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Unread post by Vigilant » Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:09 pm

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Unread post by Michaeldsuarez » Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:01 pm

https://en.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=Wikiversity:Colloquium&diff=1433108&oldid=1433091
Dave knows almost nothing about dispute resolution procedures on a wiki. I've been astonished to find that, but it's not terribly surprising, given his history. His high activity in site maintenance would not teach him this. Wikiversity mostly avoids conflict, so one may not gain much experience in this here. Dave started enwiki and Wikiversity activity when the wiki was relatively dead, he started editing in 2012. His enwiki activity remains very thin. Many users there never see ANI, or read ArbCom cases. Consider how Dave became a permanent custodian, who made that happen? (If you don't know, ask!) I work outside the rules, but in line with anticipation of community consensus, which is the ''real rule.'' Someone constrained by "the rules" would not have been able to do what I did.

Wikis delegate, not authority, but power. Campus cops may have guns. What authority do they have? -- only ''ad hoc authority,'' that is, the power to govern their own actions, (which can include arrest), subject to review by the real authorities. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Abd|contribs]]) 05:03, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
Isn' what Abd said about Dave true for nearly all wiki sysops? They're chosen for edit counts ("high activity in site maintenance") instead of leadership or dispute resolution skills. Perhaps that's an issue wiki communities should be permitted to have discussions about. Anons and short-term editors write most of Wikipedia's content, while the massive-edit-count editors mainly engage in adding categories, formatting, and typo-correcting, often with bots.

I believe that there's a lot of truth in what Abd wrote, but the truth strings, and people like Dave don't like being stung by the truth. They prefer flattery; no offensive yet provocative statements allowed. Typical professor. No wonder his own students hate him.
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Re: Abd indeffed on wikiversity

Unread post by Poetlister » Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:12 pm

Michaeldsuarez wrote:Isn' what Abd said about Dave true for nearly all wiki sysops? They're chosen for edit counts ("high activity in site maintenance") instead of leadership or dispute resolution skills. Perhaps that's an issue wiki communities should be permitted to have discussions about. Anons and short-term editors write most of Wikipedia's content, while the massive-edit-count editors mainly engage in adding categories, formatting, and typo-correcting, often with bots.
In my experience, many admins cause more disputes than they resolve.
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Re: Abd indeffed on wikiversity

Unread post by The Joy » Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:16 pm

"Rate My Professors" is no different than Wikipedia. You have no idea who is providing the criticism or if they are speaking the truth. It's all subjective, not objective. I wouldn't use anything there against any college instructor. U.S. higher education isn't the happy place it used to be if it was ever happy at all. I was told before leaving high school that I should be thankful if a college professor (particularly in the hard sciences) was interested in seeing you learn at all. I had an "everything is self-explanatory" college math instructor and had to rely on my roommate's class notes from another math instructor in order to understand anything. He's still there as an adjunct and will remain there until he can't self-explanatory anything anymore. I didn't complain about it and I accepted it as part of college life. I also knew that I should have gone to the college's tutoring center for the class, but I was lazy since it wasn't related to my major. Alas, the stupidity of youth! :frustrated:

I have no idea if Professor Braunschweig is one of the sane ones at Wikiversity. It's hard to tell who's the sanest in an insane asylum. He'll be glad to have never met "Everything you know is wrong" Ottava Rima and Emesee who was a custodian, but then he went crazy, ran to Wikipedia Review, created several sock puppets at Wikiversity, and created a criticism website that lasted a few months. Maybe he, JWSchmidt, and Moulton would've gotten along? Maybe not.

What was the point of Wikiversity again? :unsure:
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Unread post by Michaeldsuarez » Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:40 pm

The Joy wrote:I have no idea if Professor Braunschweig is one of the sane ones at Wikiversity.
He blocked Wikiversity's greatest visionary and guiding light. Nearly no one other than Abd understood what Wikiversity should be like.
The Joy wrote:What was the point of Wikiversity again? :unsure:
Sharing. Wikiversity is a place to share learning resources and experiences. Now they've eliminated yet another person who actively sought to share and build, because they believe that feelings must be protected at all costs.

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How can Abd be a visionary and guiding light when Wikiversity's community does not want to follow him?
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The Joy wrote:How can Abd be a visionary and guiding light when Wikiversity's community does not want to follow him?
Athens' democracy had Socrates killed.

