Holocaust in Poland ArbCom Case

[Poetlister]

The point that should be made is that there are several decades worth of really skewed books out there, all "reliable sources" in the dimwitted Wikispeak, and they are wielded with effect by right wing POV gamesters...

RfB

Once again, the concept of a reliable source is often meaningless. It's just a clumsy way of obviating the need for subject expertise.

[Randy from Boise]

The point that should be made is that there are several decades worth of really skewed books out there, all "reliable sources" in the dimwitted Wikispeak, and they are wielded with effect by right wing POV gamesters...

RfB

Once again, the concept of a reliable source is often meaningless. It's just a clumsy way of obviating the need for subject expertise.

I am in 100% agreement but it is still 100% a reality.

RfB

[Poetlister]

The point that should be made is that there are several decades worth of really skewed books out there, all "reliable sources" in the dimwitted Wikispeak, and they are wielded with effect by right wing POV gamesters...

RfB

Once again, the concept of a reliable source is often meaningless. It's just a clumsy way of obviating the need for subject expertise.

I am in 100% agreement but it is still 100% a reality.

RfB

Unfortunately, yes. That is why it is unlikely that Wikipedia can ever be reliable except possibly in a few highly specialised areas where most of the editors are more or less experts. (Even then, of course, there may be vandalism.)

[Randy from Boise]

The point that should be made is that there are several decades worth of really skewed books out there, all "reliable sources" in the dimwitted Wikispeak, and they are wielded with effect by right wing POV gamesters...

RfB

Once again, the concept of a reliable source is often meaningless. It's just a clumsy way of obviating the need for subject expertise.

I am in 100% agreement but it is still 100% a reality.

RfB

Unfortunately, yes. That is why it is unlikely that Wikipedia can ever be reliable except possibly in a few highly specialised areas where most of the editors are more or less experts. (Even then, of course, there may be vandalism.)

I still haven't cobbled together my General Theory of the Universe for Wikipedia, but it's not nearly as grim. "As topics become more esoteric, factual accuracy and reliability increases correspondingly." That's part of it. It's the controversial contemporary political shit that gets completely messed up.

RfB

[GizzyCatBella]

Icewhiz is appealing his Topic Ban directly to Jimmy Wales.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk ... by_Icewhiz
I also investigated this Twitter account (JewWiki) https://twitter.com/JewWiki
It is Icewhiz (I am sure of that) or somebody posing to be Icewhiz.

[Randy from Boise]

Welcome to WPO, G.C.B.!

t

[Poetlister]

Icewhiz is appealing his Topic Ban directly to Jimmy Wales.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk ... by_Icewhiz

It's pretty rare for someone to try that gambit. It will be interesting to see if Jimbo responds. I strongly suspect that he no longer has the ability to overrule the Arbcom without causing total outrage.

[Eric Corbett]

Icewhiz is appealing his Topic Ban directly to Jimmy Wales.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk ... by_Icewhiz

It's pretty rare for someone to try that gambit. It will be interesting to see if Jimbo responds. I strongly suspect that he no longer has the ability to overrule the Arbcom without causing total outrage.

Like most of the stuff on Jimmy's talk page it'll just be quietly archived without comment after a day or two. He's quite predictable.

[Volunteer Marek]

Icewhiz is appealing his Topic Ban directly to Jimmy Wales.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk ... by_Icewhiz

It's pretty rare for someone to try that gambit. It will be interesting to see if Jimbo responds. I strongly suspect that he no longer has the ability to overrule the Arbcom without causing total outrage.

Well, that and the fact that since the case closed Icewhiz apparently started a twitter account which he uses to doxx, attack and harass people, including posting to their employer's twitter in attempts to get them fired, or accusing numerous editors of being Nazi sympathizers. One would think that makes UNbanning... "less probable", no? But hey, the guy never lacked for chutzpah so demanding to be unbanned while simultaneously being an internet creep and harasser is par for the course.

[el84]

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... =919035107

Whelp.

[nableezy]

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... =919035107

Whelp.

I'm guessing a certain Twitter account was shown to be Icewhiz.

[10920]

They must've changed the title of the section from 'blocked' to 'banned' since it doesn't redirect properly (the 'discuss this' link).

