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Wikipedia down in Europe

Unread post by Moral Hazard » Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:32 pm

wikipedia is not loading in Europe.

If anybody can write a short piece and put it on the blog, we would get a lot of traffic.
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Re: Wikipedia down in Europe

Unread post by Dysklyver » Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:13 pm

Reports suggest someone DDoSed essams, Wikimedias Netherlands based server.

Obviously this is an example that if Wikipedia's European edge server is turned off, then Wikipedia can't be reached in Europe.
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Re: Wikipedia down in Europe

Unread post by Vigilant » Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:18 pm

Dysklyver wrote:Reports suggest someone DDoSed essams, Wikimedias Netherlands based server.

Obviously this is an example that if Wikipedia's European edge server is turned off, then Wikipedia can't be reached in Europe.
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Re: Wikipedia down in Europe

Unread post by Kumioko » Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:28 pm

For what it's worth a large porton of the Cell service is currently not working in the US. It could be related, but I'm not sure.

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Re: Wikipedia down in Europe

Unread post by Bezdomni » Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:31 pm

Apparently, the attackers know how to get the word out...

https://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/1170061571957112844
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Unread post by Xade » Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:35 pm

Bezdomni wrote:Apparently, the attackers know how to get the word out...

https://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/1170061571957112844
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Unread post by Jbhunley » Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:38 pm

Kumioko wrote:For what it's worth a large porton of the Cell service is currently not working in the US. It could be related, but I'm not sure.
Do you have any reporting on this? Regions/areas effected. I see Verizon down for most of the East Coast (FEMA Regions I-III) and a US Cellular map with I-III and a lot of the Central US. Have you heard any reports of land line outages?

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Unread post by Vigilant » Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:39 pm

Bezdomni wrote:Apparently, the attackers know how to get the word out...

https://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/1170061571957112844
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Re: Wikipedia down in Europe

Unread post by Dysklyver » Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:44 pm

Well Wikimedia Italy has confirmed it was a DDoS attack on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/WikimediaItalia/sta ... 5309696006

Although they have been making it pretty clear it was an attack for some time now on IRC.
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Re: Wikipedia down in Europe

Unread post by Kumioko » Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:38 am

Jbhunley wrote:
Kumioko wrote:For what it's worth a large porton of the Cell service is currently not working in the US. It could be related, but I'm not sure.
Do you have any reporting on this? Regions/areas effected. I see Verizon down for most of the East Coast (FEMA Regions I-III) and a US Cellular map with I-III and a lot of the Central US. Have you heard any reports of land line outages?

Thank you.

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It seems to affect T-Mobile, Sprint and Verizon from what I've seen.

It seems to affect everything, all networks, East of Kansas City and The western Coast line from Seattle down to San Diego, as well as Southern Texas and the Gulf. So, all the populated Areas of the US.

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Unread post by mendaliv » Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:41 am

Down in the midwest via cellular (AT&T IP address), up via fiberoptic (small ISP).
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Unread post by Vigilant » Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:55 am

No problem out west.
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Re: Wikipedia down in Europe

Unread post by Jbhunley » Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:04 am

Kumioko wrote:
Jbhunley wrote:
Kumioko wrote:For what it's worth a large porton of the Cell service is currently not working in the US. It could be related, but I'm not sure.
Do you have any reporting on this? Regions/areas effected. I see Verizon down for most of the East Coast (FEMA Regions I-III) and a US Cellular map with I-III and a lot of the Central US. Have you heard any reports of land line outages?

Thank you.

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It seems to affect T-Mobile, Sprint and Verizon from what I've seen.

It seems to affect everything, all networks, East of Kansas City and The western Coast line from Seattle down to San Diego, as well as Southern Texas and the Gulf. So, all the populated Areas of the US.
Thank you + mendaliv & Vigilant. It looks like it is just cellular then, not land lines or the trunk lines then. I was afraid I might lose my night to being stuck on a HF radio -- I already spent enough time eying WP while listening to atmospheric noise and M110a modems without an *actual* communications emergency :-)

It seems like a big outage though so if it goes pop at least I won't be surprised.

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Re: Wikipedia down in Europe

Unread post by Katie » Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:06 am

It's not working where I am. Worked for a short time presumably before the DDOS attack started again.

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Unread post by mendaliv » Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:55 am

mendaliv wrote:Down in the midwest via cellular (AT&T IP address), up via fiberoptic (small ISP).
Down on fiberoptic now. Still down on cellular.
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Unread post by Midsize Jake » Sat Sep 07, 2019 3:38 am

I'm still seeing the same Communist-era Mongolian yak-porn images that I usually get... Oops, hang on, I guess I just fell asleep for a minute there.