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The Joy wrote:How can Abd be a visionary and guiding light when Wikiversity's community does not want to follow him?
Athens' democracy had Socrates killed.
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Unread post by Vigilant » Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:45 am

I doubt Abd has ever willingly left any forum. Ever.
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Re: Abd indeffed on wikiversity

Unread post by etiamidlewild » Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:20 am

Michaeldsuarez wrote:
The Joy wrote:I have no idea if Professor Braunschweig is one of the sane ones at Wikiversity.
He blocked Wikiversity's greatest visionary and guiding light. Nearly no one other than Abd understood what Wikiversity should be like.
The Joy wrote:What was the point of Wikiversity again? :unsure:
Sharing. Wikiversity is a place to share learning resources and experiences. Now they've eliminated yet another person who actively sought to share and build, because they believe that feelings must be protected at all costs.
Eliminating the people on the projects who are actively sharing knowledge and building an encyclopedia is a common practice in the WMF wiki's these days. There are a few on every project who built their wiki careers on getting rid of content builders. All they have to do is cite Not here or Disruption or accuse them of being a sockpuppet of some previously banned user and that's all she wrote. The result will be a decision based on who of the 2 has the stronger reputation, the accuser or the accused.

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etiamidlewild wrote:Eliminating the people on the projects who are actively sharing knowledge and building an encyclopedia is a common practice in the WMF wiki's these days. There are a few on every project who built their wiki careers on getting rid of content builders. All they have to do is cite Not here or Disruption or accuse them of being a sockpuppet of some previously banned user and that's all she wrote. The result will be a decision based on who of the 2 has the stronger reputation, the accuser or the accused.
:welcome:

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Unread post by etiamidlewild » Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:44 pm

Thanks for the welcome. Never edited there myself nor really even heard of it. Might give it a go. Thanks for the insight. Sounds like they have an opening.:-)

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Unread post by greyed.out.fields » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:58 am

Randy from Boise wrote:
Michaeldsuarez wrote:
The Joy wrote:How can Abd be a visionary and guiding light when Wikiversity's community does not want to follow him?
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Michaeldsuarez wrote:
The Joy wrote:How can Abd be a visionary and guiding light when Wikiversity's community does not want to follow him?
Athens' democracy had Socrates killed.
Seriously? :blink:
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Michaeldsuarez wrote:
The Joy wrote:How can Abd be a visionary and guiding light when Wikiversity's community does not want to follow him?
Athens' democracy had Socrates killed.
Seriously? :blink:
Are you suggesting otherwise?
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Unread post by The Joy » Thu Oct 15, 2015 12:35 am

Wikiversity really should change their "Block" policy to "Hemlock."
12:25, 14 September 2015 Dave Braunschweig (discuss | contribs) hemlocked Abd (discuss | contribs) with an expiry time of indefinite (cannot create accounts) (Intimidation, harassment, or vulgar language: Continued personal attacks against the polis.)
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The Joy wrote:Wikiversity really should change their "Block" policy to "Hemlock."
12:25, 14 September 2015 Dave Braunschweig (discuss | contribs) hemlocked Abd (discuss | contribs) with an expiry time of indefinite (cannot create accounts) (Intimidation, harassment, or vulgar language: Continued personal attacks against the polis.)
Perhaps a random demise from a list like the early Unix cookies file.
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Unread post by Jim » Thu Oct 15, 2015 4:07 am

02:38, 15 October 2015 Dave Braunschweig (discuss | contribs) unhemlocked Abd (discuss | contribs) (Agreement to focus comments on issues rather than editors.)
Abd talkpage wrote:I have abandoned the effort to create the Wikiversity I envisioned, as I failed to create the necessary conditions. I am now heavily occupied elsewhere, in ways that are far more rewarding, routinely. However, there are resources here that are valuable, with incoming links, and which should be maintained; for example, a "citation needed" template was added to one, and a citation is easily supplied. Thanks. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 23:41, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

The block itself was very specific. Additional restrictions on the unblock would not be appropriate. However, I sincerely hope that we will be able to avoid disruptions and discussions that have a net negative effect on Wikiversity. I appreciate your understanding. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 02:43, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

