memorial at the Reds’ stadium. On another occasion, the description of a Bill Shankly statue on the Anfield Wikipedia page was revised to change the well-known quote “He made the people happy” to “He made a wonderful lemon drizzle cake.” The entries were posted from IP addresses used by computers based in government departments including the Department for Culture, Media and Sport, Her Majesty's Treasury and the Office of the Solicitor General. [...] The Cabinet Office yesterday pledged to make “urgent inquiries” into the incident.[...]

How the changes came to light

The vandalism posted by people with access to government computers on Hillsborough Wikipedia pages was traced through a series of IP addresses. Computers on the Whitehall estate are linked by the Government Secure Intranet GSI), a service that allows different departments to share sensitive data securely. The web of computers is tracked online by a handful of IP addresses, the details of which were released by Wallasey MP Angela Eagle following a parliamentary question in 2008, when she was a Treasury minister. Analysis of Wikipedia’s revision history revealed the same unique ID codes were used to amend the Hillsborough and Anfield pages with a series of sick jokes. Of the 34 government IP addresses known to the public, at least two were used over a three-year period to insert the phrases “Blame Liverpool fans” and “You’ll never walk again.” However, an official inquiry is necessary to establish exactly which department and which people are responsible for the changes as the IP addresses cover thousands of Whitehall computers.
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"Telegraph" piece today: fired but not outed http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... slurs.html

Incidentally K, that remark of yours above about mob violence was pretty insensitive in the circumstances.

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Unread post by Tippi Hadron » Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:53 am

Coat of Many Colours wrote:
"Telegraph" piece today: fired but not outed http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... slurs.html
Of course, Mr You'll Never W*nk Alone also had a "proper" Wikipedia account where he gave his full name. And date of birth. And place of residence. Pretty pictures of him and his mates, too.

He was easy enough to find, and we could have doxed him in public back in April, and made David Gerard and his cronies look nicely incompetent in the process.
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Unread post by Vigilant » Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:03 am

Sounds like time to add it to the List of Wikipedia Controversies!
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Tippi Hadron wrote:
Coat of Many Colours wrote:
"Telegraph" piece today: fired but not outed http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... slurs.html
Of course, Mr You'll Never W*nk Alone also had a "proper" Wikipedia account where he gave his full name. And date of birth. And place of residence. Pretty pictures of him and his mates, too.

He was easy enough to find, and we could have doxed him in public back in April, and made David Gerard and his cronies look nicely incompetent in the process.
But we're not Wikipedia.
Well, I don't know the history of it. The "Telegraph" article implied there was a full scale "investigation" into the source by the UK government department itself. But I can quite believe he was identifiable from his account all along. In this case the abuse was criminal (unlike, say, Kumoiko's) so I would have no problem with outing him to his employers. I'm surprised he wasn't prosecuted.

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Unread post by Tippi Hadron » Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:41 am

Vigilant wrote:Sounds like time to add it to the List of Wikipedia Controversies!
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Great idea. Preferably with a mention of The Telegraph's rising star reporter, Mr Oliver Duggan:
Civil servant fired after Telegraph investigation into Hillsborough Wikipedia slurs

A civil servant in Liverpool has been fired for using government computers to post abuse about the Hillsborough disaster on the Wikipedia website following an investigation by The Telegraph.

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The offender, who is from London but lives in Liverpool with his fiancée, was found after changes to the online encyclopedia were linked to his social media activity and employment history.

The suspected author was first located when his abusive edits from a government secure intranet (GSI) computer ended with a joke about the Liverpool stadium’s capacity.

He claimed that attendance at the ground was worse than Chelsea and Everton football clubs — “and even Borehamwood”, a town in Hertfordshire.

Wikipediocracy, an online community concerned with abuse of the internet, alerted The Telegraph to subsequent edits that appeared to have been made from the same government computer to Borehamwood’s dedicated Wikipedia page.

Among a cluster of changes made soon after the Hillsborough slurs, the civil servant is believed to have penned an addition to the town’s “Notable Companies” section.

He wrote critical comments about Adecco, a recruitment firm with which he had some grievances, and left biographical details about his time in the area.

Wikipediocracy and The Telegraph later traced a man with access to the GSI who had made comments about Hillsborough and Heysel on social media and was also linked to Adecco, Borehamwood, Chelsea and Everton.

The government employee grew up in Hertfordshire and his parents still live in the county. He is an avid Chelsea fan and is engaged to an Everton supporter.

