Extremely unlikely; he does not have the background, it seems. Also: it makes no sense.Vigilant wrote: In that hot mess, one of his friends mentions that if Ryan hadn't been conned into "taking the DAT..." that it wouldn't have happened to him. Do we have a wannabe dentist on our hands?
Says the guy with pictures of burned and tortured women on his site.Ryan Kaldari says : March 22, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Glad to hear you guys are taking this seriously and will hopefully learn from the experience. Treating women as outsiders in the tech world is unfortunately all too common. The only way we can improve things is to be proactive and learn from our mistakes.
Irony!Ryan Kaldari says:
June 3, 2012 at 5:26 pm
99% of the content on Jimmy Wales talk page is posted by other users. I doubt Wales even reads most of it. A User Talk page is basically a user’s “inbox” on Wikipedia.
Regarding the criticism of your class, I have read the Atlantic article, and frankly I’m amazed you are still defending the actions of your class. Your students blatantly violated the goodwill of the Wikipedia community and committed a serious breach of ethics. This seems to be obvious to everyone on the internet except yourself. Do you not understand that your students are creating huge amounts of unnecessary work for people who are volunteering their time? It’s like going to a community garden and dumping garbage over all the plants as an “experiment” to prove that food from community gardens might be tainted with garbage. Do you really expect the community gardeners to not be upset?
Why not issue an apology rather than all the defensive hand-waving? Whether you want to admit it or not, your class made a mistake by not adhering to basic standards of ethical research. No one is going to have faith in your future actions until you acknowledge that.
Not only there, but on sites run by WMF employees such as http://www.snuffster.com!! Try it now.Ryan Kaldari
November 24, 2010 at 11:25 AM
It’s quite true that misogyny and every kind of -ism and -phobia you can name run rampant on Wikipedia. It is in many ways a mirror of the biases inherent in our society (without the social filters that normally keep such behavior in check). The good news is that Wikipedia has policies and tools which can limit or mitigate this type of behavior. The bad news is that these policies and tools are rarely used effectively to combat such behavior. There was a discussion recently at WikiProject Feminism on this very issue. I’m not sure what the solution is other than tightening the policies and getting more female editors (perhaps a Catch-22). The overwhelming imbalance makes it difficult to even discuss these issues on-wiki without being overwhelmed with dismissive responses (I see a few in the comments here as well). I think there are signs of hope though. At least there are a few safe spaces and forums emerging for discussing the issue. See for example:
Morons. I got morons on my team.Greetings,
I'm very excited to welcome Ryan Kaldari to the Wikimedia Foundation as the Front End developer for fundraising. Ryan joins us from MTV Networks: Country Music Television, where he worked as a web developer responsible for several integration and architecture projects. Previous to that he helped develop Sitemason, an enterprise content management system used by numerous businesses, organizations, and colleges.
He's a long time Wikimedian who's been editing Wikipedia since 2004 and has been an admin since 2005. Some of you may have met him at the Paris Multimedia conference.
You can find what's kept him busy at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kaldari
He'll be starting June 1st and will work in the San Francisco office.
Ryan will bring in some much needed skills and experience to our fundraising software developments. He'll help us catch up on a lot of our pending fundraising software development projects, develop new tools and improve general infrastructure and will bring more general awesomeness to the team. He'll also work extensivelyto support and improve CiviCRM as our fundraising database platform.
Please join me in welcoming Ryan to the Wikimedia team! We'll be setting up his email as his start day gets closer but until then, you can reach him at <kaldari [at] gmail>.
--
Tomasz Finc
Engineering Program Manger - Fundraising, Mobile, & Offline
There's so much more.TungstenCarbide wrote:Jesus Christ, you just can't make this shit up. Wikipedia insider, admin and WMF employee tries to get our flamingferret banned from Wikipedia at the arbcom for being insensitive of another editor's suicide, only it wasn't true ... while said WMF employee has a snuffsite making fun of children murder victims. Did I get this right?
Thankyou Vigilant and tarantino and everyone else who had the stomach to dig this up.