Guess Marek is happy.

[Randy from Boise]

I know Icewhiz is a controversial name POV warring in a controversial subject. An ultra-Zionist obsessed with Israel-Palestine???

Backstory???

RfB

[MrErnie]

Where is the twitter account and the proof that Icewhiz is behind it?

[10920]

Where is the twitter account and the proof that Icewhiz is behind it?

That might be the new style 'secret' evidence.

We are not worthy of seeing it.

[Vigilant]

The case was closed but they just swooped in and banned the guy out of process?

Some people never learn.

[ZettaComposer]

Levivich, this is a ban based on private evidence so, by definition, you don't have all the information, and you're not going to get it. I'd advise against making assumptions if you don't want to look foolish.

Oof. Someone needs a Snickers.

[Katie]

Here's what I think made ArbCom ban Icewhiz: in September 2019, an account on Twitter called "JewWiki" started posting on Wikipedia matters, anti-Semitism, etc, doxxing editors who he felt were anti-Semitic, or who simply disagreed with him. I think people e-mailed ArbCom with the evidence showing there was likely ties between the account and Icewhiz, if they weren't the same person, and ArbCom felt compelled to act.

[Ada Sinn]

For what it's worth, I believe Icewhiz being indeffed is a good thing for Wikipedia. He was always a disruptive and combative editor, and generally a cunning dick. The twitter account (likely his, but we will never know) shows a deeply disturbed mind with a hardline agenda. My gut feeling says the account is his, and the posts there just show what kind of person he really is. Editing Wikipedia with all its civility et al guidelines must be unbearingly frustrating for such individuals. The case seems closed but I am 100% sure we will see Icewhiz coming back as some sock(meat)puppet.

[Midsize Jake]

I just can't believe that they finally managed to agree with my suggestion at the outset, and it only took them about 14 weeks.

[Bezdomni]

I was impressed by these fun !so-stalky toys team Poland has been tinkering. (DOI h/t Isaac) We had a link to something similar on here earlier, that pairs reference numbers to length, number of images, number of sections, etc. When they start studying and standardizing refs, that's when I'll be really impressed though.

For historical values of polularity and AI WikiRank used data from 2002 to 2019.

AI = author interest

Encrusted bloviations like Criticism of Wikipedia, (probably not the best example, but an example), do better in their quality algorithm than the more streamlined Sultanate of Singora. The latter got dinged for not having enough pictures. The Signpost article, too, does pretty well for itself (and it doesn't even have a magic carpet, though it was Quack Guru who started it before Cirt got to it.)

So the world is puddle-wonderful. Icewhiz has been thawed. Either an in-state loss or out-of-state win for team meta-4, I suppose. I didn't think that Icewhiz wrote on Jimbotalk with the intention of sticking around (at least not with his current Wikipuddlian ID), but that was just my impression as an occasional drama reader. I read while writing this that it was posted after ArbCom had notified Icewhiz of his impending wikidoom. I expect Wails' tweet about private schools will probably get re-surfaced, because popcorn.

Тихий_Дон (T-H-L)

[Volunteer Marek]

I was impressed by these fun !so-stalky toys team Poland has been tinkering. (DOI h/t Isaac) We had a link to something similar on here earlier, that pairs reference numbers to length, number of images, number of sections, etc. When they start studying and standardizing refs, that's when I'll be really impressed though.

For historical values of polularity and AI WikiRank used data from 2002 to 2019.

AI = author interest

Encrusted bloviations like Criticism of Wikipedia, (probably not the best example, but an example), do better in their quality algorithm than the more streamlined Sultanate of Singora. The latter got dinged for not having enough pictures. The Signpost article, too, does pretty well for itself (and it doesn't even have a magic carpet, though it was Quack Guru who started it before Cirt got to it.)

So the world is puddle-wonderful. Icewhiz has been thawed. Either an in-state loss or out-of-state win for team meta-4, I suppose. I didn't think that Icewhiz wrote on Jimbotalk with the intention of sticking around, really, but that was just my impression as an occasional drama reader. I read while writing this that it was posted after ArbCom had notified Icewhiz of his impending wikidoom. I expect Wails' tweet about private schools will probably get re-surfaced, because popcorn.

