Fæ wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

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Re: Fæ wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by WikiWatcher » Sat Nov 06, 2021 2:10 pm

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_LGBT+/2021

",,, the Wikimedia Foundation is unable to provide staff support, but has offered finacial support to our organization so that we can hire staff for our membership. We understand that a good first ask for money is somewhere around US$100,000 for the first year."

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Re: Fæ wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by Giraffe Stapler » Sat Nov 06, 2021 2:26 pm

I found this item in the linked page interesting:
In March 2021 the commercial company NordVPN gave Wikimedia LGBT+ a gift of 10 subscriptions to its VPN service. Fae negotiated this gift. The context was Wikimedia LGBT+ contributors asking for suggestions on how to increase their privacy and security due to danger related to editing in the LGBT+ space. There is no broadly recommended Wikimedia guide for privacy, but this VPN offer seemed useful to explore.

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Re: Fæ wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by Vigilant » Sat Nov 06, 2021 2:56 pm

Check the server logs...
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Re: Fæ wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by Jim » Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:25 pm

Alternatively, just check Ashley's record.

If there's even a faint sniff of a gravy train in the neighbourhood, that frantic face you see, pathetically and expectantly chasing and slobbering after it, will be his.

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Unread post by Vigilant » Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:33 pm

I wonder what the incoming CEO has been told about Ashley.
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Re: Fæ wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by Jim » Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:37 pm

Vigilant wrote:
Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:33 pm
I wonder what the incoming CEO has been told about Ashley.
Realistically, and hopefully, not much beyond "Oh, and you'll get incessantly bugged by spongeing dickheads like this - just ignore them", with enough historical links to this defining and prime example to effectively illustrate the phenomenon.
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Unread post by Vigilant » Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:40 pm

And don't give him any used laptops.

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Unread post by Jim » Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:44 pm

I edited while you were replying - but yeah, exactly that.
And don't give him any used laptops.
I was thinking "even the time of day" or "any acknowledgement at all", but it's all good.

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Unread post by Vigilant » Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:50 pm

And don't let him weasel his way back in to any of the committees or working groups or edit-a-thons, etc.

Ashley is the wikipedia equivalent of a Botfly (T-H-L).
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Re: Fæ wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by Silent Editor » Sun Nov 07, 2021 4:31 am

Fortunately for Wikimedia LGBT+ user group, new user Scuto has stepped in to take on some of the administrative tasks previously undertaken by Fae.

In fact, it seems Scuto's only contributions are to the Wikimedia LGBT+ user group. Not suspicious at all.

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Unread post by Smiley » Sun Nov 07, 2021 4:51 am

Silent Editor wrote:
Sun Nov 07, 2021 4:31 am
Scuto
Could be an intern, but keep an eye on them. If they ever upload 107 files to commons then we'll know for sure.

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Unread post by Vigilant » Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:10 am

Silent Editor wrote:
Sun Nov 07, 2021 4:31 am
Fortunately for Wikimedia LGBT+ user group, new user Scuto has stepped in to take on some of the administrative tasks previously undertaken by Fae.

In fact, it seems Scuto's only contributions are to the Wikimedia LGBT+ user group. Not suspicious at all.
There aren't very many edits, but that sounds very much like our little grifter's prose.
Scuto is a Roman infantry shield.
Noun
scūtum (genitive scūtī) (neut.)

a shield, especially the scutum, the large oblong wooden shield carried by the Roman infantry
(by metonymy) shield-bearing soldiers
(figuratively) a defense, protection, shelter
Smells like teen spirit Ashley.
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Re: Fæ wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by Smiley » Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:54 am

faewik wrote:5 days after reporting, bike still dumped at Sexby garden in #PeckhamRye


@limebike failed to remove this hazard for disabled pedestrians

Fines ($500?) don't seem to be enforced, neither does your scheme for removing dumped bikes that are not at the roadside

https://twitter.com/Faewik/status/1457010964969238528

Yesterday I saw a man laying unconscious in the street... I watched for several hours, and do you know, not a single person offered to help? This country!