Hey, stop insulting brown stains!Vigilant wrote:There's so much more.TungstenCarbide wrote:Jesus Christ, you just can't make this shit up. Wikipedia insider, admin and WMF employee tries to get our flamingferret banned from Wikipedia at the arbcom for being insensitive of another editor's suicide, only it wasn't true ... while said WMF employee has a snuffsite making fun of children murder victims. Did I get this right?
Thankyou Vigilant and tarantino and everyone else who had the stomach to dig this up.
I feel like I'm wiping a brown marker every time I run this guy's dox on a new search engine or with a slight permutation.
Brown stain every single time.
Someone start a pool!enwikibadscience wrote:Hey, stop insulting brown stains!Vigilant wrote:There's so much more.TungstenCarbide wrote:Jesus Christ, you just can't make this shit up. Wikipedia insider, admin and WMF employee tries to get our flamingferret banned from Wikipedia at the arbcom for being insensitive of another editor's suicide, only it wasn't true ... while said WMF employee has a snuffsite making fun of children murder victims. Did I get this right?
Thankyou Vigilant and tarantino and everyone else who had the stomach to dig this up.
I feel like I'm wiping a brown marker every time I run this guy's dox on a new search engine or with a slight permutation.
Brown stain every single time.
But, yes, thanks for digging up stuff from websites I won't go to. I appreciate your publicizing such difficult material.
Or, in the case of the wikimedia foundation, testes.TungstenCarbide wrote:sigh ... life is a series of tests.Kelly Martin wrote:I have to say that snuffster.com looks to be an extremely tasteless site. It looks like Kaldari originally registered it back in 2002 or 2003, and it's possible that he's no longer actively involved in it, but if he's not his failure to disassociate himself from it ought to be viewed as problematic, at the very least. He certainly has no business lecturing other people on issues related to suicide or death.
The LvMI is something I know a bit about. (I know so much that it was the only article I was banned from.)Jim wrote: Also, according to Wikipedia, the motto of the Ludwig von Mises Institute (T-H-L).
I think it's from Virgil (the Roman one, not the Thunderbirds pilot...)
(I think "malis" might be "bad" or "evil" rather than "misfortune" but it might carry connotations of both...)
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/malus#Latin (dative plural) - yeah, it's wiktionary, but the "mal" prefix suggests the "bad" or "evil" aspect to me. I see "misfortune" as less literal, if anything - but there is, as I said, the connotation of "bad luck" too. It's open to interpretation. Google translate agrees with you, though, giving it as first choice, above alternatives without "mal" - so what do I know... http://translate.google.com/#en/la/misfortuneMilesMoney wrote:The LvMI is something I know a bit about. (I know so much that it was the only article I was banned from.)Jim wrote: Also, according to Wikipedia, the motto of the Ludwig von Mises Institute (T-H-L).
I think it's from Virgil (the Roman one, not the Thunderbirds pilot...)
(I think "malis" might be "bad" or "evil" rather than "misfortune" but it might carry connotations of both...)
The usual translation is "Yield not to misfortunes, but advance all the more boldly against them."
The translation preferred by the LvMI is "Do not give in to evil but proceed ever more boldly against it."
The former is more literal and emphasizes fortune, not morality, which is more plausible.
Speaking of mal, thanks to Malleus for orginally pointing out the ANI thread. Lol, to find something this outrageous as that "confession" in that vermin-fest was a treat.EricBarbour wrote:This is one of the hottest threads in WO history, at least on 7 March. At times, 40+ unregistered readers were looking at it.
Nobody forced Ryan Corbett Smith to host a site that makes fun of murdered children. That shit's on him.NO to McCarthyism/cyberbullying!
I don't know if the "sockpuppetry" of trying to report something you think is a wikicrime anonymously normally receives a block if you apologize for trying. The community is nuts about that whole issue - we should have a system whereby anyone can start as many new accounts as they want, and the weight given those accounts' opinions is light enough that this is not a gaming mechanism.
