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Cyrus Farivar and his Hoaxes

Unread post by Hersch » Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:46 am

Check it out! Eric Barbour! Please comment!
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Re: Cyrus Farivar and his Hoaxes

Unread post by Zoloft » Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:28 am

Hersch wrote:Check it out! Eric Barbour! Please comment!
I checked it out and read for errors. Found none.
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Re: Cyrus Farivar and his Hoaxes

Unread post by Zoloft » Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:00 am

EricBarbour wrote:Already posted on Slashdot.

http://slashdot.org/submission/4379759/ ... -biography
I up-voted it half-an-hour after.

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Re: Cyrus Farivar and his Hoaxes

Unread post by mac » Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:08 pm

Zoloft wrote:
Hersch wrote:Check it out! Eric Barbour! Please comment!
I checked it out and read for errors. Found none.
Love the clown theme.
It matches the circus like atmosphere there and it's a good example of Wikipedian revenge.
EricBarbour wrote:Already posted on Slashdot.

http://slashdot.org/submission/4379759/ ... -biography
Upvoted, FWIW.

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Re: Cyrus Farivar and his Hoaxes

Unread post by EricBarbour » Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:28 pm

Almost 2 days and no comments yet? As I suspected, no one gives a shit about this story. Seriously, what excuse is there for Farivar not to have a BLP? Is there ANY sane reason, other than "he was mean and he made fun of us"? Just because it happened 8-10 years ago doesn't make it "go away" or "invalid". How many other people who could pass notability requirements don't have biographies and people who shouldn't do?

Farivar mentions it right on the front page of his website. He's not hiding it either.

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Re: Cyrus Farivar and his Hoaxes

Unread post by Capsot » Fri May 01, 2015 5:03 pm

Hi everyone,
There's currently a page in the English wiki (and also in the Occitan one) and nobody seems to try to delete it right now.
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Re: Cyrus Farivar and his Hoaxes

Unread post by EricBarbour » Sat May 02, 2015 9:35 pm

Thanks Claudi.

Cyrus Farivar (T-H-L)

Well, well, well. Created on Thursday by a little-used sockpuppet called Alexgoldmark (T-C-L).

Once again, Wikipediocracy, despite being "that evil forum", still has clout over Wikipedia. Ha ha ha. Fools.

(Okay, dicks, now where's your "neutral" Denise Milani article?)

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Re: Cyrus Farivar and his Hoaxes

Unread post by Zoloft » Sat May 02, 2015 10:19 pm

EricBarbour wrote:Thanks Claudi.

Cyrus Farivar (T-H-L)

Well, well, well. Created on Thursday by a little-used sockpuppet called Alexgoldmark (T-C-L).

Once again, Wikipediocracy, despite being "that evil forum", still has clout over Wikipedia. Ha ha ha. Fools.

(Okay, dicks, now where's your "neutral" Denise Milani article?)
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Barbour, Eric (April 26, 2015). "Cyrus Farivar And His Hoaxes". Wikipediocracy.
Barbour, Eric (April 26, 2015). "Cyrus Farivar And His Hoaxes". Wikipediocracy
This will not stand for long, I suspect.

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Re: Cyrus Farivar and his Hoaxes

Unread post by mac » Sat May 02, 2015 11:49 pm

Zoloft wrote:
EricBarbour wrote:Thanks Claudi.

Cyrus Farivar (T-H-L)

Well, well, well. Created on Thursday by a little-used sockpuppet called Alexgoldmark (T-C-L).

Once again, Wikipediocracy, despite being "that evil forum", still has clout over Wikipedia. Ha ha ha. Fools.

(Okay, dicks, now where's your "neutral" Denise Milani article?)
References

Barbour, Eric (April 26, 2015). "Cyrus Farivar And His Hoaxes". Wikipediocracy.
Barbour, Eric (April 26, 2015). "Cyrus Farivar And His Hoaxes". Wikipediocracy
This will not stand for long, I suspect.
Fortunately, additional references have been added by Stanistani (T-C-L), and by one of those evil IP editors. :whistle:

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Re: Cyrus Farivar and his Hoaxes

Unread post by Poetlister » Sun May 03, 2015 9:50 am

Zoloft wrote:
References

Barbour, Eric (April 26, 2015). "Cyrus Farivar And His Hoaxes". Wikipediocracy.
Barbour, Eric (April 26, 2015). "Cyrus Farivar And His Hoaxes". Wikipediocracy
This will not stand for long, I suspect.
Still there as I write. I expect everyone knows by now that Eric is a reliable source.
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Re: Cyrus Farivar and his Hoaxes

Unread post by EricBarbour » Sun May 03, 2015 10:05 pm

Poetlister wrote:
Zoloft wrote:This will not stand for long, I suspect.
Still there as I write. I expect everyone knows by now that Eric is a reliable source.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit ... =660512108

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Re: Cyrus Farivar and his Hoaxes

Unread post by Zoloft » Mon May 04, 2015 12:54 am

EricBarbour wrote:
Poetlister wrote:
Zoloft wrote:This will not stand for long, I suspect.
Still there as I write. I expect everyone knows by now that Eric is a reliable source.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit ... =660512108
I wonder if this will be a stable version, or if if the article will get dragged to AfD again?

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Unread post by spartaz » Sat May 09, 2015 10:30 am

Or simply deleted?
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Unread post by HRIP7 » Sat May 09, 2015 2:04 pm

spartaz wrote:Or simply deleted?
What gave you that idea?