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Unread post by Vigilant » Sun Nov 07, 2021 7:04 pm

lol

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Unread post by Vigilant » Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:00 pm

Mailing list announcement
wiki lgbt <--- email account for a group? Is that a new thing?

5 Nov 2021 7:23 p.m.

Hi,

The WMLGBT+ User Group report for the past year has been published on
Meta, feedback is welcome on the talk page:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_LGBT+/2021

Highlights:
* 3 day bilingual "working days" event focused on capacity building
and improved support for volunteers
* Engaging with global community initiatives in strategy and code of
conduct as a stakeholder for LGBTQ volunteers
* Creation of a user group governance committee
* Increased international and multilingual participation using
Telegram, our most popular forum

To join in with our WMLGBT+ community, or have a friendly chat with
fellow LGBTQ volunteers in our "safe space" groups on Telegram, see
our communications page:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimed ... unications

The WMLGBT+ team.
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Wikimedia LGBT+ User Group
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_LGBT
Governance committee membership is typically public knowledge...

Governance page

Am I missing the board membership somewhere?
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Unread post by Vigilant » Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:11 pm

Maybe this is it.
Interim committee discussion

On the formation of the committee and general schedule of activity, once formed the committee should announce its purpose to the wider community. Participants volunteered for the committee in various different capacities. No one was opposed in any of these roles.

Note: Committee name may be changed in future.
Committee

Owen Blacker (timezone Europe/London; lang: en-N fr-3 es-2 de-2 cy-2) — especially around financial governance.
Owen needs to send out an invite to other folx to join from the mailing list
John Samuel (timezone: Europe/Paris; lang: en-N, ml-N, fr-4, hi-4)
Pepe Robles (timezone: America/Argentina; lang: es-N, en)
Paulo (timezone Europe/Lisbon; lang: pt-N, en) — bylaws
Fæ (timezone Europe/London; lang: en-N)
Rajeeb (timezone: UTC+5:30 hours; lang: bn-N, hi-4, en)

Found it, here we go...
Current membership
At the June meeting of the WMLGBT+ User Group, the initial membership of the governance committee was confirmed as , Jeffrey Keefer, RachelWex and Owen Blacker. This carries over the experience of the financial team providing oversight for Queering Wikipedia 2021.
Never change, you little grifter.

Look at what they are spending money on...

How it looks from the outside
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Re: Fæ wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by Giraffe Stapler » Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:21 pm

Vigilant wrote:
Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:00 pm
Governance committee membership is typically public knowledge...

Governance page

Am I missing the board membership somewhere?
I suspect the answer lies in the paragraph removed by Scuto:
Wikimedia LGBT+ is unusual as compared to many other Wikimedia community organizations in that we routinely receive reports that trolls use our membership lists to identify targets for harassment. People who participate in LGBT+ programs are subject to attacks online. Our community group has reported these events to the Wikimedia Foundation on numerous occasions for many years, and the understanding seems to be that the Wikimedia Foundation is unable to provide staff support, but has offered finacial support to our organization so that we can hire staff for our membership. We understand that a good first ask for money is somewhere around US$100,000 for the first year.
They can't reveal that information without risking online harassment. Or say who attended meetings. And they need a group email. This has nothing at all to do with Fae, it's for everyone's safety and personal security. Of course, they have a member list so one has to wonder if there's something else going on.

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Re: Fæ wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by Beeblebrox » Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:25 pm

Giraffe Stapler wrote:
Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:21 pm
one has to wonder if there's something else going on.
ya think?
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Re: Fæ wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

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Giraffe Stapler wrote:
Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:21 pm
They can't reveal that information without risking online harassment. Or say who attended meetings. And they need a group email. This has nothing at all to do with Fae, it's for everyone's safety and personal security. Of course, they have a member list so one has to wonder if there's something else going on.
I don't mean to risk starting up this argument again, but the fact is, if they're going to define "harassment" to mean things like using "he" instead of "they" in a talk-page entry, they're going to need a lot more than $100,000 to protect themselves from that.