But what I do know is that this practice of claiming that Wikimedia employees should be "vetted" to see if they've ever in their lives said something outrageous -- of trying to get editors' real names claiming that is some step toward accountable behavior, immediately before using those names to try to collect together a list of oddities and photos you think are unflattering to try to make them feel uncomfortable -- those things are just plain and absolutely wrong and we have to hold absolutely firm against them. If we let these bastards pull this stunt, it could be like what they did to Fae all over again, and Wikipedia establishes itself even more firmly as a shining example of cyberbullocracy as a form of government. Sure, they should be free to have their giggles at WO if that's what they feel like, but the basis of that freedom is that we angrily resist any effort to use that to change our behavior. With freedom comes responsibility - and this is the responsibility. I urge Wikimedia to stand by Kaldari's right to free expression, and not allow a couple of edits to outweigh his day to day work history, let alone some content he may have something to do with that is totally outside of his duties at Wikipedia!
I say this despite the fact that I agreed at the time that Eric Corbett had been poorly treated - based on what he mentioned about his father, he deserves our sympathy just as much as anyone else in that story. There are many times when the best thing for us to do is nothing at all, sanction no one, but recognize that we should aspire to a higher standard of freedom than what we have. Wnt (talk) 05:04, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, 10 years of misogyny, that's "ever in their lives said something outrageous." Yeah, mocking suicides and dead children is "unflattering."Vigilant wrote:This lady doth protest too much...Nobody forced Ryan Corbett Smith to host a site that makes fun of murdered children. That shit's on him.NO to McCarthyism/cyberbullying!
I don't know if the "sockpuppetry" of trying to report something you think is a wikicrime anonymously normally receives a block if you apologize for trying. The community is nuts about that whole issue - we should have a system whereby anyone can start as many new accounts as they want, and the weight given those accounts' opinions is light enough that this is not a gaming mechanism.
But what I do know is that this practice of claiming that Wikimedia employees should be "vetted" to see if they've ever in their lives said something outrageous -- of trying to get editors' real names claiming that is some step toward accountable behavior, immediately before using those names to try to collect together a list of oddities and photos you think are unflattering to try to make them feel uncomfortable -- those things are just plain and absolutely wrong and we have to hold absolutely firm against them. If we let these bastards pull this stunt, it could be like what they did to Fae all over again, and Wikipedia establishes itself even more firmly as a shining example of cyberbullocracy as a form of government. Sure, they should be free to have their giggles at WO if that's what they feel like, but the basis of that freedom is that we angrily resist any effort to use that to change our behavior. With freedom comes responsibility - and this is the responsibility. I urge Wikimedia to stand by Kaldari's right to free expression, and not allow a couple of edits to outweigh his day to day work history, let alone some content he may have something to do with that is totally outside of his duties at Wikipedia!
I say this despite the fact that I agreed at the time that Eric Corbett had been poorly treated - based on what he mentioned about his father, he deserves our sympathy just as much as anyone else in that story. There are many times when the best thing for us to do is nothing at all, sanction no one, but recognize that we should aspire to a higher standard of freedom than what we have. Wnt (talk) 05:04, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
I don't think this group has anything to do with ACORN, the community organizers destroyed by James "fake pimp" O'Keefe. According to their website, they run "Chambana.net" and the Urbana, Illinois "Mini Makerfaire" and "Makerspace" (http://www.acornactivemedia.com/work/).Vigilant wrote:After an interlude of (apparent) DDOSing, back to our regularly schhhhheduled program.
* Programmer for discredited and defunct political group
You are, as always, a moron.Jim wrote: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/malus#Latin (dative plural) - yeah, it's wiktionary, but the "mal" prefix suggests the "bad" or "evil" aspect to me. I see "misfortune" as less literal, if anything - but there is, as I said, the connotation of "bad luck" too. It's open to interpretation. Google translate agrees with you, though, giving it as first choice, above alternatives without "mal" - so what do I know... http://translate.google.com/#en/la/misfortune
How the quote is commonly used, is, of course, possibly a different matter again.