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Jim wrote:02:38, 15 October 2015 Dave Braunschweig (discuss | contribs) unhemlocked Abd (discuss | contribs) (Agreement to focus comments on issues rather than editors.)
Abd talkpage wrote:I have abandoned the effort to create the Wikiversity I envisioned, as I failed to create the necessary conditions. I am now heavily occupied elsewhere, in ways that are far more rewarding, routinely. However, there are resources here that are valuable, with incoming links, and which should be maintained; for example, a "citation needed" template was added to one, and a citation is easily supplied. Thanks. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 23:41, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

The block itself was very specific. Additional restrictions on the unblock would not be appropriate. However, I sincerely hope that we will be able to avoid disruptions and discussions that have a net negative effect on Wikiversity. I appreciate your understanding. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 02:43, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Abd poll: Date of the next block?

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Unread post by The Joy » Thu Oct 15, 2015 5:39 am

https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User_ta ... Good_block
Good block. Keep up the good work. He poisoned so much and chased away so many people. He was encouraged by a group who wanted to destroy Wikipedia in general, and felt that destroying Wikiversity was a first step. Ottava Rima (talk) 21:37, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
So Abd was acting on Wikipediocracy's behalf? :rotfl:

Technically, Wikipediocracy has more of a "sunlight is the best disinfectant" philosophy than the old "Wikipedia must die!" way. If our pointing out Wikipedia's flaws destroys it or reforms it, it's all good.
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The Joy wrote:https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User_ta ... Good_block
Good block. Keep up the good work. He poisoned so much and chased away so many people. He was encouraged by a group who wanted to destroy Wikipedia in general, and felt that destroying Wikiversity was a first step. Ottava Rima (talk) 21:37, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
So Abd was acting on Wikipediocracy's behalf? :rotfl:

Technically, Wikipediocracy has more of a "sunlight is the best disinfectant" philosophy than the old "Wikipedia must die!" way. If our pointing out Wikipedia's flaws destroys it or reforms it, it's all good.
His one edit this year.

They should sew Abd and Ottava into a bag and throw it in the river.
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Vigilant wrote:Abd poll: Date of the next block?

I say December 7th. Happy Pearl Harbor day.
You have to allow time for another attempt at sysop, or the Drama God will not be happy, so, say, Christmas?
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Unread post by Poetlister » Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:20 pm

Good block. Keep up the good work. He poisoned so much and chased away so many people. He was encouraged by a group who wanted to destroy Wikipedia in general, and felt that destroying Wikiversity was a first step. Ottava Rima (talk) 21:37, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
Can anyone recall if Ottava has an account on Wikipedia Review? If so, does that imply that this is more of a badsite than WR?
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Unread post by Michaeldsuarez » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:10 pm

https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User_talk:Dave_Braunschweig/Archive2#Good_block
Good block. Keep up the good work. He poisoned so much and chased away so many people. He was encouraged by a group who wanted to destroy Wikipedia in general, and felt that destroying Wikiversity was a first step. Ottava Rima (talk) 21:37, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
Wait, let's compare the following:

https://en.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=Wikiversity:Candidates_for_Custodianship/Dave_Braunschweig&diff=1226816
All I can see are a lot of page moves and very little admin work besides basic cleanup deletions. Why do you want to be an admin? [[User:Ottava Rima|Ottava Rima]] ([[User talk:Ottava Rima|talk]]) 03:37, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
https://en.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=Wikiversity:Colloquium&diff=1433108
Dave knows almost nothing about dispute resolution procedures on a wiki. I've been astonished to find that, but it's not terribly surprising, given his history. His high activity in site maintenance would not teach him this. Wikiversity mostly avoids conflict, so one may not gain much experience in this here. Dave started enwiki and Wikiversity activity when the wiki was relatively dead, he started editing in 2012. His enwiki activity remains very thin. Many users there never see ANI, or read ArbCom cases. Consider how Dave became a permanent custodian, who made that happen? (If you don't know, ask!) I work outside the rules, but in line with anticipation of community consensus, which is the ''real rule.'' Someone constrained by "the rules" would not have been able to do what I did.

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Both at one time or another believed that Dave Braunschweig wouldn't make a good sysop and for similar reasons, yet when Dave Braunschweig blocks Ottava's arch-nemesis, Ottava plays the sycophant. Ottava ought to be defending Abd and his right to make such comments.

