Wikipediocracy

Devouard became active on Wikipedia when she was a housewife and taking care of two children.[5][unreliable source?][verification needed] She joined the board of Wikimedia Foundation in June 2004 and was a founder of Wikimedia France in October 2004. She has served on the Advisory Board of the Foundation since July 2008.

Co-founder of Wikimedia France in 2004, she is vice-chair of its board as of 2011 until December 2012.[6]

At times, she has disagreed with the notion of "verifiability, not truth" as the basis for building consensus via collaboration.[7][unreliable source?]

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As of 2008, she lived in the village of Malintrat, near the city of Clermont-Ferrand in France.[citation needed]

Kelly Martin wrote:There is no credible reason why Florence ought to have a biography on Wikipedia. She is fundamentally not a notable person.

Poetlister wrote:It is claimed that she is a Chevalier of the Ordre national du Mérite. If so, that ought to be grounds for notability. However, I have not found a reliable source to confirm this.

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Décret du 16 mai 2008 portant promotion et nomination

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Par décret du Président de la République en date du 16 mai 2008, pris sur le rapport du Premier ministre et des ministres et visé pour son exécution par le chancelier de l'ordre national du Mérite, vu les déclarations du conseil de l'ordre portant que les présentes promotions et nominations sont faites en conformité des lois, décrets et règlements en vigueur, sont promus ou nommés, pour prendre rang de la date de la remise réglementaire de l'insigne :

CHANCELLERIE DE L'ORDRE NATIONAL DU MÉRITE

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Au grade de chevalier

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Mme Devouard, née Nibart (Florence, Jacqueline, Sylvie), présidente d'une fondation mondiale ; 15 ans d'activités professionnelles.

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thekohser wrote:Way to withdraw that nomination, Tim. That's something that Jimbo's done a couple of times, too. Following in the footsteps of a hero, I suppose?

Randy from Boise wrote:

thekohser wrote:Way to withdraw that nomination, Tim. That's something that Jimbo's done a couple of times, too. Following in the footsteps of a hero, I suppose?

That's how AfD runs. If one accidentally puts up a Speedy Keep or really blows it on a clear GNG pass, one withdraws the nomination.

thekohser wrote:

Randy from Boise wrote:

thekohser wrote:Way to withdraw that nomination, Tim. That's something that Jimbo's done a couple of times, too. Following in the footsteps of a hero, I suppose?

That's how AfD runs. If one accidentally puts up a Speedy Keep or really blows it on a clear GNG pass, one withdraws the nomination.

Too bad it doesn't run on careful fact-checking aforethought.

thekohser wrote:Tim knows I'm just messin' with him. I owe him $10, anyway, so he's clearly smarter than me.

Randy from Boise wrote:

thekohser wrote:Way to withdraw that nomination, Tim. That's something that Jimbo's done a couple of times, too. Following in the footsteps of a hero, I suppose?

That's how AfD runs. If one accidentally puts up a Speedy Keep or really blows it on a clear GNG pass, one withdraws the nomination.

RfB

The Joy wrote:

Randy from Boise wrote:

thekohser wrote:Way to withdraw that nomination, Tim. That's something that Jimbo's done a couple of times, too. Following in the footsteps of a hero, I suppose?

That's how AfD runs. If one accidentally puts up a Speedy Keep or really blows it on a clear GNG pass, one withdraws the nomination.

RfB

But withdrawing the nomination does not mean the discussion stops though, right? It's still possible it will be deleted in a week.

The result was withdrawn. Carrite withdrew this nomination due to Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Any_biography providing rationale for inclusion. (non-admin closure) Rcsprinter123 (indicate) 10:56, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

* Leave it up to Florence, as we did for Kevin. We extend this favour to Wikipedians with marginal notability. (Not marginally notable non-Wikipedians, though. We take care of our own.) --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 00:02, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

* Wait, what? If she is notable, then she is notable. Giving a "Wikipedian" special favors when it comes to notability and not others speaks wonders for the "integrity" of Wikipedia. --CNMall41 (talk) 00:07, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

* I take the opposite view. If the subject is marginally notable (whether or not they're a Wikipedia insider) we should take into account their feelings on the matter. But yes, we should be consistent. If we extend this courtesy to insiders, we should treat non-Wikipedians with the same level of respect. --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 00:16, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

* Of course. I see no reason "not" to take the opinion into consideration, but I do not feel that they get to decide their own inclusion, especially when they are a Wikipedian. This is only going to cause negativity for Wikipedia which already comes under fire for its editing issues. --CNMall41 (talk) 00:23, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

* Comment - It's a really horrible idea to let WP content (or lack thereof) be controlled by the subjects themselves. There should be a brick wall between the whims of subjects and the actual content of the encyclopedia. Anthony and I have disagreed on this vehemently for a long time and will continue to disagree vehemently on this. We are not here for "courtesy content for marginally notable people." Notable is notable. Non-notable is non-notable. Now somebody needs to shut this sucker down, the nomination is withdrawn. Carrite (talk) 07:04, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Randy from Boise wrote:

The Joy wrote:

Randy from Boise wrote:

thekohser wrote:Way to withdraw that nomination, Tim. That's something that Jimbo's done a couple of times, too. Following in the footsteps of a hero, I suppose?