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Unread post by Vigilant » Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:47 am

Midsize Jake wrote:I'm still seeing the same Communist-era Mongolian yak-porn images that I usually get... Oops, hang on, I guess I just fell asleep for a minute there.
That's just commons' home page.
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Re: Wikipedia down in Europe

Unread post by Dysklyver » Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:12 pm

Well some random hackers claimed responsibility on Twitter and were promptly reported to the NCSC by angry Wikimedia devs. No doubt they will be regretting it later.

Embarrassingly the entirety of Wikimedia's European traffic seems to have been routed through a single network switch meaning that DDoS'ing their network was actually absurdly easy.
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Unread post by Vigilant » Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:15 pm

Dysklyver wrote:Well some random hackers claimed responsibility on Twitter and were promptly reported to the NCSC by angry Wikimedia devs. No doubt they will be regretting it later.

Embarrassingly the entirety of Wikimedia's European traffic seems to have been routed through a single network switch meaning that DDoS'ing their network was actually absurdly easy.
Color me shocked.
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Unread post by Randy from Boise » Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:20 pm

Vigilant wrote:
Dysklyver wrote:Well some random hackers claimed responsibility on Twitter and were promptly reported to the NCSC by angry Wikimedia devs. No doubt they will be regretting it later.

Embarrassingly the entirety of Wikimedia's European traffic seems to have been routed through a single network switch meaning that DDoS'ing their network was actually absurdly easy.
Color me shocked.
Jimmy will be along momentarily to whine about how hard they're working and how everyone needs to be thoughtful...
They also clearly need more money to fix the problem. Give generously. (Did you know that if everyone in the world gave the price of a cup of coffee, they could keep the lights on without advertising for another year???)

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Unread post by Vigilant » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:17 pm

Randy from Boise wrote:
Vigilant wrote:
Dysklyver wrote:Well some random hackers claimed responsibility on Twitter and were promptly reported to the NCSC by angry Wikimedia devs. No doubt they will be regretting it later.

Embarrassingly the entirety of Wikimedia's European traffic seems to have been routed through a single network switch meaning that DDoS'ing their network was actually absurdly easy.
Color me shocked.
Jimmy will be along momentarily to whine about how hard they're working and how everyone needs to be thoughtful...
They also clearly need more money to fix the problem. Give generously. (Did you know that if everyone in the world gave the price of a cup of coffee, they could keep the lights on without advertising for another year???)

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Unread post by Poetlister » Sat Sep 07, 2019 4:13 pm

Vigilant wrote:Image
He looks like someone tried to whittle a penis out of a hotdog.
He looks like a model of respectability compared to his former self. (I'm not linking to his image on Encyclopædia Dramatica.)
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Unread post by Vigilant » Sat Sep 07, 2019 6:06 pm

Poetlister wrote:
Vigilant wrote:Image
He looks like someone tried to whittle a penis out of a hotdog.
He looks like a model of respectability compared to his former self. (I'm not linking to his image on Encyclopædia Dramatica.)
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Unread post by Poetlister » Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:34 pm

It's made the mainstream media in Britain:
Wikipedia down: ‘Malicious attack’ brings down online encyclopedia after pages fail to load

‘Takedown attacks threaten everyone’s fundamental rights to freely access and share information,’ Wikimedia Foundation says
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Unread post by Kumioko » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:16 pm

Poetlister wrote:It's made the mainstream media in Britain:
Wikipedia down: ‘Malicious attack’ brings down online encyclopedia after pages fail to load

‘Takedown attacks threaten everyone’s fundamental rights to freely access and share information,’ Wikimedia Foundation says
The WMF is full of shit. It doesn't violate anyone's rights, it just forces them to go to a trustworthy source for information instead of the Wikipedia fansite.

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Unread post by Ada Sinn » Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:11 pm

When this DDoS attack happened on Friday, I was kind of hoping the hackers would replace the main page on en:wp with some banner like "Bring Laura Hale to justice". That would be great global exposure.
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Unread post by Dysklyver » Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:20 pm

Ada Sinn wrote:When this DDoS attack happened on Friday, I was kind of hoping the hackers would replace the main page on en:wp with some banner like "Bring Laura Hale to justice". That would be great global exposure.
The "hackers" just overloaded a network switch, there was no chance of anything high effort happening, alas.
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Dysklyver wrote:
Ada Sinn wrote:When this DDoS attack happened on Friday, I was kind of hoping the hackers would replace the main page on en:wp with some banner like "Bring Laura Hale to justice". That would be great global exposure.
The "hackers" just overloaded a network switch, there was no chance of anything high effort happening, alas.
Yes, hacking is a grossly overused term. Vandalism on Wikipedia is often described in the popular press as hacking, and of course it isn't. To replace the front page, you'd need to either hijack an admin account (which has been done) or penetrate deep into the Wikipedia database.
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