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by Konveyor Belt
Fri Apr 26, 2024 10:13 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Framming
Replies: 21
Views: 638

Re: Framming

I don't know if disrespectful is the right term, but if I was Fram I'm not sure I'd be happy about "Framming" becoming a word. It does kind of single him out as the only person brave enough to do this sort of thing, which does not sound very appealing. I mean sure, it might mean that some people res...
by Konveyor Belt
Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:15 am
Forum: Blog Posts
Topic: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
Replies: 818
Views: 30950

Re: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty

In this case I do agree with Floq that the thread was an attempt to seek some sort of sanction. Starting a thread on AN/ANI is always an attempt at a sanction, whether or not you explicitly call for one in the OP or not. As a few users there pointed out, if you wanted to discuss Dennis Brown's opini...
by Konveyor Belt
Sat Apr 20, 2024 6:41 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Coolest Wikipedia user names
Replies: 22
Views: 752

Re: Coolest Wikipedia user names

Will forever be upset that the name Gnome de plume (T-C-L) was wasted on a sock.
by Konveyor Belt
Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:07 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: The rise and fall of a Wikipedia General
Replies: 38
Views: 1822

Re: The rise and fall of a Wikipedia General

It's funny that a faction of Arbs are seemingly embracing IAR and circumventing standard procedure given that they just kicked out the Arb who embraced IAR the most, in Beeblebrox/JSS. The difference is that Beeblebrox used IAR to help the common man whereas they just want to use it to keep their bu...
by Konveyor Belt
Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:03 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: In real terms, Wikipedia are down 14 Administrators in the last year
Replies: 70
Views: 2900

Re: In real terms, Wikipedia are down 14 Administrators in the last year

There was also the case of Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Trappist the monk (T-H-L) where he had to request adminship solely to edit citation style templates.
by Konveyor Belt
Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:48 pm
Forum: Sexism
Topic: Deathly Shallows: Wikipedia's coverage of JK Rowling
Replies: 38
Views: 1245

Re: Deathly Shallows: Wikipedia's coverage of JK Rowling

Newspapers are well known to have an anti-Trans bias... I know there was the big story about the New York Times having an anti-trans bias, but is it fair to generalize about this by saying it's "newspapers" and not just the NYT (and, presumably, other even more right-wing-friendly outlets)? I don't...
by Konveyor Belt
Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:59 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Crap articles
Replies: 4421
Views: 822736

Re: Crap articles

You do pick the silliest windmills to tilt at sometimes. What are we supposed to do, pretend that suicide doesn't exist?
by Konveyor Belt
Tue Apr 16, 2024 3:14 am
Forum: Sexism
Topic: Deathly Shallows: Wikipedia's coverage of JK Rowling
Replies: 38
Views: 1245

Re: Deathly Shallows: Wikipedia's coverage of JK Rowling

Spacebook, be careful if you live in the UK and want to add anything that might be considered negative in your rewrite, otherwise she might send you a legal threat.
by Konveyor Belt
Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:06 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Answer these three questions about a random Wikipedia article and win a car
Replies: 188
Views: 1882

Re: Answer these three questions about a random Wikipedia article and win a car

National Anthem of El Salvador (T-H-L)

1. Yes

2. No, a lot of the citations are Youtube videos.

3. No, I would assume there's a Spanish-language resource with more information out there.
by Konveyor Belt
Sat Apr 13, 2024 6:46 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Who are the Wikipediocracy Posters?
Replies: 23
Views: 947

Re: Who are the Wikipediocracy Posters?