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Re: Fæ wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by Smiley » Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:39 pm

Vigilant wrote:
Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:11 pm
Never change, you little grifter.

Look at what they are spending money on...
Technical facilitation | $1,213.53
Fae explains: Avoiding Checkusers 101
Safe space reporting support training | $121.35
Owen Blacker reveals how to smear your opponents as doxxing queerphobes
Note taking and analysis | $1,456.24
Fae will be filming everything with a spycam and will watch the vids later
Online collaboration tools | $606.77
Another new laptop for Fae!
Volunteer honoraria | $1,213.53
That'll cover Fae's next trip to the Greek islands
Contingency budget | $1,213.53
Anyone else want a new laptop?
Networking/“fun” event budget | $606.77
Nope. Not even going to go there...

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Re: Fæ wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by AndyTheGrump » Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:32 pm

Smiley wrote:
Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:39 pm
Networking/“fun” event budget | $606.77
Nope. Not even going to go there...
Oddly specific. Are they expecting 47 people to attend, and to provide $12.91 of 'fun' to each?

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Re: Fæ wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by Smiley » Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:48 pm

The reincarnation of Srinivasa Ramanujan wrote:
Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:32 pm
Smiley wrote:
Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:39 pm
Networking/“fun” event budget | $606.77
Oddly specific. Are they expecting 47 people to attend, and to provide $12.91 of 'fun' to each?
:blink:

Did you factorize that yourself?

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Unread post by AndyTheGrump » Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:05 pm

Nope. Evil mega-corp did it for me.

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Re: Fæ wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by lonza leggiera » Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:41 pm

AndyTheGrump wrote:
Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:32 pm
Smiley wrote:
Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:39 pm
Networking/“fun” event budget | $606.77
Oddly specific. Are they expecting 47 people to attend, and to provide $12.91 of 'fun' to each?
Not only that, but we have exactly the same oddly specific figure for:
QW2021 budget wrote: Online collaboration tools | $606.77
(Hint: How many Euros does this amount to at €1 = US$1.21354)
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Re: Fæ wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by tarantino » Mon Nov 08, 2021 11:02 pm

606.77 is the molecular weight of Fulvestrant, which is a competitive estrogen receptor antagonist that is used to inhibit the growth of breast cancer cells. This probably doesn't have anything to do with it.

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Re: Fæ wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by AndyTheGrump » Mon Nov 08, 2021 11:12 pm

tarantino wrote:
Mon Nov 08, 2021 11:02 pm
606.77 is the molecular weight of Fulvestrant, which is a competitive estrogen receptor antagonist that is used to inhibit the growth of breast cancer cells. This probably doesn't have anything to do with it.
Toyota Mirror Assembly: $606.77 link

Most likely an exchange rate conversion though, like lonza leggiera says.

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Unread post by Vigilant » Mon Nov 08, 2021 11:42 pm

Hello, John. John, hello. You're the one soul I would come up here to collect myself.

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Unread post by Vigilant » Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:35 am

Someone needs to run a CU check on https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special ... ions/Scuto

I've got a dollar says there's a hit with a notorious commons uploader.
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Unread post by owl be it » Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:57 am

Not just any commons uploader -- I'll do you one better and bet that it's Fae.
The artist formerly known as Yeet Bae...

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Re: Fæ wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by Giraffe Stapler » Fri Nov 12, 2021 4:34 pm

But Scuto is obviously Hispanic.

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Re: Fæ wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by WikiWatcher » Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:27 am

No non-Hispanic person would ever use Spanish words in edit summaries. It's literally inconceivable.