That's how AfD runs. If one accidentally puts up a Speedy Keep or really blows it on a clear GNG pass, one withdraws the nomination.

RfB

But withdrawing the nomination does not mean the discussion stops though, right? It's still possible it will be deleted in a week.

No, it will be kept. Discussion continues until someone shuts it down but it usually happens pretty fast after a withdrawal of a nomination.

RfB

Carrite wrote: * Comment - It's a really horrible idea to let WP content (or lack thereof) be controlled by the subjects themselves. There should be a brick wall between the whims of subjects and the actual content of the encyclopedia. Anthony and I have disagreed on this vehemently for a long time and will continue to disagree vehemently on this. We are not here for "courtesy content for marginally notable people." Notable is notable. Non-notable is non-notable. Now somebody needs to shut this sucker down, the nomination is withdrawn. Carrite (talk) 07:04, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Only the Sith deal in absolutes

Vigilant wrote:

Carrite wrote: * Comment - It's a really horrible idea to let WP content (or lack thereof) be controlled by the subjects themselves. There should be a brick wall between the whims of subjects and the actual content of the encyclopedia. Anthony and I have disagreed on this vehemently for a long time and will continue to disagree vehemently on this. We are not here for "courtesy content for marginally notable people." Notable is notable. Non-notable is non-notable. Now somebody needs to shut this sucker down, the nomination is withdrawn. Carrite (talk) 07:04, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Only the Sith deal in absolutes

The Joy wrote:

Randy from Boise wrote:

The Joy wrote:

Randy from Boise wrote:

thekohser wrote:Way to withdraw that nomination, Tim. That's something that Jimbo's done a couple of times, too. Following in the footsteps of a hero, I suppose?

That's how AfD runs. If one accidentally puts up a Speedy Keep or really blows it on a clear GNG pass, one withdraws the nomination.

RfB

But withdrawing the nomination does not mean the discussion stops though, right? It's still possible it will be deleted in a week.

No, it will be kept. Discussion continues until someone shuts it down but it usually happens pretty fast after a withdrawal of a nomination.

RfB

I thought the rule was that as long as there was one arguing "Delete," the discussion continues until it reaches the deadline and an involved administrator weighs the arguments?

Randy from Boise wrote:

Vigilant wrote:

Carrite wrote: * Comment - It's a really horrible idea to let WP content (or lack thereof) be controlled by the subjects themselves. There should be a brick wall between the whims of subjects and the actual content of the encyclopedia. Anthony and I have disagreed on this vehemently for a long time and will continue to disagree vehemently on this. We are not here for "courtesy content for marginally notable people." Notable is notable. Non-notable is non-notable. Now somebody needs to shut this sucker down, the nomination is withdrawn. Carrite (talk) 07:04, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Only the Sith deal in absolutes

You'd think a software guy like you could appreciate the notion of 0 and 1.

RfB

The Joy wrote:I thought the rule was that as long as there was one arguing "Delete," the discussion continues until it reaches the deadline and an involved administrator weighs the arguments?

Randy from Boise wrote:

Vigilant wrote:

Carrite wrote: * Comment - It's a really horrible idea to let WP content (or lack thereof) be controlled by the subjects themselves. There should be a brick wall between the whims of subjects and the actual content of the encyclopedia. Anthony and I have disagreed on this vehemently for a long time and will continue to disagree vehemently on this. We are not here for "courtesy content for marginally notable people." Notable is notable. Non-notable is non-notable. Now somebody needs to shut this sucker down, the nomination is withdrawn. Carrite (talk) 07:04, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Only the Sith deal in absolutes

You'd think a software guy like you could appreciate the notion of 0 and 1.

RfB

Anthonyhcole wrote:

Randy from Boise wrote:You'd think a software guy like you could appreciate the notion of 0 and 1.

RfB

There are a few decimals between 0 and 1. In a nutshell, the problem with Wikipedia is the folk who only see 1 and not 1, black and white. There is a whole world of uncertainty out there that you're missing out on, Randy.