I created the Snuffster website as a parody of Friendster back in 2003. As you can see from this archive of Friendster, virtually every word on Snuffster is a direct parody. As the site was just an outdated joke, I never policed the content that other people added later. And for the record, I was only responsible for a single profile on the site which had nothing remotely offensive on it. If you want to accuse me of something, accuse me of not pro-actively censoring the offensive content that other people added. Now that it's been brought to my attention, I've disabled most of the site, although I left the home page if people are curious about it. The site had long outlived its purpose anyway. I'm not ashamed of having created it, however. Maybe it's a bit morbid, but I thought it was a fun experiment in creating a social networking site (and not a bad parody either). That's all I have to say on the subject. Kaldari (talk) 10:42, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Lukeno94 wrote:Kaldari has claimed the website is a parody, and explicitly stated "I'm not ashamed of having created it". Whether it is a parody or not is irrelevant; it is disgraceful, and if a regular employer found out about it, I can almost guarantee that they would find some way of sacking you.
Kaldari has already lost his sysop rights and his respect within the community. I don't believe that he needs to be blocked.enwikibadscience wrote:Someones are suggesting he be blocked, others arguing to protect him.
So, WMF hires drunkards, crooks, liars, and now this.Time for a block?[edit]
Is there any real argument against blocking, really? Do you really need to consult the endless WP:* arcana of rules and essays and policies to tell you that this is an a) deceptive and b) disgusting human being that no one in their right mind should wish to be associated with? I realize this runs counter to the hipster/libertarian streak that permeates much of this websites these days, one that loathes to ban people just because they believe in or advocate distasteful thing. But seriously, a WMF staffer masquerading socks and operating a faux snuff site has to be a scale-tipper here. Tarc (talk) 00:33, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Demiurge1000, the difference between Alison and Kaldari is that Alison combats sockpuppetry while Kaldari engages in it. The real issue here is sockpuppetry conducted in order to covertly combat one's enemies, not some parody sharing site.Hey Ali, how's tricks? As you know, there's a thread over at [[WP:ANI]] where some guy is described as being involved with a site that made fun of murdered children. Just to provide a little context for the doubtless terribly dramatic discussion that will follow, I mentioned another website that does so, and your (past?) involvement with that website. So, not that it's needed, but this is just to let you know you were mentioned. --[[User:Demiurge1000|Demiurge1000]] ([[User_talk:Demiurge1000|talk]]) 11:39, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
You're edit warring on Giano's talkpage. You should stop. I hardly suppose I need to refer you to WP:3RR. Bishonen | talk 12:13 am, 23 February 2014, Sunday (14 days ago) (UTC+1).
I am? Seriously? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 12:19 am, 23 February 2014, Sunday (14 days ago) (UTC+1)
Well now, I just looked there, and I saw you "edit-warring". Perhaps you should go to bed. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 12:21 am, 23 February 2014, Sunday (14 days ago) (UTC+1)
Excuse me? I've reverted once. You've reverted four times in half an hour, and you say you "saw me edit-warring"? I'll report you if you persist. Bishonen | talk 12:31 am, 23 February 2014, Sunday (14 days ago) (UTC+1).
Goodness me! I shall be reported if I "persist"! I am wondering if this is some surreal joke, actually for now I will assume it's all totally straight-faced. Keep on with that, sweetie. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 12:51 am, 23 February 2014, Sunday (14 days ago) (UTC+1)
link
Another similar website
Above we have claims that Kaldari (T-C-L)was involved in a website that made fun of murdered children. And we have a plausible statement by Kaldari that he was not responsible for posting the material concerned; and he states that he's now removed that material.
Another website that makes fun of murdered children, where the material in question has ''not'' been taken down, can be found by googling "Encyclopedia Dramatica Madeleine McCann". The Google search results give you an idea of the sort of content there; visiting the page itself may be inadvisible for many. That's only the most notable example that springs to mind; there's a great deal more like that on that site.
