MetaWatch

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A thread for the ins & outs & way beyonds of metapedia.org meta.wikimedia.org

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1Goldberg2 has some "unusual ideas" he wishes to share:

Unusual idea

Lets throw away safety and inclusion together with divercity and transgenderism from Wiki and concentrate on writing Enciclopedia, not left ideas--1Goldberg2, 22 January 2021

Because the Wikimedia Foundation and chapters are just parasites on Wikimedia projects and without those who create wikiprojects, it means nothing. --sasha/krassotkin

User krassotkin is absolutely right. Fuck Foundation! Jimbo, you are king or moron? Act now! --1Goldberg2, 20 March 2021

Goldberg and his socks are indefinitely blocked from seven wikis.

His ru.wiki account has been blocked 87 times.

He has socks called Himmler and Manmustbewhite.

He has vandalised Greta Thunberg's pages on various wikis to call her a prostitute, or fat, etc.


During the request for his Global ban he has deliberately misgendered and called the proposer a liar...

Mrakia is a provocateur who pretends to be transgender person in order to be able to arrange conflicts and require other participants to turn to him in a female role. Several months ago he said he is leaving Russian Wikipedia, but soon returned when I saw that his departure did not make the proper impression. In reality, he is not transgender.

babbled on about homowars...

And credability of my accusers is important here. 3rd question : is it true, that you were head of one of the fighting parties in so called homowars and trolled users for years? Answer it. Now. --1Goldberg2

questioned a supporter's credentials...

Is it true that for some time you pretended to be a doctor, without having the right to do so? How many times have you been blocked?--1Goldberg2

and has probably knocked back a fair few shots while he's at it...

I would like to make a few clarifications. 1. I am not a vandal and I do not like vandals. My actions are aimed at writing articles, not spoiling them. 2. I am not homophobic or transphobic. I am against the violation of LGBT rights in Russia, and my disagreements with trans-activists concern the rules for using the Russian language and other lesser issues. For example, sport concerns. 3. I am skeptical about global warming, but at the same time it was me who wrote the article about Greta Thunberg in Russian Wikipedia. 4. Unfortunately, I am an alcoholic.--1Goldberg2

This has been dragging on for over ten days...

The tally currently stands at: 47 support / 16 oppose

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The tally currently stands at: 47 support / 16 oppose

And from what I noted, even some of the "opposes" were less true "oppose--they don't deserve this[1]" and more "If you do this, they're just going to come back under a different account and be harder to track; at least with the status quo we can keep an eye on them."

[1]Purposely being EXTREMELY generic here.

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Yes, I noticed. And there's probably something to be said for keeping your enemies extra close.

Anyway, time to stick the old oar in...

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le sigh éternel et profond

Delete. I do not understand a single sentence of the above reasoning.

1234qwer1234qwer4, 1 December 2021

[Giraffe Stapler]

My grandfather was in the Homowars. He lost his youngest brother and two aunts. My mother said he didn't like to talk about it, but he was a broken man because of the things he saw (and, I suspect, the things he did). I am upset that IGoldberg2 would invoke that horrible time so insensitively.

[MadManz]

between this and rodhullandemu, it seems a lot of wp editors will defend anyone who edits the same language wiki/same project as them

[Ming]

Well, it could very well mean that the Russian WP is a bunch of thugs.

[Giraffe Stapler]

Well, it could very well mean that the Russian WP is a bunch of thugs.

And I think I might be smelling just the fainest whiff of homophobia.

[Beeblebrox]

Just gonna leave this right here: link

[Anroth]

Well, it could very well mean that the Russian WP is a bunch of thugs.

Ah so you have met Ymblanter then?

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Wikimedia Affiliates Association AfD
1 December 2021 ~ Gender Desk

Or will our Excellency deserve another swift and sweet GenderDesk note yet again? O, let its (T)RUTH femalesplain us all also there by stealing groping our idea or two in turn; we nicely beseech thee, o gentle lady of the voting booth... [source]

Okay, that looks like a bat signal.

The Wikimedia Affiliates Association has been nominated for deletion. [...] this is the account of Wikipediocracy’s newest mod. As I understand, the announcement was made something to the effect of “this is our new mod, God help us all”. So they knew what they were getting into and they welcomed the circus.

The meta-er the better-er!

[AndyTheGrump]

...it’s not mean, or political, or Machiavellian. It’s just people having fun. So it might be hard for Wikipedians to relate to.

Zing!

[Ming]

Well, it could very well mean that the Russian WP is a bunch of thugs.

