Meet the editors: WayneRay

[Hex]

Blog post updated by the author, drawing attention to WMF lack of action.

That appears to have broken the old post url: https://wikipediocracy.com/2016/03/21/m ... s-wayneray

[Zoloft]

Blog post updated by the author, drawing attention to WMF lack of action.

That appears to have broken the old post url: https://wikipediocracy.com/2016/03/21/m ... s-wayneray

That's an archive URL. The post was republished to get the search engine bots back in.
Maybe I can later on just duplicate it so there will be a copy at both URLs.
Edit: or place a quick redirect.
It's amazing that you can't change the slug (link) to be whatever you want on a post.
I decided just to move the update back to the original link.

[Kumioko]

I can't believe no one has started an RFC or anything about this on Meta and the WMF hasn't done anything either. If someone doesn't beat me to it or I don't get blocked first I am going to start an RFC on Meta to globally block this guy.

[Kumioko]

Well I went and created a short and quick RFC on this chap at meta. Here is a linkhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Request ... r_WayneRay[/link].

[thekohser]

Once again, I wield great powers on Wikipedia, even though I am purportedly banned.

[Kumioko]

Once again, I wield great powers on Wikipedia, even though I am purportedly banned.

Enter the new Cabal of the banned user!

[Poetlister]

Once again, I wield great powers on Wikipedia, even though I am purportedly banned.

This is a difficult one. Should photos taken by a child molested be deleted? The deletion request on Commons is concerned with copyright, not the misconduct of the (alleged) photographer. A reasonable comparison: I once gave a child a book on how to play chess. Subsequent to that, the author went to prison for sex offences. Should I have taken the book back? There was nothing in it that could harm a child.

[Kumioko]

Once again, I wield great powers on Wikipedia, even though I am purportedly banned.

This is a difficult one. Should photos taken by a child molested be deleted? The deletion request on Commons is concerned with copyright, not the misconduct of the (alleged) photographer. A reasonable comparison: I once gave a child a book on how to play chess. Subsequent to that, the author went to prison for sex offences. Should I have taken the book back? There was nothing in it that could harm a child.

IMO that question is best answered by stating it would depend on the pictures. If he was taking pictures of birds, bushes or trees, I would say no they are fine. But taking pictures of other peoples children (and this is not specific to a convicted sex offender BTW) who don't have the ability to give consent is probably not ok.

[thekohser]

Poetlister, you have been schooled by Kumioko.

[Kumioko]

I have to admit I am disappointed, ashamed and generally unimpressed with the turnout for the Global ban on this fella. I am 100% certain that a part of that lack of turnout is my popularity with the admins but still. I would think that they would put their pettiness aside but I guess I'm wrong.

It's pretty telling of the priorities of the staff, admins and functionaries on the WMF sites. They don't seem to mind a convicted sex offender having access to the sites and being in a situation to potentially endanger others but criticize them and your out!

[Michaeldsuarez]

I have to admit I am disappointed, ashamed and generally unimpressed with the turnout for the Global ban on this fella. I am 100% certain that a part of that lack of turnout is my popularity with the admins but still. I would think that they would put their pettiness aside but I guess I'm wrong.

It's pretty telling of the priorities of the staff, admins and functionaries on the WMF sites. They don't seem to mind a convicted sex offender having access to the sites and being in a situation to potentially endanger others but criticize them and your out!

I think you're attributing the small turn-out to the wrong cause. Meta is ignored by most. Not enough interesting things happens there to warrant users checking it daily. You have to spread the word around. In fact, the Global bans policy requires word to be spread around. I've alerted the Commons community and other communities to the discussion's existence:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Village_pump&diff=193621818&oldid=193615021

https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard&diff=193621850&oldid=193617750

Unfortunately, I'm not permitted to alert the enwiki community due to my ban, and you're similarly impaired. Hopefully, a Good Samaritan will do it instead.

[Kumioko]

I have to admit I am disappointed, ashamed and generally unimpressed with the turnout for the Global ban on this fella. I am 100% certain that a part of that lack of turnout is my popularity with the admins but still. I would think that they would put their pettiness aside but I guess I'm wrong.

It's pretty telling of the priorities of the staff, admins and functionaries on the WMF sites. They don't seem to mind a convicted sex offender having access to the sites and being in a situation to potentially endanger others but criticize them and your out!

