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Unread post by Zoloft » Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:15 pm

EricBarbour wrote:We discuss prospective blog posts in a private area, because sometimes embarrassing things are brought up. And found out recently that one of the longtime participants was hiding his WP identity (arbitrator!). Long story short, it made some people very unhappy.
Setting the fox among the chickens, are we?

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We don't do the sort of thing Wikipedia does with IRC and secret Arbcom proceedings.

We have three sorts of hidden places:
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  2. an area where we prepare blog posts in a collaborative fashion. We also discuss there any sort of tactic we want to pursue to further our goals. Almost all of that stuff eventually becomes public. It's where we began the work on exposing Qworty, for example.
  3. temporary subforums known as working areas, where outside people (not members, ordinarily) meet with us to exchange information on a confidential basis. These forums are deleted or emptied after use. These are primarily used for people who are at risk of stalking or real-life harassment.
We should put this up in the public 'what we're all about' area, along with all those BBCode guides I keep meaning to write.

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Unread post by Tippi Hadron » Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:28 pm

EricBarbour wrote:We discuss prospective blog posts in a private area, because sometimes embarrassing things are brought up. And found out recently that one of the longtime participants was hiding his WP identity (arbitrator!). Long story short, it made some people very unhappy.
It also made some people very happy! :evilgrin:

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Unread post by Triptych » Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:02 am

EricBarbour wrote:We discuss prospective blog posts in a private area, because sometimes embarrassing things are brought up. And found out recently that one of the longtime participants was hiding his WP identity (arbitrator!). Long story short, it made some people very unhappy.
Ah, well if he didn't misrepresent himself that would be okay for the forum generally wouldn't it? There's no special disclosure requirement for arbs is there? I guess it depends on the characteristics of this private blog post discussion area, and how access to that is managed. If he'd wheedled his way in there to spy on the inner circle and wasn't actually working on a blog post, that would be bad.
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Unread post by Tippi Hadron » Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:21 am

Triptych wrote:
EricBarbour wrote:We discuss prospective blog posts in a private area, because sometimes embarrassing things are brought up. And found out recently that one of the longtime participants was hiding his WP identity (arbitrator!). Long story short, it made some people very unhappy.
Ah, well if he didn't misrepresent himself that would be okay for the forum generally wouldn't it? There's no special disclosure requirement for arbs is there? I guess it depends on the characteristics of this private blog post discussion area, and how access to that is managed. If he'd wheedled his way in there to spy on the inner circle and wasn't actually working on a blog post, that would be bad.
He did not wheedle his way in. He was chosen.

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Unread post by Sweet Revenge » Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:42 am

Tippi Hadron wrote:
Triptych wrote:
EricBarbour wrote:We discuss prospective blog posts in a private area, because sometimes embarrassing things are brought up. And found out recently that one of the longtime participants was hiding his WP identity (arbitrator!). Long story short, it made some people very unhappy.
Ah, well if he didn't misrepresent himself that would be okay for the forum generally wouldn't it? There's no special disclosure requirement for arbs is there? I guess it depends on the characteristics of this private blog post discussion area, and how access to that is managed. If he'd wheedled his way in there to spy on the inner circle and wasn't actually working on a blog post, that would be bad.
He did not wheedle his way in. He was chosen.
I for one would love to read a blog post about this incident...

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Unread post by enwikibadscience » Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:50 am

Sweet Revenge wrote:
Tippi Hadron wrote:
Triptych wrote:
EricBarbour wrote:We discuss prospective blog posts in a private area, because sometimes embarrassing things are brought up. And found out recently that one of the longtime participants was hiding his WP identity (arbitrator!). Long story short, it made some people very unhappy.
Ah, well if he didn't misrepresent himself that would be okay for the forum generally wouldn't it? There's no special disclosure requirement for arbs is there? I guess it depends on the characteristics of this private blog post discussion area, and how access to that is managed. If he'd wheedled his way in there to spy on the inner circle and wasn't actually working on a blog post, that would be bad.
He did not wheedle his way in. He was chosen.
I for one would love to read a blog post about this incident...
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Unread post by SB_Johnny » Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:18 am

We seem to have gotten ourselves into a spot where we don't say what we know, but certain people hint at it just to let people know that they know something that other people don't know. Smells like Teen Wikipedia.

Whatev. This is :offtopic: anyways. Anyone taking bets on the mighty Eagles trouncing those Cowboys?
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Unread post by Zoloft » Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:36 am

SB_Johnny wrote:We seem to have gotten ourselves into a spot where we don't say what we know, but certain people hint at it just to let people know that they know something that other people don't know. Smells like Teen Wikipedia.

Whatev. This is :offtopic: anyways. Anyone taking bets on the mighty Eagles trouncing those Cowboys?
The Eagles are 7 point favorites. The Over/Under is 52.5.

I've taken $20 against.