And I think I might be smelling just the fainest whiff of homophobia.

Well, a Venn diagram would show a large intersection, if not one entirely a subset of the other.

[Hemiauchenia]

1G2 "positive contributions" to RuWiki are all just bad translations of EnWiki articles that then have to be cleaned up by other users, no huge loss.

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Meta:Requests_for_deletion#commons.wikimedia.org





Edit: Apparently that makes us a single-purpose account

Edit2: And blocked from meta!

Edit3: Here comes the glock...

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If it looks like a cult and sounds like a cult, it's probably a cult...

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Crow sticking his beak in...

Delete with prejudice User's real world identity is widely known, as are his views on race and gender. This is most assuredly *not* someone who Meta should be giving a platform to. People have been WMF Globally Banned for far less (the views, not the attempted comedy). Also, not funny. Enough.

NOT that Jimmy, 20:36, 4 December 2021

He's a globally banned user himself, and an actual racist, so this is a truly meta-tastic performance art piece.
Bravo!

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Crow-related posts moved to Crow back up to his old tricks

[Hemiauchenia]

New global ban proposal for serial harasser and cross wiki sockpuppeteer Musée Annam https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Request ... %A9e_Annam. Seems to be mostly known for hurling extreme untranslatable expletives in Vietnamese. Support for ban is pretty much unanimous, except for one bizarre oppose from Trollflöjten (T-C-L):

Oppose I can not check anything. And this applies to almost all others as well. And yet the support section is automatically fills up. Real harassment is almost always the other way round: the crowd against individual, against outsiders. In classic reversal, scapegoats are slaughtered for one's own behavior. In the German Wikipedia this can be studied using the example of the systematic hunt of the (originally) good-willed User:Avoided. The formal end of the story was also here, see my German comment. Who have hunted him? Right, the righteous, self-proclaimed humanists, best honoraded users, users, which have everytime the right opinion, who always know the right section... --Trollflöjtenαω 13:02, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

[FelinaLavandula]

Does this make any more sense with the context on User:Avoided? (I don’t have it)

[Hemiauchenia]

Does this make any more sense with the context on User:Avoided? (I don’t have it)

I don't see how any context of what happened to Avoided (T-C-L) would make a statement like "Real harassment is almost always the other way round: the crowd against individual, against outsiders" logical or justifiable.

Edit: 2018 Global ban request for Avoided: https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Reque ... or_Avoided

Seems to have been a productive contributor on EnWiki with over 20,000 edits, but was making death threats on dewiki.

[FelinaLavandula]

Ah, it turns out I was familiar with this case after all but didn’t know the username.
But interestingly…

--Trollflöjtenαω 17:02, 10 January 2018 (UTC) „Avoided has >20,000 edits on EN-WP and even an empty block log.“ (A.Savin) How should that be possible, if it were a global problem? I can barely check the exposition of The Hexer, but I can see that avoided is not locked in the enWP. Please locked him first in enWP and make then the request for global ban. Look also „gewagter (...) Accountzuordnungen.“ (Elop) Ergo: In dubio pro reo – in doubt against the ban.

[FelinaLavandula]

Okay, not interestingly. Rather unsurprising really. Maybe this user is just principled against global bans in general?? These are really not complicated cases…

[tarantino]

GorillaWarfare today proposed on meta:

Requests for comment/Stop accepting cryptocurrency donations

There's already 57 supports and 14 opposes.

[Anroth]

The real question: has Gerard got involved yet.

I can't see they realistically take in serious money with crypto donations via a third party, if they are, I would be wondering what the scam is.

[Giraffe Stapler]

GorillaWarfare today proposed on meta:

Requests for comment/Stop accepting cryptocurrency donations

There's already 57 supports and 14 opposes.

Perhaps she read something yesterday that made her think about it?
New York Times: The Strange Alliance of Crypto and MAGA Believers

[Midsize Jake]

GorillaWarfare today proposed on meta:

Requests for comment/Stop accepting cryptocurrency donations

There's already 57 supports and 14 opposes.

It looks like the supporters are still winning, though the proportions have evened out a bit due to a late surge by the opposers, and they no longer have a 2/3rds majority. I counted 149 to 80, as of right now...



This also appeared on Slashdot yesterday, FWIW. No new information there, but some of the comments are still entertaining.

[Zoloft]

GorillaWarfare has been facing off with crypto bros and NFT hustlers on Twitter for some time now. Kudos.

[Vigilant]

Other uses for bitcoin include sedition and treason