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Unread post by spartaz » Sat May 09, 2015 2:49 pm

Just a hunch...
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Unread post by Zoloft » Sat May 09, 2015 5:21 pm

Eh. He's probably better off without the article. BLPs are a convenient way to slander a person.

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Unread post by spartaz » Sat May 09, 2015 5:48 pm

Which is why I'm a bit of a BLP zealot. For barely marginal people they are magnets for any shit someone wants to throw at them and they won't be sufficiently patrolled to protect them from the crap.
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Unread post by EricBarbour » Sat May 09, 2015 11:48 pm

spartaz wrote:Which is why I'm a bit of a BLP zealot. For barely marginal people they are magnets for any shit someone wants to throw at them and they won't be sufficiently patrolled to protect them from the crap.
Then please do something about Michael Brutsch (T-H-L).

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Zoloft wrote:Eh. He's probably better off without the article. BLPs are a convenient way to slander a person.
True. Plus, this is more for the "Wikipedia weirdness" section of his blog. The incoherent delete reason just adds to the fun! :cuckoo:

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Unread post by DanMurphy » Sun May 10, 2015 1:18 am

The vast majority of Wikipedia's biographical articles are inappropriate. Must run into the tens of thousands. I was wondering how many articles are in their "living people" category; couldn't figure it out. Ah, over 709,000. Upgrading to "hundreds of thousands" being inappropriate.

But did run into a rather... Wikipedian category while on that page:Cat:Living people on the English Wikipedia who are dead on other Wikipedias. There are currently 34 articles so categorized.

There are 3,850 articles in Wikipedia's Possibly living people category,

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Unread post by spartaz » Sun May 10, 2015 8:10 am

EricBarbour wrote:
spartaz wrote:Which is why I'm a bit of a BLP zealot. For barely marginal people they are magnets for any shit someone wants to throw at them and they won't be sufficiently patrolled to protect them from the crap.
Then please do something about Michael Brutsch (T-H-L).
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Unread post by Vigilant » Sun May 10, 2015 3:27 pm

Why every BLP isn't under pending changes is beyond me.

To think that you really need random, anonymous people writing stuff about named persons in an online "encyclopedia" without doing even the most basic checking before taking it live is so fundamentally stupid that I feel myself losing IQ points just typing this out.
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Unread post by Wonderer » Sun May 10, 2015 9:15 pm

Why every BLP isn't under pending changes is beyond me.
It's one of those things that just makes too much sense. If you don't want pending changes for the whole site, just implement for articles in Category:Living people (T-H-L).

Or maybe they think it would get in the way of making sure certain people get hagiographies that don't mention their widely reported misdeeds, while other people still get the kind of baseless defamation the post-Seigenthaler incident policies were supposedly created to prevent.

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Unread post by Poetlister » Sun May 10, 2015 9:43 pm

Vigilant wrote:Why every BLP isn't under pending changes is beyond me.
Were this ever implemented, it would be interesting to watch people getting round it by putting BLP material in other articles such as ones about particular incidents, or the person's home town or employer.
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Unread post by thekohser » Sun May 10, 2015 10:08 pm

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Vigilant wrote:Why every BLP isn't under pending changes is beyond me.
Were this ever implemented, it would be interesting to watch people getting round it by putting BLP material in other articles such as ones about particular incidents, or the person's home town or employer.
I hope you don't believe that that's not already being done?
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Unread post by Johnny Au » Sun May 10, 2015 10:58 pm

Poetlister wrote:
Vigilant wrote:Why every BLP isn't under pending changes is beyond me.
Were this ever implemented, it would be interesting to watch people getting round it by putting BLP material in other articles such as ones about particular incidents, or the person's home town or employer.
...or the person's alma mater (or if the person is a student, then current educational institution) even.

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Unread post by Vigilant » Sun May 10, 2015 11:27 pm

It should be implemented tomorrow.

Who would disagree and why?
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Unread post by Poetlister » Mon May 11, 2015 7:13 pm

Vigilant wrote:It should be implemented tomorrow.

Who would disagree and why?
It would be a step in the right direction, but would be of limited use, for the reasons given in the last few posts and because anyone starting a new article might "easily forget" to mark it as a BLP.
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Unread post by Wonderer » Tue May 12, 2015 4:05 am

It would be a step in the right direction, but would be of limited use, for the reasons given in the last few posts and because anyone starting a new article might "easily forget" to mark it as a BLP.
Kind of like closing the gun show loophole for background checks? Something that is not a complete solution but needs to be done. We can just give up and say criminals will always find ways to get guns, just as we can give up and say BLP violators will always find ways to get around pending changes.

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Unread post by Hex » Thu May 28, 2015 3:23 pm

Heh.
00:54, 15 February 2007 Trialsanderrors (talk | contribs) deleted page Cyrus Farivar (Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 February 7)
Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 February 7 (T-H-L):
Gregory Kohs – relisted at AFD by closing admin. – GRBerry 18:31, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Cyrus Farivar – Deletion endorsed – trialsanderrors 00:45, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
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Unread post by thekohser » Thu May 28, 2015 5:26 pm

Hex wrote:Heh.
00:54, 15 February 2007 Trialsanderrors (talk | contribs) deleted page Cyrus Farivar (Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 February 7)
Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 February 7 (T-H-L):
Gregory Kohs – relisted at AFD by closing admin. – GRBerry 18:31, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Cyrus Farivar – Deletion endorsed – trialsanderrors 00:45, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
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