Тихий_Дон (T-H-L)

As is often the case, I have no idea what you're going on about, but I did want to endorse your recommendation if that's what it is - that's a great book.

[Parabola]

I was impressed by these fun !so-stalky toys team Poland has been tinkering. (DOI h/t Isaac) We had a link to something similar on here earlier, that pairs reference numbers to length, number of images, number of sections, etc. When they start studying and standardizing refs, that's when I'll be really impressed though.

For historical values of polularity and AI WikiRank used data from 2002 to 2019.

AI = author interest

Encrusted bloviations like Criticism of Wikipedia, (probably not the best example, but an example), do better in their quality algorithm than the more streamlined Sultanate of Singora. The latter got dinged for not having enough pictures. The Signpost article, too, does pretty well for itself (and it doesn't even have a magic carpet, though it was Quack Guru who started it before Cirt got to it.)

So the world is puddle-wonderful. Icewhiz has been thawed. Either an in-state loss or out-of-state win for team meta-4, I suppose. I didn't think that Icewhiz wrote on Jimbotalk with the intention of sticking around (at least not with his current Wikipuddlian ID), but that was just my impression as an occasional drama reader. I read while writing this that it was posted after ArbCom had notified Icewhiz of his impending wikidoom. I expect Wails' tweet about private schools will probably get re-surfaced, because popcorn.

Тихий_Дон (T-H-L)

sir this is a wendy's

[Bezdomni]

sir this is a wendy's

Sorry for chewing my fries too loud. So my choice is a chili or a frosty?

recommendation

No, Marek, at least not as such. Just stealing the title because it made me smile. I've had vol.2 on my shelf for ages. Never could get enthused about starting mid-stream.

[Vigilant]

For what it's worth, I believe Icewhiz being indeffed is a good thing for Wikipedia. He was always a disruptive and combative editor, and generally a cunning dick. The twitter account (likely his, but we will never know) shows a deeply disturbed mind with a hardline agenda. My gut feeling says the account is his, and the posts there just show what kind of person he really is. Editing Wikipedia with all its civility et al guidelines must be unbearingly frustrating for such individuals. The case seems closed but I am 100% sure we will see Icewhiz coming back as some sock(meat)puppet.

Not going to disagree.
It would be nice to see that process was being followed so that every decision taken on en.wp isn't just Mad Max every damn time.

[Midsize Jake]

So the world is puddle-wonderful. Icewhiz has been thawed. Either an in-state loss or out-of-state win for team meta-4, I suppose. I didn't think that Icewhiz wrote on Jimbotalk with the intention of sticking around, really, but that was just my impression as an occasional drama reader. I read while writing this that it was posted after ArbCom had notified Icewhiz of his impending wikidoom. I expect Wails' tweet about private schools will probably get re-surfaced, because popcorn.

Тихий_Дон (T-H-L)

As is often the case, I have no idea what you're going on about, but I did want to endorse your recommendation if that's what it is - that's a great book.

As you probably know, I've recently completed my post-grad-level coursework in Bezdomni Forum-Post Interpretation, with an eye towards possibly using it in my Ph.D. dissertation sometime next week. So I believe what he's saying here is that it's unfortunate that Mr. Icewhiz wasn't able to restrain himself from his recent extreme levels of either insanely-exaggerated or completely false disparagement against his perceived Wikipedia enemies (most notably you, Mr. Marek), because if he had been able to, he might yet be a reliable and useful anti-anti-semitic voice in the WP sphere. It's a fair point, but the fact remains that too many Wikipedians still completely lose their shit when thwarted, as he (Mr. Icewhiz) clearly did.

I'd assume Mr. Bezdomni didn't want to state this in plain English because he just wants to see how well I've been doing at school lately. Also, I suspect that he secretly hates me.

[ConsciousBook]

It is quite extraordinary that Icewhiz has been banned while Volunteer Marek still continues to edit Wikipedia even though he said:

"Icewhiz's POV however goes far beyond that and displays some weird obsession with shitting on Poland and portraying it in... not even "mostly", but actually "exclusively", negative light."