I think you're attributing the small turn-out to the wrong cause. Meta is ignored by most. Not enough interesting things happens there to warrant users checking it daily. You have to spread the word around. In fact, the Global bans policy requires word to be spread around. I've alerted the Commons community and other communities to the discussion's existence:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Village_pump&diff=193621818&oldid=193615021

https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard&diff=193621850&oldid=193617750

Unfortunately, I'm not permitted to alert the enwiki community due to my ban, and you're similarly impaired. Hopefully, a Good Samaritan will do it instead.

Thanks. That's possible, but I have seen a pretty good turnout to other things and I posted it to the Forum page on Meta that has a decent amount of watchers so plenty of folks know it's there. It's pretty much whatever though at this point. All I can do is create the page, I can't perform the action so if the people who can aren't interested for whatever reason then it's on them.

[Poetlister]

It's currently running 12-0 in favour. I would be surprised if anyone opposes.

[Kumioko]

It's currently running 12-0 in favour. I would be surprised if anyone opposes.

Someone actually removed the section for opposes. I don't know if that was intentional or accidental and I was going to put it back but didn't see the point.

[Kumioko]

It's currently running 12-0 in favour. I would be surprised if anyone opposes.

It's up to 23-0 now so it's definitely picking up.

[Zoloft]

I added the 25th !vote in support.

[Poetlister]

There's still no Oppose section. I suppose that a Wikilawyer could challenge the result on that basis. The closest to a dissent comes from Billinghurst: "Comment The user has been blocked at enWS, though the reasons for the block were due to actions on another wiki, which generally would not be consistent with our local policy there, and more would seem to be an overly enthusiastic approach by an individual admin. So please don't use the block at enWS as evidence of behaviour. — billinghurst sDrewth 00:31, 19 April 2016 (UTC)"

As has been noted, Cirt has blocked him on WQ, WN and WS although he's never edited on WQ or WN, and not edited WS since 2009. Certainly on WQ and WS, that would be totally out of order and grounds for a strong rebuke for Cirt if WayneRay were not a serious criminal, but that's Cirt for you.

[Kumioko]

There's still no Oppose section. I suppose that a Wikilawyer could challenge the result on that basis. The closest to a dissent comes from Billinghurst: "Comment The user has been blocked at enWS, though the reasons for the block were due to actions on another wiki, which generally would not be consistent with our local policy there, and more would seem to be an overly enthusiastic approach by an individual admin. So please don't use the block at enWS as evidence of behaviour. — billinghurst sDrewth 00:31, 19 April 2016 (UTC)"

As has been noted, Cirt has blocked him on WQ, WN and WS although he's never edited on WQ or WN, and not edited WS since 2009. Certainly on WQ and WS, that would be totally out of order and grounds for a strong rebuke for Cirt if WayneRay were not a serious criminal, but that's Cirt for you.

That is exactly why I didn't list them in the proposal. I only listed EnWP and Commons because those were the ones he was active in and since the requirement was that the person should be indef blocked/banned in at least 2 wiki's that was enough.

[Kumioko]

It appears the WMF has SanFran banned WayneRay along with three other names including Ktr101 (T-C-L) and John F. Lewis (T-C-L) at this linkhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php? ... d=14998712[/link]. Never heard of the other name.

[Michaeldsuarez]

It appears the WMF has SanFran banned WayneRay along with three other names including Ktr101 (T-C-L) and John F. Lewis (T-C-L) at this linkhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php? ... d=14998712[/link]. Never heard of the other name.

I remember John F. Lewis:

http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5961

But he was cleared of those charges:

http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=154049#p154049

Lewis is the operator of Miraheze:

https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:John

[Kumioko]

It appears the WMF has SanFran banned WayneRay along with three other names including Ktr101 (T-C-L) and John F. Lewis (T-C-L) at this linkhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php? ... d=14998712[/link]. Never heard of the other name.

I remember John F. Lewis:

http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5961

But he was cleared of those charges:

http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=154049#p154049

Lewis is the operator of Miraheze:

https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:John

Well I guess the WMF didn't care about that.

I ain't going to lie, I saw that 4 people were blocked and I was like damn. I was rather surprised to see I wasn't one of them yet.