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Coat of Many Colours wrote: Well, I don't know the history of it. The "Telegraph" article implied there was a full scale "investigation" into the source by the UK government department itself. But I can quite believe he was identifiable from his account all along. In this case the abuse was criminal (unlike, say, Kumoiko's) so I would have no problem with outing him to his employers. I'm surprised he wasn't prosecuted.
It was an insensitive and dickish by a 22 yo it wasn't criminal. If it hadn't have been from a government computer the journo wouldn't have made anything of it. Dickish comment from Government official sensational, dickish comment from 22 yo meh!
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lilburne wrote:
Coat of Many Colours wrote: Well, I don't know the history of it. The "Telegraph" article implied there was a full scale "investigation" into the source by the UK government department itself. But I can quite believe he was identifiable from his account all along. In this case the abuse was criminal (unlike, say, Kumoiko's) so I would have no problem with outing him to his employers. I'm surprised he wasn't prosecuted.
It was an insensitive and dickish by a 22 yo it wasn't criminal. If it hadn't have been from a government computer the journo wouldn't have made anything of it. Dickish comment from Government official sensational, dickish comment from 22 yo meh!
Quite, he was fired for bringing his employer into disrepute (which is reasonable behaviour by them).

It also possibly falls into an area where the police have been more active, Internet trolls have been prosecuted for their malicious behaviour, even though it was clearly immature behaviour (which does not condone it). I'm not yet sure whether it will be or has been decided whether there should be a prosecution One suspects that, with the refusal to name him, it has been pointed out that any possible criminal prosecution would expose the individual to the potential of extreme harm from "fans" so it has been agreed it is not to take this further.

The balancing side is that the whole Hillsborough thing has acquired an unhealthy, unsavoury side (not helped by police cover-ups and so on) where Liverpudlians are creating something of a cult around the disaster. I suspect that there are swathes of similar vandalisms which are equally distasteful throughout Wikipedia, and of course the rest of the Internet, which is ignored as not in the public interest to pursue.
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Unread post by Coat of Many Colours » Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:45 pm

dogbiscuit wrote:
lilburne wrote:
Coat of Many Colours wrote: Well, I don't know the history of it. The "Telegraph" article implied there was a full scale "investigation" into the source by the UK government department itself. But I can quite believe he was identifiable from his account all along. In this case the abuse was criminal (unlike, say, Kumoiko's) so I would have no problem with outing him to his employers. I'm surprised he wasn't prosecuted.
It was an insensitive and dickish by a 22 yo it wasn't criminal. If it hadn't have been from a government computer the journo wouldn't have made anything of it. Dickish comment from Government official sensational, dickish comment from 22 yo meh!
Quite, he was fired for bringing his employer into disrepute (which is reasonable behaviour by them).

It also possibly falls into an area where the police have been more active, Internet trolls have been prosecuted for their malicious behaviour, even though it was clearly immature behaviour (which does not condone it). I'm not yet sure whether it will be or has been decided whether there should be a prosecution One suspects that, with the refusal to name him, it has been pointed out that any possible criminal prosecution would expose the individual to the potential of extreme harm from "fans" so it has been agreed it is not to take this further.

The balancing side is that the whole Hillsborough thing has acquired an unhealthy, unsavoury side (not helped by police cover-ups and so on) where Liverpudlians are creating something of a cult around the disaster. I suspect that there are swathes of similar vandalisms which are equally distasteful throughout Wikipedia, and of course the rest of the Internet, which is ignored as not in the public interest to pursue.
Yes, agree with all of this. Regarding John's point he might be right, but on the face of it these were offences against the Communications Act (UK) 2003 section 127 (as always stressing I'm not a lawyer) http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/a_to_c/comm ... nces/#an11. The Director of Public Prosecutions might well have thought them borderline and I get the impression in any case that the Hillsborough families wanted to play down the incident, indeed wanting to spare him an outing.

I don't know if you're Brit or not DB, but it was not just the police cover-ups that caused the bitterness. There was also a sensationally offensive front cover news story by the "Sun" newspaper directly following the disaster, suggesting it was a consequence of loutish and drunken behaviour http://blog.coyoteproductions.co.uk/his ... aster_sun/. To this day you won't see the "Sun" newspaper read in Liverpool and it continues to have repercussions as evidenced by the recent Ed Miliband PR gaffe http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... ne-hacking. Just a heads-up for readers across the pond.

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Unread post by lilburne » Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:08 pm

IIRC the problem at Hillsborough was that the pitch was surrounded by high security fences and the people at the front couldn't get out when a crush happened. The reason that a high security fence surrounded the pitch was because FOOTBALL FANS at the time were prone to climb over the low barriers invade the pitch and chase after the FANS of teh other team. Each club had its group of supporters that did this. Four years previously Liverpool fans had smashed down separating fences at Hysel Stadium and 39 odd fans were killed as a result, and all English teams were banned from European competitions for 5 years.

That is the background, which doesn't mean that the fans that were killed in the crush at Hillsborough were in anyway to blame, nor does it mean that fans behind them were the cause of the crush. But it does explain why the police were slow to open gates when they saw fans trying to smash down the fences, and why in the aftermath many initially thought it was more of the same.

Hillsborough was a disaster that had its roots in football hooliganism. Liverpool fans, Manchester United fans, Millwall fans, Chelsea fans, Arsenal fans, and the fans of 89 other teams had all played their part.
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Unread post by thekohser » Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:16 pm

Coat of Many Colours wrote:Incidentally K, that remark of yours above about mob violence was pretty insensitive in the circumstances.
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