"...1) Fuck. You. ...a sleazy weasel...horribly and utterly sleazy, dishonest and scummy... this fucking asshole needs to be banned. Now."

[Randy from Boise]

I was impressed by these fun !so-stalky toys team Poland has been tinkering. (DOI h/t Isaac) We had a link to something similar on here earlier, that pairs reference numbers to length, number of images, number of sections, etc. When they start studying and standardizing refs, that's when I'll be really impressed though.

For historical values of polularity and AI WikiRank used data from 2002 to 2019.

AI = author interest

Encrusted bloviations like Criticism of Wikipedia, (probably not the best example, but an example), do better in their quality algorithm than the more streamlined Sultanate of Singora. The latter got dinged for not having enough pictures. The Signpost article, too, does pretty well for itself (and it doesn't even have a magic carpet, though it was Quack Guru who started it before Cirt got to it.)

So the world is puddle-wonderful. Icewhiz has been thawed. Either an in-state loss or out-of-state win for team meta-4, I suppose. I didn't think that Icewhiz wrote on Jimbotalk with the intention of sticking around, really, but that was just my impression as an occasional drama reader. I read while writing this that it was posted after ArbCom had notified Icewhiz of his impending wikidoom. I expect Wails' tweet about private schools will probably get re-surfaced, because popcorn.

Тихий_Дон (T-H-L)

As is often the case, I have no idea what you're going on about, but I did want to endorse your recommendation if that's what it is - that's a great book.

A Stalin Prize winner!

RfB

[Randy from Boise]

It is quite extraordinary that Icewhiz has been banned while Volunteer Marek still continues to edit Wikipedia even though he said:

"Icewhiz's POV however goes far beyond that and displays some weird obsession with shitting on Poland and portraying it in... not even "mostly", but actually "exclusively", negative light."

"...1) Fuck. You. ...a sleazy weasel...horribly and utterly sleazy, dishonest and scummy... this fucking asshole needs to be banned. Now."

A little context...

Hey Icewhiz - if you ARE accusing me of "Holocaust denial/distortion" then 1) Fuck. You. and 2) have the fucking guts to say it outright rather than insinuating it like a sleazy weasel. Are you?

This way of presenting the request is horribly and utterly sleazy, dishonest and scummy. Either he is accusing me or he isn't. If he is, he needs to fucking say it. If he's not, he needs to make that clear as well (and strike that implicit accusation) as that's one helluva serious charge. Indeed, making such an accusation without backing it up is '''grounds for an indef ban''' on its own.

And if he is accusing me of something like that then he, and whoever takes the charge serious can go to fucking hell. You don't get to lie about people like that. I have not done anything remotely justifying such an accusation and neither Icewhiz nor anyone else here really knows anything about me, what my actual ethnic background is, what happened to MY FUCKING FAMILY during WW2 and the Holocaust or anything related. THIS is why I am using strong language here because it is more than justified. If this is the accusation then this fucking asshole needs to be banned. Now.

Fighting words (T-H-L)

RfB

[Black Kite]

It is quite extraordinary that Icewhiz has been banned while Volunteer Marek still continues to edit Wikipedia even though he said:

"...1) Fuck. You. ...a sleazy weasel...horribly and utterly sleazy, dishonest and scummy... this fucking asshole needs to be banned. Now."

If I believed someone had falsely accused me of Holocaust denial I strongly suspect my reply would have contained most of those words. "Fuck you" would certainly have been the opening couplet.

[ConsciousBook]

If I believed someone had falsely accused me of Holocaust denial I strongly suspect my reply would have contained most of those words. "Fuck you" would certainly have been the opening couplet.

But IceWhiz copiously and comprehensively proved his point, and Volunteer Marek responded with expletives, incivility, and threats. But Volunteer Marek continues to edit unmolested while Icewhiz was banned without any proof to support the allegation that he engaged in harassment off of Wikipedia.

Volunteer Marek has habitually restored/inserted hateful material unsupported by citations. He restored, "Soviet-armed Jewish militiamen helped NKVD agents send Polish families into exile"

He characterized descriptions of anti-Semitism in Poland as "It's a COATRACK for the whole disgusting and racist "Poles are anti-semities" POV into this article." -- this is hateful, revisionist sentiment characteristic of Poland's anti-Semitic far right.