And we have an English Wikipedia oversighter, checkuser and OTRS member (Alison (T-C-L), K.W.) who says in 2009 (that's really rather recent, compared with things Kaldari was up to in 2004) "I'm also a sysop on Encyclopedia Dramatica. Yes, it's true! ... I keep both these arenas very separate". The big graphic on that page is an interpretation of Encyclopedia Dramatica's logo; there's an even bigger one on her current userpage that's similar.
There's nothing to indicate that person has edited the pages about murdered children there - either to add to them or to make them less offensive - just as no-one has suggested that Kaldari added any of the similar material mentioned above. But Kaldari does seem to do a better job of keeping "these arenas very separate"; he's not promoted or mentioned his Friendster parody on Wikipedia.
The English Wikipedia community has historically been quite tolerant of editors involved in such things. Maybe it's one of these "free speech" things. --Demiurge1000 (T-C-L) 12:32 pm, Today
I'm no fan of Demiurge1000, but... no.Kiefer.Wolfowitz wrote: Demiwit went to her talk page and asked her a cliched question given to prostitutes, "how's tricks?".
I'm not really sure that bad taste should be a capital offense.lilburne wrote:Really?Lukeno94 wrote:Kaldari has claimed the website is a parody, and explicitly stated "I'm not ashamed of having created it". Whether it is a parody or not is irrelevant; it is disgraceful, and if a regular employer found out about it, I can almost guarantee that they would find some way of sacking you.
Coders have global edit interface rights for coding. He used this right to act as an admin and protect his own talk page. Not sneering at you, Vigilant, but it was easy information to find, and none of the admins or editors discussing this on the ANI thread seem able to find this info. If I can find it, it's easy to figure out.Vigilant wrote:How is it that this says he was desysoped but he ca still protect his talk page??
enwikibadscience wrote:Did he give up the bit or not?
Another vote, another vote!
How many more times will Kaldari use his global rights for administrative actions to benefit him on en.Wikipedia after "resigning" his bit for sock puppetry?
Kaldari will act as an adminidtrator on his own behalf after sanctimoniously and fakely resigning his bit....
A. 0 more times
B. 1 more time
C. 2 more times
D. As many more times as benefits him, you thought the de-sysop was real?
E. As many more times as he wants, you non-WMF-employee peon.
F. De-sysop? Lol, he paid for 10 years of murdered-children-are-funny site maintenance. Now that's a sysop.
People are questioning whether using admin powers for your benefit after resigning your admin powers is controversial. (And, yes, I read and followed how he could do it, but it was a clear en.Wiki admin action.)
My main Internet connection is being shitty today.enwikibadscience wrote:Did he give up the bit or not?
Coders have global edit interface rights for coding. He used this right to act as an admin and protect his own talk page. Not sneering at you, Vigilant, but it was easy information to find, and none of the admins or editors discussing this on the ANI thread seem able to find this info. If I can find it, it's easy to figure out.Vigilant wrote:How is it that this says he was desysoped but he ca still protect his talk page??
That seems to be the case. Maybe the editing-while-inebriated en.Wiki editor can find a job.SB_Johnny wrote:enwikibadscience wrote:Did he give up the bit or not?
Another vote, another vote!
How many more times will Kaldari use his global rights for administrative actions to benefit him on en.Wikipedia after "resigning" his bit for sock puppetry?
Kaldari will act as an adminidtrator on his own behalf after sanctimoniously and fakely resigning his bit....
A. 0 more times
B. 1 more time
C. 2 more times
D. As many more times as benefits him, you thought the de-sysop was real?
E. As many more times as he wants, you non-WMF-employee peon.
F. De-sysop? Lol, he paid for 10 years of murdered-children-are-funny site maintenance. Now that's a sysop.
People are questioning whether using admin powers for your benefit after resigning your admin powers is controversial. (And, yes, I read and followed how he could do it, but it was a clear en.Wiki admin action.)
Does the WMF office have an open bar?
No brainer there.Vigilant wrote:My main Internet connection is being shitty today.enwikibadscience wrote:Did he give up the bit or not?