[Michaeldsuarez]

It appears the WMF has SanFran banned WayneRay along with three other names including Ktr101 (T-C-L) and John F. Lewis (T-C-L) at this linkhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php? ... d=14998712[/link]. Never heard of the other name.

I remember John F. Lewis:

http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5961

But he was cleared of those charges:

http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=154049#p154049

Lewis is the operator of Miraheze:

https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:John

Well I guess the WMF didn't care about that.

I ain't going to lie, I saw that 4 people were blocked and I was like damn. I was rather surprised to see I wasn't one of them yet.

Actually, it looks like Lewis was originally banned by Jalexander-WMF in November 2015:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=User%3AJohn_F._Lewis%40global

23:28, 22 April 2016 WMFOffice (talk | contribs) changed status for global account "User:John F. Lewis@global": set locked; unset (none) (Re-lock - WMF Global Ban, questions should be addressed to ca@wikimedia.org)
23:27, 22 April 2016 Jalexander-WMF (talk | contribs) changed status for global account "User:John F. Lewis@global": set (none); unset locked (Switching to WMF Global Ban)
01:07, 13 November 2015 Jalexander-WMF (talk | contribs) changed status for global account "User:John F. Lewis@global": set locked; unset (none) (OFFICE ACTION - Trust & Safety - Please contact ca@wikimedia.org with any questions or appeals. Case#10582)

He resigned from Mizaheze a month later:

https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=User:John&diff=3594

Hi, I'm John Lewis.

I used to be lead system administrator of Miraheze (and a steward too). However following personal issues, I had to resign.

[[User:Southparkfan|Southparkfan]] succeeded me in leading the project, I place all my faith in him to carry on the dream we built together here for the community.

I may return in the future but for now I merely live my life, hopefully being remembered as the 'founder', first 'leader' and the person who brought Miraheze to life (with help of course)!

This my goodbye for now message, gone but not forgotten. See you all in the future hopefully!

John

But regained his position in February:

https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=User:John&diff=5820

So whatever Lewis did was apparently forgivable in the eyes of Lewis' Miraheze colleagues. Unfortunately, the WMF isn't very forgiving.

[Moral Hazard]

One hopes that the WMF's infallibility is greater than that of U.S. universities and colleges, which do not meet the standards of police & courts when investigating claims of sexual harassment and rape.

[Kumioko]

Well it looks like WayneRay (T-C-L) found his way over to Wikia. I just blocked him on one wiki but I am sure he has edited others as well.

[thekohser]

Well it looks like WayneRay (T-C-L) found his way over to Wikia. I just blocked him on one wiki but I am sure he has edited others as well.

I'm sure Wikia's ownership and investors will appreciate your volunteered security measures, thus alleviating them of paid staff hours that otherwise would have had to address the problem. Good work, Kumioko.

[Kumioko]

They already came back and asked me to provide links to the applicable discussions and I just ignored the email. I told them specifically that he was Community and WMF banned. If they are too lazy to go and look up his user name then I'm not going to worry about it.

[The Garbage Scow]

Looks to me like they may have missed one of his socks over on en-wiki.

Athrash (T-C-L)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... ockpuppets

[tarantino]

Wayne is found out two days ago on commons after making 163,000 contributions in the last six months as Photo Archives. No one has bothered to block him though.

[The Garbage Scow]

Wayne is found out two days ago on commons after making 163,000 contributions in the last six months as Photo Archives. No one has bothered to block him though.

They have requests backlogged to September.

[Ron Lybonly]

Wayne is found out two days ago on commons after making 163,000 contributions in the last six months as Photo Archives. No one has bothered to block him though.

I skimmed Photo Archives' uploads; there were <1000.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Spec ... o+Archives
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.p ... o+Archives

I didn't see anything troubling. There are about 500 page scans from old books; I spot checked several and didn't note any vintage erotica. The rest a mixed bag but on the whole much better than the Commons average. A few old college social life pictures and a handful from a small Atlanta parade left me thinking Commons isn't Flickr, but there were many historical black and white photos and scans of celebrity autographs.

Here's his contribution history:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.p ... &limit=500

As for troubling content, I just didn't see anything. Commons already has more than enough.

Commons discussion:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Comm ... _contribs)