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Unread post by Hex » Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:43 pm

greybeard wrote:Something in the juxtapostion of this most recent exchange and the statistics above about California put me in mind of this old Firesign Theatre sketch...
"Injuns! Draw the wagons up into a circle!" "Why do you always do that?" "We get better reception that way."

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Unread post by thekohser » Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:58 pm

Zoloft wrote:The Eagles are 7 point favorites. The Over/Under is 52.5.

I've taken $20 against.
Taking the Cowboys and the points, and the under would have been winning bets. Where did you place your bet, Zoloft?
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Unread post by Zoloft » Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:00 am

thekohser wrote:
Zoloft wrote:The Eagles are 7 point favorites. The Over/Under is 52.5.

I've taken $20 against.
Taking the Cowboys and the points, and the under would have been winning bets. Where did you place your bet, Zoloft?
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Unread post by NotNormal » Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:18 am

I think I can clear this one up for you. Joseph Chinnock is the one who had the domain wikipediaadministrators.com. He either owned it or ran it. You can see this (https://plus.google.com/+RobJackson/posts/ESDJkwuibZ3) Google+ post from a person who was spammed by his claim of getting people on Wikipedia. The phone number in the add is Mr. Chinnock's phone number. So.......the strange and weird dead ends that you are trying to come up with are more than likely leading to fake profiles set up by him. I have inside information that I will not disclose here, but I will tell you that he is the one behind the site. And no, he doesn't have 3 administrators on staff. This is a dead end for finding admins being paid to edit Wikipedia.

Also, his email is jcboulder@XXXXX.com (https://www.blogger.com/profile/12991058384124073207). You can see that he is so good at what he does that he even managed to write a page on himself in Simple Wikipedia. It was deleted, of course (http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jcboulder). I would say that the complaints about him on RipOffReport are likely true so his claim about having admins on staff is as good of a con as any.
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Unread post by NotNormal » Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:21 am

Oh yeah, forgot to weigh in on what is really important here...........I didn't think the Eagles were still considered a professional team. I guess I can be proven wrong every now and then.
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Unread post by NotNormal » Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:38 am

I guess the "inside information" is not on the "outside." http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Michael-W ... -I-1117021 (not worried about clicks as it is going to be on page 1 anyway. ROR is like Wikipedia as far as page rank).

This guy is an idiot. Fake review from a fake name that links right back to his name and phone number. Can't wait for this to play out in court.
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Unread post by NotNormal » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:31 pm

Looks like Mr. Chinnock is back

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Chinnock

Wondering if I should delete the article or add all the negative (20 plus) complaints from RipOffReport and his most recent scam dealing with BitCoins (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=669614.0).
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Unread post by JCM » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:45 pm

I wouldn't put it past someone who knows Fred, and maybe seen the contributions of CorporateM (T-C-L), to think that they might have a chance of doing the same thing. But CorporateM is not an admin, and I seriously doubt that Fred, even with a perhaps diminished reputation of late, is likely to damage it further in such a way.

And, yes, for all I know, it is possible that Amy might have at some time talked about wikipedia with Fred and come up with the bright idea that she could edit for pay from him, maybe even with some sort of encouragement from Fred. Maybe. But I wouldn't bet on that.

And, Mr. Chinnock, thank you for your contributions. I can all too easily believe that what you have said may well be very well founded in fact, and it takes guts to post comments critical of a family member on a site which can be seen by so many people.

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Unread post by EricBarbour » Sun Feb 01, 2015 3:19 am

NotNormal wrote:Looks like Mr. Chinnock is back

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Chinnock

Wondering if I should delete the article or add all the negative (20 plus) complaints from RipOffReport and his most recent scam dealing with BitCoins (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=669614.0).
Plus, he's an absolute shit Wikipedia editor. Hold it against him (although admittedly he won't care).

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Unread post by eagle » Sun Feb 01, 2015 8:26 pm

thekohser wrote:
Zoloft wrote:The Eagles are 7 point favorites. The Over/Under is 52.5.

I've taken $20 against.
Taking the Cowboys and the points, and the under would have been winning bets. Where did you place your bet, Zoloft?
NotNormal wrote:Oh yeah, forgot to weigh in on what is really important here...........I didn't think the Eagles were still considered a professional team. I guess I can be proven wrong every now and then.
Could someone temporarily add an "s" to my user name please until 11 p.m. tonight?

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Unread post by Zoloft » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:26 pm

Eagles wrote:
thekohser wrote:
Zoloft wrote:The Eagles are 7 point favorites. The Over/Under is 52.5.

I've taken $20 against.
Taking the Cowboys and the points, and the under would have been winning bets. Where did you place your bet, Zoloft?
NotNormal wrote:Oh yeah, forgot to weigh in on what is really important here...........I didn't think the Eagles were still considered a professional team. I guess I can be proven wrong every now and then.
Could someone temporarily add an "s" to my user name please until 11 p.m. tonight?
Done. Don't go on a posting spree, please.
Also, remember your logon name is now 'Eagles' (sans quotes).

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