Coders have global edit interface rights for coding. He used this right to act as an admin and protect his own talk page. Not sneering at you, Vigilant, but it was easy information to find, and none of the admins or editors discussing this on the ANI thread seem able to find this info. If I can find it, it's easy to figure out.Vigilant wrote:How is it that this says he was desysoped but he ca still protect his talk page??
I found this reference and then the router from Satan went tits up.
He needs to be stripped clean of "rights" and blocked the same as any other user would have been.
Kaldari is in global group "interface editors", which includes the ability to protect or unprotect any page on any Wikimedia project. This privilege was likely granted consequent to his role with the fundraising department; some people may recall that, when the WMF started running big-ass fundraising banners, some projects threatened to remove, delete or disable them, prompting the WMF to implement measures such that its developers (such as Kaldari) could forcibly reinstate or tweak them without having to go through the local community.Vigilant wrote:How is it that this says he was desysoped but he ca still protect his talk page??
Pretty straight-forward abuse, using global rights to act as an administrator on your own behalf, when such action was not called for, and after resigning the bit.Kelly Martin wrote:Kaldari is in global group "interface editors", which includes the ability to protect or unprotect any page on any Wikimedia project. This privilege was likely granted consequent to his role with the fundraising department; some people may recall that, when the WMF started running big-ass fundraising banners, some projects threatened to remove, delete or disable them, prompting the WMF to implement measures such that its developers (such as Kaldari) could forcibly reinstate or tweak them without having to go through the local community.Vigilant wrote:How is it that this says he was desysoped but he ca still protect his talk page??
Basically, this was abuse of his staff rights in contravention of local community policy. I doubt he will be sanctioned for it, though.
There's an ANI subthread open on that bit as well.Kelly Martin wrote:Kaldari is in global group "interface editors", which includes the ability to protect or unprotect any page on any Wikimedia project. This privilege was likely granted consequent to his role with the fundraising department; some people may recall that, when the WMF started running big-ass fundraising banners, some projects threatened to remove, delete or disable them, prompting the WMF to implement measures such that its developers (such as Kaldari) could forcibly reinstate or tweak them without having to go through the local community.Vigilant wrote:How is it that this says he was desysoped but he ca still protect his talk page??
Basically, this was abuse of his staff rights in contravention of local community policy. I doubt he will be sanctioned for it, though.
Which is pointless masturbation as the decision on that matter will be made by Phillip Beaudette, or by whoever Ryan's supervisor at the WMF is, and I rather doubt either of them care terribly much about what a bunch of dramaboard junkies on the English Wikipedia have to say.Lukeno94 wrote:There's an ANI subthread open on that bit as well.
As to not caring, I agree. But this tool can be removed by stewards if a local community reaches consensus and then requests it. Although as a coder tool, that might be an exception. Still, he used a global tool to act as an administrator on his own behalf after losing his admin rights. I am enjoying this feces-fest.Kelly Martin wrote:Which is pointless masturbation as the decision on that matter will be made by Phillip Beaudette, or by whoever Ryan's supervisor at the WMF is, and I rather doubt either of them care terribly much about what a bunch of dramaboard junkies on the English Wikipedia have to say.Lukeno94 wrote:There's an ANI subthread open on that bit as well.
No, it cannot. He has his global rights by WMF edict, and stewards cannot contravene that. The stewards are not going to go to war with Beaudette over this.enwikibadscience wrote:As to not caring, I agree. But this tool can be removed by stewards if a local community reaches consensus and then requests it.
Yeah, I caught that, but not really sure how to read most of Wikipedia. I think that if WMF had a community representative who gave a turd about the community he was representing to them, en.Wiki asking that the tool be removed might have some impact, at least a warning.Kelly Martin wrote:No, it cannot. He has his global rights by WMF edict, and stewards cannot contravene that. The stewards are not going to go to war with Beaudette over this.enwikibadscience wrote:As to not caring, I agree. But this tool can be removed by stewards if a local community reaches consensus and then requests it.
I still can't get over his LinkedIn recommendation, from his former WMF supervisor, claiming that he's "zero drama".
