Some very strange things coming out of Sue Gardner's mouth these days.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... ue_Gardner
Does that mean that you can call someone's arguments "faggot arguments" or "nigger arguments" and be within the realm of acceptable discourse?Editors who labeled other people's comments as transphobic are not admonished
7) Editors whose comments were labeled as transphobic may disagree with that labeling and be personally offended by it. However, use of the word transphobic to describe another editor’s arguments or views does not constitute a personal attack, and is within the realm of acceptable discourse.
Seems a strange sort of distinction without a difference to call someone's arguments a foul name and not have that be actionable.
When is she leaving again?
I have no idea what this person is actually trying to convey.
I understand many of the words and understand the overall meaning, but this text eludes rational parsing.DHeyward, if you are objecting to terfs, among other people, being called transphobic, some terfs, among other people, have earned that label, by claiming that "the practice of transsexualism should be morally mandated out of existance," "all transsexuals **** women's bodies," or by outing trans women, or the like. I know someone who was doxxed, and accused of violating wbw space at Michfest, when she had not even attended Michfest. Although the "cotton ceiling" was and is a problematic term, afaik a certain notorious serial doxxer is misrepresenting it. And "autogynephilia" is a fringe theory. Ananiujitha (talk) 11:46, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
The point is that in the context of a Wikipedia discussion on a talk page, nobody can "earn" an insult. The proper remedy for poor behavior is not an insult based on poor behavior but the proper administrative sanctions based on poor behavior. There are policies for how to deal with someone who behaving in a transphobic or racist or sexist manner, but "calling out" someone that "earned it" is not among them.CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 22:38, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
But if someone demonstrates actual transphobia, by even the narrowest definition of the term, then calling them transphobic is not an insult. It's a description, and that's what I meant by saying that some had earned that [description]. DHeyward was complaining about terfs, off-wiki, being called transphobic, so I was pointing out that some of them are transphobic. No two ways about it. Ananiujitha (talk) 22:56, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
Urban dictionary to the rescue
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=TERFs