It would be interesting to do a census of sorts here on Wikipediocracy. Ask if they actively edit Wikipedia, how much they edit etc. with some optional demographic questions about age, gender, etc.
by Konveyor Belt
Sat Apr 13, 2024 6:07 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: Venezuelan politics Arbcom case
Replies: 11
Views: 639

Re: Venezuelan politics Arbcom case

While it does appear that ZiaLater has a legitimate connection to Venezuela, I suspect for others it's easy to use Venezuelan politics as a proxy for American politics, particularly to escape scrutiny and sanctions that might come in the more heavily moderated American politics area.
by Konveyor Belt
Sat Apr 13, 2024 6:00 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: In real terms, Wikipedia are down 14 Administrators in the last year
Replies: 70
Views: 2900

Re: In real terms, Wikipedia are down 14 Administrators in the last year

I remain convinced, as I always was, that en.wiki doesn't need a shit tonne of admins. But it has always needed a mix of admins both in backgrounds and attitudes (including some softies to offset the hardasses) and in the kinds of tasks they do. Do you think that adding all the additional roles lik...
by Konveyor Belt
Tue Apr 09, 2024 6:42 am
Forum: The Money Trail
Topic: Btphelps gets indignant about his COIs
Replies: 33
Views: 1457

Re: Let's talk about BSA editors

Boy Scouts of America went basically co-ed in the 2010s. Though I see stuff about separate girls' troops. In fact on this they lag the original organisation: what's now called The Scout Association allowed admission of girls at all levels in 1991 and made it mandatory in 2007 . (Too lazy to cite be...
by Konveyor Belt
Sat Apr 06, 2024 7:10 am
Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
Topic: The Wikipedia monster gleefully tears down the future Queen of England
Replies: 205
Views: 6004

Re: The Wikipedia monster gleefully tears down the future Queen of England

I was just looking at that discussion, against my better judgment. Why is the article Where is Kate? redirected to Where is Kate? ?? Because the question mark is considered a special symbol when it appears at the end of a URL because your browser/Wikipedia thinks it's part of a Query string and ign...
by Konveyor Belt
Fri Apr 05, 2024 1:18 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Commons photographer demanding payment for images lacking correct attribution
Replies: 11
Views: 536

Re: Commons photographer demanding payment for images lacking correct attribution

On one hand if I had taken good photographs and uploaded them to Commons under a copyleft license to do a nice thing, it would be quite annoying for people to not in turn do the right thing and give me credit. In the case of Mr. Iliff his status as a professional photographer makes getting his name ...
by Konveyor Belt
Wed Apr 03, 2024 7:50 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: Backdoor PROJSOCK spooks I/P CT editors ARBPIA 5? incoming?
Replies: 24
Views: 1535

Re: Backdoor PROJSOCK spooks I/P CT editors ARBPIA 5? incoming?

The account's EC permissions have been revoked. Good job by ARBCOM as usual on this one. :banana:
by Konveyor Belt
Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:07 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Oldest hoax yet, discovered
Replies: 18
Views: 948

Re: Oldest hoax yet, discovered

I feel like these "niche artist/author/athlete" article types are the easiest to allow to fly under the radar despite being completely fake. Wikipedia's got thousands of permastubs about technically notable subjects whose online documentation is practically nil, so I suppose people just figured it ...
by Konveyor Belt
Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:05 am
Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
Topic: The Wikipedia monster gleefully tears down the future Queen of England
Replies: 205
Views: 6004

Re: The Wikipedia monster gleefully tears down the future Queen of England

Meanwhile on ANI some people think SergeWoodzing (T-C-L) is being a bit dramatic about the whole thing.
by Konveyor Belt
Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:38 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Wikipedia's worst sentences
Replies: 1090
Views: 617362

Re: Wikipedia's worst sentences

Annapolis, Maryland (T-H-L)
Annapolis is the capital city of the U.S. state of Maryland and the county seat of, and only incorporated city in, Anne Arundel County.
I see how they got here but it's still awkward wording.
by Konveyor Belt
Sat Mar 23, 2024 12:23 am
Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
Topic: The Wikipedia monster gleefully tears down the future Queen of England
Replies: 205
Views: 6004

Re: The Wikipedia monster gleefully tears down the future Queen of England

I am considering locking this topic. I think the subject of the topic will continue to be relevant in the near future as various discussions play out onwiki and it would be nice to have a place to talk about that. If it appears to be an unproductive thread thus far, there's really only one user in ...
by Konveyor Belt
Tue Mar 19, 2024 4:13 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Foundation board member James Heilman is forking Wikipedia
Replies: 111
Views: 6342