[Volunteer Marek]

If I believed someone had falsely accused me of Holocaust denial I strongly suspect my reply would have contained most of those words. "Fuck you" would certainly have been the opening couplet.

But IceWhiz copiously and comprehensively proved his point, and Volunteer Marek responded with expletives, incivility, and threats. But Volunteer Marek continues to edit unmolested while Icewhiz was banned without any proof to support the allegation that he engaged in harassment off of Wikipedia.

Volunteer Marek has habitually restored/inserted hateful material unsupported by citations. He restored, "Soviet-armed Jewish militiamen helped NKVD agents send Polish families into exile"

He characterized descriptions of anti-Semitism in Poland as "It's a COATRACK for the whole disgusting and racist "Poles are anti-semities" POV into this article." -- this is hateful, revisionist sentiment characteristic of Poland's anti-Semitic far right.

Oh he didn't prove shit, copiously or otherwise. Your shtick got tiresome more than eight years ago Jacob Peters.

[Volunteer Marek]

BTW, Icewhiz posted a description of his communication with ArbCom on his WikiCommons account. I like his response to them. When he was asked if he was behind the twitter account his response was:

"It might be unlikely"

I mean... ... ... Even for a guy as weaselly as him that sets a new standard.

[GizzyCatBella]

There is a certain way Icewhiz is lettering that gives him away. I was analyzing that for a quite time now. I am convinced that a person behind the twitter account is him unless somebody was precise in imitating it. Extremely dubious.

[Tommy]

There is a certain way Icewhiz is lettering that gives him away. I was analyzing that for a quite time now. I am convinced that a person behind the twitter account is him unless somebody was precise in imitating it. Extremely dubious.

Please spill the beans Bella, the secret letter combos will interest the forum.

[ShinkawaGirl]

More likely to be E.M.Gregory than Icewhiz

[ShinkawaGirl]

There is a certain way Icewhiz is lettering that gives him away. I was analyzing that for a quite time now. I am convinced that a person behind the twitter account is him unless somebody was precise in imitating it. Extremely dubious.

think it is E.M.Gregory who was indef blocked

[Ryuichi]

There is a certain way Icewhiz is lettering that gives him away. I was analyzing that for a quite time now. I am convinced that a person behind the twitter account is him unless somebody was precise in imitating it. Extremely dubious.

Lettering (T-H-L) does not appear to mean what it seems to be used for in that first sentence. Perhaps Confirmation bias (T-H-L) is more apropos?

[Parabola]

There is a certain way Icewhiz is lettering that gives him away. I was analyzing that for a quite time now. I am convinced that a person behind the twitter account is him unless somebody was precise in imitating it. Extremely dubious.

Please spill the beans Bella, the secret letter combos will interest the forum.

oh good, the weirdo stalker is here, this party can really get started now

[GizzyCatBella]

There is a certain way Icewhiz is lettering that gives him away. I was analyzing that for a quite time now. I am convinced that a person behind the twitter account is him unless somebody was precise in imitating it. Extremely dubious.

Lettering (T-H-L) does not appear to mean what it seems to be used for in that first sentence. Perhaps Confirmation bias (T-H-L) is more apropos?

+sentence structure+

[Tommy]

There is a certain way Icewhiz is lettering that gives him away. I was analyzing that for a quite time now. I am convinced that a person behind the twitter account is him unless somebody was precise in imitating it. Extremely dubious.

Lettering (T-H-L) does not appear to mean what it seems to be used for in that first sentence. Perhaps Confirmation bias (T-H-L) is more apropos?

+sentence structure+

Possibly common among people with the same cultural, linguistic, and educational background ?

Oxford Union members who grew up in a multilingual environment and can speak more than half a dozen languages probably share morphological traits.

[Tommy]

So the world is puddle-wonderful. Icewhiz has been thawed. Either an in-state loss or out-of-state win for team meta-4, I suppose. I didn't think that Icewhiz wrote on Jimbotalk with the intention of sticking around (at least not with his current Wikipuddlian ID), but that was just my impression as an occasional drama reader. I read while writing this that it was posted after ArbCom had notified Icewhiz of his impending wikidoom. I expect Wails' tweet about private schools will probably get re-surfaced, because popcorn.

