Katherine Maher thinks race based reparations are the way to go

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Katherine Maher thinks race based reparations are the way to go

Unread post by Vigilant » Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:28 am

https://twitter.com/krmaher/status/1219374231437352960

The newest dipshittery at the WMF around 'equity' makes a ton more sense now.

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Re: Katherine Maher thinks race based reparations are the way to go

Unread post by Midsize Jake » Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:46 am

Hmm... somebody must have shown her that "percentage of Wikipedians who are non-white" number again.

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Re: Katherine Maher thinks race based reparations are the way to go

Unread post by CoffeeCrumbs » Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:23 am

The rest would be politically off-topic, I think, but I'm gobsmacked she didn't realize that there were slaves in New England. Someone who apparently fell behind by about the third grade is just the person to head an information technology non-profit.

Prepare for a tweetstorm when Maher finds out that we had a war with Mexico or that states have equal representation in the Senate.

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Re: Katherine Maher thinks race based reparations are the way to go

Unread post by Moral Hazard » Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:27 am

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Re: Katherine Maher thinks race based reparations are the way to go

Unread post by Poetlister » Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:09 pm

There's no need for Katherine to know anything personally. That's not the Wikipedia way. Obviously, any statement she makes will be reference dto a reliable source, and any errors will be corrected speedily by crowdsourcing. :D
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Re: Katherine Maher thinks race based reparations are the way to go

Unread post by Giraffe Stapler » Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:06 pm

CoffeeCrumbs wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:23 am
The rest would be politically off-topic, I think, but I'm gobsmacked she didn't realize that there were slaves in New England. Someone who apparently fell behind by about the third grade is just the person to head an information technology non-profit.
I don't find it hard to believe that she was never taught about slavery in New England when she was a child. She knows now. Isn't that better than staying ignorant?

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Re: Katherine Maher thinks race based reparations are the way to go

Unread post by Midsize Jake » Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:42 pm

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Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:06 pm
I don't find it hard to believe that she was never taught about slavery in New England when she was a child. She knows now. Isn't that better than staying ignorant?
Agreed... it's actually fairly common for Americans to believe this, or at least not know one way or the other — secondary education in the USA has always been notorious for historical whitewashing. It's only recently that some people have figured out that having all high-school textbooks be produced almost exclusively under Texas' standards is a serious problem. So, to this day, you can still get a complete high school education in the USA and never learn that eugenics even happened in America at all, for example. And we shouldn't forget that Maher got a lot of her college-level education in the Middle East.

That said.... as I sort-of vaguely implied earlier, supporting (or appearing to support) slavery reparations is just a smart business move for the WMF at this point, given that they're shifting their priorities away from trying to competently run their encyclopedia-like websites and towards being a "global equity movement." To be a proper global equity movement, they'll need to improve their participation percentages among non-white-male folks, and they'll have to do it soon. The real issue is whether or not the WMF's "movement" would end up being a positive or a negative force for equity, given their history of not being able to do much of anything competently and generally being an almost definitional exemplar of the law of unintended consequences.

And as for me personally, I'd much rather have the US government spend money on such reparations than almost anything the Trump Administration seemingly wants to prioritize, such as ecological destruction, war in the Middle East, personal aggrandizement, and so on. Hopefully I'm not alone in this regard.

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Re: Katherine Maher thinks race based reparations are the way to go

Unread post by Vigilant » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:21 pm

Another angle on this is that en.wp is largely viewed as a neutral entity in the ongoing Kulture Wars.