Re: Foundation board member James Heilman is forking Wikipedia

It looks like mdwiki has lost steam. 50 most recent changes in 30 days: https://mdwiki.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges?limit=50&days=30&enhanced=1&urlversion=2 Looks like about 20. Next up: RoadsWIki or whatever that autism factory is. Looks busier: https://wiki.aaroads.com/wiki/Special:RecentChange...
by Konveyor Belt
Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:21 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: Eostrix, current RfA candidate, ArbComBlocked as a sock of Icewhiz
Replies: 312
Views: 20141

Re: Eostrix, current RfA candidate, ArbComBlocked as a sock of Icewhiz

C&B wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 4:41 pm
Yes, perhaps the kernel to a blog post?
Yeah I'd like to clean it up and make it one soon.
by Konveyor Belt
Sat Mar 16, 2024 1:07 pm
Forum: Governance
Topic: Eostrix, current RfA candidate, ArbComBlocked as a sock of Icewhiz
Replies: 312
Views: 20141

Re: Eostrix, current RfA candidate, ArbComBlocked as a sock of Icewhiz

Out of curiosity I googled "buy Wikipedia account" and immediately fell down a rabbithole. Here's someone selling a 4000 edit account for $1500 back in February 2022 on Swapd, a site for buying accounts and other virtual PR services. It has screenshots of their XTools page and a very cropped screens...
by Konveyor Belt
Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:03 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: Eostrix, current RfA candidate, ArbComBlocked as a sock of Icewhiz
Replies: 312
Views: 20141

Re: Eostrix, current RfA candidate, ArbComBlocked as a sock of Icewhiz

I have this crazy theory that somewhere out there there is a black web group that raise sock accounts for a few months then sell them to other parties which need well developed wiki accounts for various nefarious plots. The dedication to run such accounts, again and again, for months, before burnin...
by Konveyor Belt
Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:43 am
Forum: Blog Posts
Topic: Guidelines for submitting blog posts
Replies: 24
Views: 35466

Re: Guidelines for submitting blog posts

Yep, all sorted now, thanks. Do we think that the comments are still worthwhile? These days, the discussion in the thread is much more lively, so maybe it's better to point people towards that? One news site I visit (TechPowerUp.com) has a system where the comments under their articles are mirrored...
by Konveyor Belt
Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:00 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Brooke Vibber Day
Replies: 11
Views: 546

Re: Brooke Vibber Day

Don't quite see what the point of this thread is.
by Konveyor Belt
Thu Mar 14, 2024 4:32 pm
Forum: Blog Posts
Topic: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
Replies: 818
Views: 30950

Re: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty

Fram there is an argument the scope should be broader than it is right now and better capture the BYU issue. I asked ArbCom if it wanted to do that (I abstained given a part I played in a discussion of the COI of one such editor 3 years ago) and for now the answer is no. Barkeep49 (talk) 10:47, 14 ...
by Konveyor Belt
Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:33 am
Forum: Blog Posts
Topic: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
Replies: 818
Views: 30950

Re: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty

Editing your employer's or your company's article is over the line. Done. Dennis, I agree except for one thing. I don’t think any editor with a COI should edit articles directly. All conflicted editors should use talk pages instead.. I actually don't particularly have an issue with COI editors edit...
by Konveyor Belt
Sat Mar 09, 2024 2:46 pm
Forum: Blog Posts
Topic: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
Replies: 818
Views: 30950

Re: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty

Owning stock should be one of the clearest violations of COI that there is. Market manipulation is serious fucking business. If it wasn't COI we'd get all kinds of people creating company pages so they could do pump and dumps and we'd just have to allow it.
by Konveyor Belt
Fri Mar 08, 2024 5:17 pm
Forum: Blog Posts
Topic: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
Replies: 818
Views: 30950