Astute analysis. How will this block be viewed in off-Wikipedia press when coupled with historians decrying the distorted state of Holocaust material on Wikipedia?

It is a bad look for Wikipedia authorities - they had a guy fixing it, they T-banned him for daring to complain since the act of complaining on Holocaust distortion insinuated those who authored the dodgy content to begin with were Holocaust deniers. When he dared to appeal to Jimbo, accusing the committee of misconduct, the committee banned him based on private evidence (on a very public Twitter account). Franz Kafka is chuckling.

[GizzyCatBella]

There is a certain way Icewhiz is lettering that gives him away. I was analyzing that for a quite time now. I am convinced that a person behind the twitter account is him unless somebody was precise in imitating it. Extremely dubious.

Lettering (T-H-L) does not appear to mean what it seems to be used for in that first sentence. Perhaps Confirmation bias (T-H-L) is more apropos?

+sentence structure+

Possibly common among people with the same cultural, linguistic, and educational background ?

Oxford Union members who grew up in a multilingual environment and can speak more than half a dozen languages probably share morphological traits.

words, give me words frost Tommy

[Bezdomni]

BTW, I saw that Lev & GW got into it after she threw her tool down on his page and said in essence "stop saying stuff" about the off-wiki world. WO in particular as it turns out. I haven't read all the old links (I never went to ANI to see the 1000+ contributions that GW deleted. ^^). It seems all that was due to the gas you left about him in your cell above, Mr. Marek. I didn't say anything about it; and Levivich knows that. I see that the outhouse I gave him has already been swept into the been. :sniff:

Don Jimbo's done writ, who might have been an unlikely Marek pocket-dweller.

I'd've thought that Tommy was the twit(terer), because the style seems similar. Tommy being IW had never been posited here before, at least that I'd read, so Lev is right to ask questions. In free-from-wikispeak, I think most reasonable people would have to conclude that they are playing for the same team or at the least have common objectives. But don't trust my impressions... assume nothing.

Oh, Volunteer? Would you be able to fix this citation needed tag at the end of the lede, by any chance? I think that's well outside your forbidden whaling zone.

[Poetlister]

As is often the case, I have no idea what you're going on about, but I did want to endorse your recommendation if that's what it is - that's a great book.

A Stalin Prize winner!

RfB

Is that a recommendation or a condemnation?

[Volunteer Marek]

There is a certain way Icewhiz is lettering that gives him away. I was analyzing that for a quite time now. I am convinced that a person behind the twitter account is him unless somebody was precise in imitating it. Extremely dubious.

think it is E.M.Gregory who was indef blocked

Neither E.M.Gregory nor our friend Tommy has the in-depth knowledge or expertise, particularly with regard to Poland and the Holocaust, to pull this off. E.M.Gregory was only peripherally involved in Poland related topics and Tommy... Tommy has trouble faking being Tommy here on Wikipediocracy, I don't think he could fake being Jewish on twitter. The twitter account covers Poland and the Holocaust, UK politics and Jeremy Corbyn, Israel-Palestine, and US Politics (Trump). Icewhiz is actually the only person on Wikipedia afaik that manages this quadrifecta and the twitter hits his POV on the nose. It just simply can't be anyone else but him and there's individual tweets that can be easily linked to his on Wiki activity.

That and he pretty much admits it on Wiki Commons with his non-denial denial so the point is kinda moot.

[Tommy]

There is a certain way Icewhiz is lettering that gives him away. I was analyzing that for a quite time now. I am convinced that a person behind the twitter account is him unless somebody was precise in imitating it. Extremely dubious.

think it is E.M.Gregory who was indef blocked

Neither E.M.Gregory nor our friend Tommy has the in-depth knowledge or expertise, particularly with regard to Poland and the Holocaust, to pull this off. E.M.Gregory was only peripherally involved in Poland related topics and Tommy... Tommy has trouble faking being Tommy here on Wikipediocracy, I don't think he could fake being Jewish on twitter. The twitter account covers Poland and the Holocaust, UK politics and Jeremy Corbyn, Israel-Palestine, and US Politics (Trump). Icewhiz is actually the only person on Wikipedia afaik that manages this quadrifecta and the twitter hits his POV on the nose. It just simply can't be anyone else but him and there's individual tweets that can be easily linked to his on Wiki activity.