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Michaeldsuarez wrote:Ottava ought to be defending Abd and his right to make such comments.
The correlation between what Ottava ought to do and what he does is not positive. I suspect that it is clearly negative.
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Good block. Keep up the good work. He poisoned so much and chased away so many people. He was encouraged by a group who wanted to destroy Wikipedia in general, and felt that destroying Wikiversity was a first step. Ottava Rima (talk) 21:37, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
Can anyone recall if Ottava has an account on Wikipedia Review? If so, does that imply that this is more of a badsite than WR?
Yes, he did. He obsessed over Geogre, Giano, and the other Featured Article writers for being "terrible." All I remember is any statement made by anyone besides Ottava was considered "idiotic" by Ottava. He ended up banned and we could never mention his name again in public without the staff getting e-mails from him years after he was gone.
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Poetlister wrote:
Michaeldsuarez wrote:Ottava ought to be defending Abd and his right to make such comments.
The correlation between what Ottava ought to do and what he does is not positive. I suspect that it is clearly negative.
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The Joy wrote:
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Good block. Keep up the good work. He poisoned so much and chased away so many people. He was encouraged by a group who wanted to destroy Wikipedia in general, and felt that destroying Wikiversity was a first step. Ottava Rima (talk) 21:37, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
Can anyone recall if Ottava has an account on Wikipedia Review? If so, does that imply that this is more of a badsite than WR?
Yes, he did. He obsessed over Geogre, Giano, and the other Featured Article writers for being "terrible." All I remember is any statement made by anyone besides Ottava was considered "idiotic" by Ottava. He ended up banned and we could never mention his name again in public without the staff getting e-mails from him years after he was gone.
I particularly remember the thread where he baldly asserted than any parent who took naked pictures of their kids playing in the sprinkler was a child molester and needed to be arrested.
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Vigilant wrote:I particularly remember the thread where he baldly asserted than any parent who took naked pictures of their kids playing in the sprinkler was a child molester and needed to be arrested.
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Jim wrote:
Vigilant wrote:I particularly remember the thread where he baldly asserted than any parent who took naked pictures of their kids playing in the sprinkler was a child molester and needed to be arrested.
Those were the days, my friend. We thought they'd never end.
Sadly, that link doesn't work for me anymore...

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Vigilant wrote:Sadly, that link doesn't work for me anymore...
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Re: Abd indeffed on wikiversity

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Jim wrote:
Vigilant wrote:Sadly, that link doesn't work for me anymore...
:XD Oh yeah. B&. Try this.
Was I banned?
I don't recall...
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Re: Abd indeffed on wikiversity

Unread post by Jim » Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:30 am

Vigilant wrote:
Jim wrote:
Vigilant wrote:Sadly, that link doesn't work for me anymore...
:XD Oh yeah. B&. Try this.
Was I banned?
I don't recall...
Sorry. I assumed you couldn't log in to see the link, and thought that might be why. I'm astonished it's still there, actually.

I put it here as well, because DropBox is slow...

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Re: Abd indeffed on wikiversity

Unread post by Zoloft » Fri Oct 16, 2015 7:06 am

I had forgotten just how insane that discussion was. Ottava took it upon himself to redefine the concepts of pedophilia, nakedness, and what a vagina is!

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Re: Abd indeffed on wikiversity

Unread post by Vigilant » Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:26 pm

Zoloft wrote:I had forgotten just how insane that discussion was. Ottava took it upon himself to redefine the concepts of pedophilia, nakedness, and what a vagina is!
Arguing with women over what constitutes a vagina.
He's a peach.
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Re: Abd indeffed on wikiversity

Unread post by Auggie » Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:28 am

:rotfl:

Abd

That dude's crazy. :banana:

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Unread post by greyed.out.fields » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:26 am

Vigilant wrote: Perhaps a random demise from a list like the early Unix cookies file.
I have almost no idea what that means. Can you explain?

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Re: Abd indeffed on wikiversity

Unread post by Poetlister » Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:01 am

Auggie wrote::rotfl:

Abd

That dude's crazy. :banana:
Keep up; we were just discussing Ottava. Abd has managed to have children, so he may be better informed about female anatomy that Ottava is.
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Re: Abd indeffed on wikiversity

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greyed.out.fields wrote:
Vigilant wrote: Perhaps a random demise from a list like the early Unix cookies file.
I have almost no idea what that means. Can you explain?