He may get "talked to" by his supervisor, but from what I can put together they're generally satisfied with his actual work. Plus, he's a white guy with a generally appealing appearance (yeah, he has the stupid hat and beard, but those are totally hipster and Wikipedia tries hard to appeal to the hipster crowd, and the hat in particular is a signal), so he's entitled to privilege, which is why he won't get the Sarah Stierch treatment. The only test will be whether he continues to properly project the belief that Wikipedia is awesome; if he does that he'll keep his job. Hell, he might even get promoted.enwikibadscience wrote:Yeah, I caught that, but not really sure how to read most of Wikipedia. I think that if WMF had a community representative who gave a turd about the community he was representing to them, en.Wiki asking that the tool be removed might have some impact, at least a warning.
The last? Probably.Kelly Martin wrote:He may get "talked to" by his supervisor, but from what I can put together they're generally satisfied with his actual work. Plus, he's a white guy with a generally appealing appearance (yeah, he has the stupid hat and beard, but those are totally hipster and Wikipedia tries hard to appeal to the hipster crowd, and the hat in particular is a signal), so he's entitled to privilege, which is why he won't get the Sarah Stierch treatment. The only test will be whether he continues to properly project the belief that Wikipedia is awesome; if he does that he'll keep his job. Hell, he might even get promoted.enwikibadscience wrote:Yeah, I caught that, but not really sure how to read most of Wikipedia. I think that if WMF had a community representative who gave a turd about the community he was representing to them, en.Wiki asking that the tool be removed might have some impact, at least a warning.
That article is classic. Pure and unadulterated truth being told to the hipsters and bronies.Kelly Martin wrote:He may get "talked to" by his supervisor, but from what I can put together they're generally satisfied with his actual work. Plus, he's a white guy with a generally appealing appearance (yeah, he has the stupid hat and beard, but those are totally hipster and Wikipedia tries hard to appeal to the hipster crowd, and the hat in particular is a signal), so he's entitled to privilege, which is why he won't get the Sarah Stierch treatment. The only test will be whether he continues to properly project the belief that Wikipedia is awesome; if he does that he'll keep his job. Hell, he might even get promoted.enwikibadscience wrote:Yeah, I caught that, but not really sure how to read most of Wikipedia. I think that if WMF had a community representative who gave a turd about the community he was representing to them, en.Wiki asking that the tool be removed might have some impact, at least a warning.
Vigilant wrote: That article is classic. Pure and unadulterated truth being told to the hipsters and bronies.
I can hear the sounds of teeth gnashing and fedoras being spindled going on as I type.
I vaguely remember trying to use the Examiner as a source but having my edit blocked by filters.thekohser wrote:The Ryan Kaldari incident has now been memorialized by the mainstream media.
While we don't know for sure, it seems highly likely the reason the Examiner is blacklisted at Wikipedia is because Greg Kohs occasionally writes for them.MilesMoney wrote:I vaguely remember trying to use the Examiner as a source but having my edit blocked by filters.thekohser wrote:The Ryan Kaldari incident has now been memorialized by the mainstream media.
But that would be petty.Kelly Martin wrote:While we don't know for sure, it seems highly likely the reason the Examiner is blacklisted at Wikipedia is because Greg Kohs occasionally writes for them.MilesMoney wrote:I vaguely remember trying to use the Examiner as a source but having my edit blocked by filters.thekohser wrote:The Ryan Kaldari incident has now been memorialized by the mainstream media.
That's not the reason. Examiner.com was put on the "spam blacklist" many months before I ever authored my first news story for them. I can see how Examiner was a problem, as writers get paid mostly on a pay-per-pageview basis. So, Wikipedia was very enticing for Examiners to spam-link their stories.Kelly Martin wrote:While we don't know for sure, it seems highly likely the reason the Examiner is blacklisted at Wikipedia is because Greg Kohs occasionally writes for them.MilesMoney wrote:I vaguely remember trying to use the Examiner as a source but having my edit blocked by filters.thekohser wrote:The Ryan Kaldari incident has now been memorialized by the mainstream media.