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Re: Fæ wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by Jim » Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:46 am

Giraffe Stapler wrote:
Fri Nov 12, 2021 4:34 pm
owl be it wrote:
Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:57 am
Vigilant wrote:
Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:35 am
Someone needs to run a CU check on https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special ... ions/Scuto
I've got a dollar says there's a hit with a notorious commons uploader.
Not just any commons uploader -- I'll do you one better and bet that it's Fae.
But Scuto is obviously Hispanic.
Bah. Hispanophobe.

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Unread post by Vigilant » Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:16 pm

Hello, John. John, hello. You're the one soul I would come up here to collect myself.

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Unread post by DanMurphy » Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:11 am

I am quite certain I have never interacted with or commented about Ashley on the tweeters. Nevertheless....
(foephobe!)
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Unread post by Vigilant » Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:19 am

DanMurphy wrote:
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I am quite certain I have never interacted with or commented about Ashley on the tweeters. Nevertheless....
(foephobe!)
My apologies.

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Re: Fæ wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by Smiley » Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:27 am

Next person to crack a Fae joke gets chained to Boy George's radiator for a week.


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*sigh*
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Re: Fæ wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by Midsize Jake » Wed Nov 24, 2021 4:48 am

I'm just concerned about what an unvaxxed-sperm mining operation might look like.

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Midsize Jake wrote:
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I'm just concerned about what an unvaxxed-sperm mining operation might look like.
Hmmmm....

Nothing yet.
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Unread post by Moral Hazard » Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:46 am

Allow the boy his Faekake dreams
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Re: Fæ wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

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Moral Hazard wrote:
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Allow the boy his Faekake dreams
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Re: Fæ wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by Silent Editor » Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:56 am

Scuto's knowledge of Fae's areas of concern seems to predate the registration of the account. Hmmm.

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Re: Fæ wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by Smiley » Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:07 am

Scuto wrote:... bad faith personal attacks as "activists" rather than fellow volunteers who happen to be LGBTQ
Fae is a volunteer who happens to be LGBTQ in the same way that the leader of ISIS is a volunteer who happens to be a Muslim.

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Unread post by Beeblebrox » Thu Nov 25, 2021 8:06 pm

As long as the account stays over at Meta, I doubt anyone will do anything about it. I think the facade would collapse rather quickly if Scuto started editing en.wp or commons.
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Unread post by Vigilant » Thu Nov 25, 2021 8:10 pm

Wasn't Ashley required to use only one account per the ARBCOM decision?
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Unread post by Beeblebrox » Thu Nov 25, 2021 8:19 pm

Vigilant wrote:
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Wasn't Ashley required to use only one account per the ARBCOM decision?
Can't even do a rename without permission from the committee. The wording is a little clunky but the intent is clear:

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Fæ is hereby limited to one account, and expressly denied the option of a fresh WP:CLEANSTART. Should Fæ wish to change the name of the one account he is allowed to use, he must receive prior permission from the Arbitration Committee before editing under any other username. Fæ must provide a list of all accounts they have controlled to the Committee, with any objections to making the accounts publicly listed. The Committee will then advise Fæ of whether they will need to list the objected to account(s) publicly.

Passed 10 to 1 at 2:23 pm, 21 July 2012, Saturday (9 years, 4 months, 8 days ago) (UTC−8)
Of course the current indef block is also more than a sufficient reason why they can't operate another account on en.wp.
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Re: Fæ wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by WikiWatcher » Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:44 pm

this week's Wikimedia LBGT user group meeting - attendance, 3.

No mention of the $100,000...

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimed ... 2021-12-07

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Re: Fæ wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by Silent Editor » Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:39 pm

Mysterious attendee with the initial A might be interested in becoming Programmes Director, Global Diversity, Equity & Inclusion , though.

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Re: Fæ wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by Beeblebrox » Fri Dec 10, 2021 1:49 am

:pigsfly: That's hilarious. I know the WMF makes some dumb decisions sometimes but they aren't that particular brand of stupid.
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Re: Fæ wants a taste of that sweet, sweet WMF money

Unread post by Moral Hazard » Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:19 am

Hiring Fae would be exp(The Wikipedia Adventure (T-H-L)) stupid.
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