(Remembering that your audience was still using a PC running Windows 95 until 2004, and used to improve its performance stop it crashing so often by taking off the side panels and blowing out the dust with a hair dryer, of course.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortune_(Unix)

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Unread post by Vigilant » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:26 pm

:grumble:

:mutter:

Kids these days.
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Re: Abd indeffed on wikiversity

Unread post by Vigilant » Sun Oct 18, 2015 12:06 am

Anyone want to take bets on how long it take Abd to get himself blocked on Quora?
Thanks. What I have abandoned is a personal effort to make it happen. I will support the efforts of others. I did not succeed in creating the community that is required, and, specifically, leadership other than my own. I'm trained in creating community projects, that was a big red flag.
In hindsight, it's obvious. I'm now active on Quora, where the quality of regular participation is astonishing, and where my work is not only accepted, it is requested and acknowledged. Quora provides statistics, and my page views are now running above 6000 views per day (from about 1000 when I was neglecting Quora for Wikiversity, and ). I am profusely thanked, every day. I'm making a difference in the lives of people, and engaging with teenage kids, mothers, people seeking relationship advice, as well as some of the best thinkers on the planet, some of whom are welcoming me and acknowledging me. This is my profile page there: [4] (Quora requires real names, by the way.) (I haven't edited my Quora bio since the block).
The block and reaction to it demonstrated that Wikiversity isn't safe, as more or less the last straw in a series of incidents showing this (involving others). --Abd (discuss • contribs) 03:38, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
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Re: Abd indeffed on wikiversity

Unread post by Poetlister » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:30 pm

Quora is a weird place. All sorts of strange things might happen there. Mind you, that's also true of Wikiversity.
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Re: Abd indeffed on wikiversity

Unread post by Auggie » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:32 pm

Vigilant wrote:Anyone want to take bets on how long it take Abd to get himself blocked on Quora?
...
Every single new venue is 'teh bestest evar' for him... until he gets banned, that is. Every. Single. Time.
:XD That's pretty funny. When he gets kicked off the Martha Stewart blog we'll know he's hit rock bottom.
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Ottava's fine in my book. It looks like you're making a lame attempt at some kind of 8th grade bullying, TBH. :B'

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Re: Abd indeffed on wikiversity

Unread post by Poetlister » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:26 pm

Don't blame me. It was Vigilant who said "Arguing with women over what constitutes a vagina. He's a peach."
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Re: Abd indeffed on wikiversity

Unread post by Jim » Sun Oct 18, 2015 4:07 pm

I'll do that wikipedian "coming out of recent retirement" thing just to point out that this thread is now the Poethorde arguing with Auggie about whether we were talking about Abd or Ottava. It made me smile. That's all.
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Re: Abd indeffed on wikiversity

Unread post by Zoloft » Sun Oct 18, 2015 4:08 pm

Jim wrote:"I'll do that wikipedian "coming out of recent retirement" thing just to point out that this thread is now the Poethorde arguing with Auggie about whether we were talking about Abd or Ottava. It made me smile. That's all.
I think they call that 'Nostalgia.'

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Re: Abd indeffed on wikiversity

Unread post by Jim » Sun Oct 18, 2015 4:11 pm

Zoloft wrote:I think they call that 'Nostalgia.'
They used to. I remember those days.

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Re: Abd indeffed on wikiversity

Unread post by Vigilant » Sun Oct 18, 2015 4:25 pm

Jim wrote:
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They used to. I remember those days.
What happened to your avatar?
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Re: Abd indeffed on wikiversity

Unread post by Jim » Sun Oct 18, 2015 4:28 pm

Vigilant wrote:
Jim wrote:
Zoloft wrote:I think they call that 'Nostalgia.'
They used to. I remember those days.
What happened to your avatar?
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Re: Abd indeffed on wikiversity

Unread post by Auggie » Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:05 pm

Jim wrote:I'll do that wikipedian "coming out of recent retirement" thing just to point out that this thread is now the Poethorde arguing with Auggie about whether we were talking about Abd or Ottava. It made me smile. That's all.
:XD

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