That and he pretty much admits it on Wiki Commons with his non-denial denial so the point is kinda moot.

Ain't right to confirm or deny when they are just fishing, VM. You know that. You just end up being the snitch for next fall guy.

I'm pretty sure VM could pull off that twitter account. He'd just have to switch from far-right to far-left on Poland, from far-left to center on American politics, from left to right on Israel, and from whatever VM is on Corbyn to right-wing UK. A little switchero and ya got it nailed.

[Randy from Boise]

As is often the case, I have no idea what you're going on about, but I did want to endorse your recommendation if that's what it is - that's a great book.

A Stalin Prize winner!

RfB

Is that a recommendation or a condemnation?

Just a fun fact!

t

[Bezdomni]

BTW, Icewhiz posted a description of his communication with ArbCom on his WikiCommons account. I like his response to them. When he was asked if he was behind the twitter account his response was:

"It might be unlikely"

lol. Add marked intonation to "might" and finish the sentence (link) and you might let the reader understand the sentence. I noticed RfB added a copia of context (in all its glory) to your greatest shits album and even that didn't cure you of clipping people mid-sentence.

Whoever this WJ is though, a couple of Wiki-leeks definitely turned their stomach(s). Isn't the much-loved pre-T&S boss over at twitter now?

[Midsize Jake]

lol. Add marked intonation to "might" and finish the sentence (link) and you might let the reader understand the sentence. I noticed RfB added a copia of context (in all its glory) to your greatest shits album and even that didn't cure you of clipping people mid-sentence.

Okay, let's have a look at the whole thing, complete with the inappropriate line breaks:

My sole communication with the English ARBCOM, was an e-mail sent to me on 29 September containing two sentences:

• I'm emailing on behalf of the Arbitration Committee. It's been suggested to us that you are the owner of the "redacted" twitter account (redacted). Could you please comment on whether that is the case?

I responded to this with a short e-mail saying:

• I have requested a revdel on my page after it was posted there in violation of the outing policy.

• After that - On AN/I - I saw multiple different speculations as to who might be running this. I don't want to aid a fishing expedition.

• Considering that the twitter account - REDACTED

• thanked an AN/I commentator for a lead (on 24 September) regarding an AE thread - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... =917169402

• I was in involved in on 22 September and 20 September.

• It might be unlikely that me and him are the same.

I then received on 1 October another two liner:

• The Arbitration Committee has seen sufficient links between your wikipedia account and the REDACTED twitter account that it has been convinced that you are running it. The twitter account has been used to harass multiple Wikipedians, and so the committee is blocking you indefinitely

In short - nothing much of evidence has been offered to me, nor much of a chance to refute.

You'd think Mr. Icewhiz would be smart enough to know that words "might be" could easily be misconstrued there, especially by anyone with any interest at all in tying him to the "JewWiki" Twitter account. But we should remember that Icewhiz sees himself as the (only) virtuous one in this affair, and people who break rules in the name of virtuous causes will often use glib or deceptive language to avoid outright lying, mostly so that their consciences are clear afterwards. This can occur even when the person would seem to have nothing to lose (personally or otherwise) by outright lying.

The other thing that might strike some people as a kind of inherent contradiction, namely the fact that the account's name, "@JewWiki" (the display name is "WikiJew") might seem to be pejorative but actually isn't. He's doing this because this is Twitter, and he wants to be the first auto-complete result on a username search when someone types in the words "Wiki" and "Jew" in Twitter's search box. (Try it, it works very nicely.) If anything, that might actually reinforce the notion that this is Mr. Icewhiz.

In short, given some of the tweets I've been seeing, I can certainly see how someone might conclude that this is Mr. Icewhiz, whether or not James Alexander surreptitiously sent Twitter IP and Browser-tag info to someone in WMF's T&S department (or even directly to Arbcom). Personally, I think it should be enough to justify a lengthy block, but of course I thought that at the outset, based on the personal attacks and accusations he was making before the case started. So ehh, whatever.