Taking a hard tack in SJW land is likely to make them a soft target for of lot of online agitators that have largely left them alone or pissed on individual contributors for the perceived left wing slant of many articles.
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Re: Katherine Maher thinks race based reparations are the way to go

Unread post by Poetlister » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:28 pm

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Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:42 pm
And as for me personally, I'd much rather have the US government spend money on such reparations than almost anything the Trump Administration seemingly wants to prioritize, such as ecological destruction, war in the Middle East, personal aggrandizement, and so on. Hopefully I'm not alone in this regard.
Don't forget the wall on the Mexican border, since for some reason the Mexican government seems to have declined Mr Trump's polite request to pay for it. :XD
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Re: Katherine Maher thinks race based reparations are the way to go

Unread post by Cla68 » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:45 pm

Poetlister wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:28 pm
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Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:42 pm
And as for me personally, I'd much rather have the US government spend money on such reparations than almost anything the Trump Administration seemingly wants to prioritize, such as ecological destruction, war in the Middle East, personal aggrandizement, and so on. Hopefully I'm not alone in this regard.
Don't forget the wall on the Mexican border, since for some reason the Mexican government seems to have declined Mr Trump's polite request to pay for it. :XD
Mexico has increased their enforcement of their southern border, which is probably not cheap. So, indirectly, they are helping pay to reduce immigration to the US. BTW, even if Mexico did agree to help fund the wall, the Democrats in Congress would block the legislation to try to keep President Trump from claiming victory.

Anyway, I'm not sure if I'm opposed to the WMF hiring executives with radical leftist political positions. It makes it easier to claim that Wikipedia is politically biased and controlled by activists and Bernie-bros. I wonder, though, if Ms Maher has given any thought to her future employment prospects? Because publicly expressing extreme political opinions isn't always a wise move.

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Re: Katherine Maher thinks race based reparations are the way to go

Unread post by Poetlister » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:08 pm

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I wonder, though, if Ms Maher has given any thought to her future employment prospects? Because publicly expressing extreme political opinions isn't always a wise move.
Maybe she thinks that Mr Sanders will be the next president, and is staking a claim to a position in Washington, or to succeed him in his Senate seat.
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Re: Katherine Maher thinks race based reparations are the way to go

Unread post by Midsize Jake » Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:00 pm

Cla68 wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:45 pm
Anyway, I'm not sure if I'm opposed to the WMF hiring executives with radical leftist political positions. It makes it easier to claim that Wikipedia is politically biased and controlled by activists and Bernie-bros.
Well, maybe, but since you'd presumably do it anyway...
I wonder, though, if Ms Maher has given any thought to her future employment prospects? Because publicly expressing extreme political opinions isn't always a wise move.
Doesn't seem to have done much harm to Steve King, Louie Gohmert or most of the other Republicans in the US Congress. (Not to mention you-know-who.)

Personally, I don't think Katherine Maher is really a "leftist" in any coherent sense of the term. She's clearly focused on the WMF (or whatever they're going to end up calling it) trying to become a major worldwide "movement" now, and logic would suggest that their goal is to create some sort of political influence for themselves, if not actual power. She (and by extension, the rest of the WMF leadership) wants their public perception to be on the same level as "Hollywood" or "Wall Street" or "the gun lobby" or "cable news," or at least close enough to those nebulous entities for the WMF to actually matter. To do that, they really do need more diversity among their core constituency, i.e., their users.

They probably won't get it, but it won't be from want of "virtue-signaling," as they say. Virtue-signaling is pretty easy. Actually having the virtues themselves is much harder.

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Re: Katherine Maher thinks race based reparations are the way to go

Unread post by Vigilant » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:38 pm

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Actually having the virtues themselves is much harder.
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Re: Katherine Maher thinks race based reparations are the way to go

Unread post by ArmasRebane » Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:07 pm

Vigilant wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:21 pm
Another angle on this is that en.wp is largely viewed as a neutral entity in the ongoing Kulture Wars.

Taking a hard tack in SJW land is likely to make them a soft target for of lot of online agitators that have largely left them alone or pissed on individual contributors for the perceived left wing slant of many articles.
The people who think this are probably already over at Conservapedia working on removing the whiff of socialism from the Bible.

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Re: Katherine Maher thinks race based reparations are the way to go

Unread post by Vigilant » Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:50 pm

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Re: Katherine Maher thinks race based reparations are the way to go

Unread post by Moral Hazard » Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:29 pm

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Future WMF employee right here...

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