Re: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty

A new editor submitting evidence in his very first edit. It's a bold strategy, Cotton, let's see if it pays off for him.
by Konveyor Belt
Fri Mar 08, 2024 5:14 pm
Forum: Blog Posts
Topic: Pardon My French (Court Case)
Replies: 31
Views: 4443

Re: Pardon My French (Court Case)

Giraffe Stapler wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:53 pm
My contacts in the NSA tell me that the latest false nose is Duc d'Anjou.
If it quacs like a duc.....
by Konveyor Belt
Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:16 pm
Forum: Blog Posts
Topic: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
Replies: 818
Views: 30950

Re: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty

The Megathread has now been archived. The community has (willingly it seems) given up its chance to do anything with this new information that is now squarely in the public domain as Wikipedia defines it. If you really thought anything constructive was ever going to come out of that AN thread, I've...
by Konveyor Belt
Wed Mar 06, 2024 12:53 pm
Forum: Governance
Topic: In real terms, Wikipedia are down 14 Administrators in the last year
Replies: 70
Views: 2900

Re: In real terms, Wikipedia are down 14 Administrators in the last year

For tables with total counts of administrative actions, Wikipedia:ADMINSTATS One of my bots is by far the top user for history merges, and I rank #2, as the top human for history merges. There are a lot of public logs , most you've probably never heard of. The User merge log has all of two logged a...
by Konveyor Belt
Wed Mar 06, 2024 10:23 am
Forum: Blog Posts
Topic: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
Replies: 818
Views: 30950

Re: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty

But don't blame the slow turning of the wheels of the process on an indolent peasantry. ArbCom IS the mechanism to detool Administrators for cause; and it is unfathomable to detool a Bureaucrat any other way. ..... That's the miss. The deference is the only reason you believe this to be true. You m...
by Konveyor Belt
Tue Mar 05, 2024 11:52 am
Forum: Blog Posts
Topic: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
Replies: 818
Views: 30950

Re: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty

And out of nowhere, Nihonjoe drops a list of declared COIs ..... This is why private cases are bullshit. What are we supposed to make of this? Well for a start, Jessintime has already pointed out that Nihonjoe denied a connection to D.J. Butler just a week ago but is now including him in the list. ...
by Konveyor Belt
Mon Mar 04, 2024 2:37 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Wikipedia's worst sentences
Replies: 1090
Views: 617362

Re: Wikipedia's worst sentences

American Realism (T-H-L)
From the late 19th to the early 20th centuries, the United States experienced huge industrial, economic, social and cultural change.
No shit!
by Konveyor Belt
Mon Mar 04, 2024 2:34 pm
Forum: Blog Posts
Topic: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
Replies: 818
Views: 30950

Re: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty

It should be the higher the status the lesser the crime to attract the same sanction. Except this a cult, not a rational organization, and thus the higher the status the greater the crime has to be to even be noticed. Get with the program. The implication of this is that Wikipediocracy should conce...
by Konveyor Belt
Mon Mar 04, 2024 7:22 am
Forum: Blog Posts
Topic: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
Replies: 818
Views: 30950

Re: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty

My read on the whole situation is that ArbCom fucked up by not doing anything sooner. Somebody, or perhaps a few people, made the guess that it would all blow over silently so there was no need to get involved. Unfortunately for them that's just not how it works. Despite how many people think of thi...
by Konveyor Belt
Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:32 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Dicklyon
Replies: 83
Views: 5494

Re: Dicklyon

Now at AN, where opinion seems to be split.
by Konveyor Belt
Mon Feb 26, 2024 10:00 pm
Forum: Blog Posts
Topic: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty
Replies: 818
Views: 30950

Re: Nihonjoe Has Been Naughty

As usual with any leak or disclosure, people get focused on who leaked it and how it can be prevented again rather than addressing the real issues that necessitated the leak. It's all too easy to play civility politics and be a stooge in these situations.
by Konveyor Belt
Sat Feb 24, 2024 7:09 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: SMcCandlish
Replies: 24
Views: 1386

Re: SMcCandlish

My take which nobody will care about is that NFL draft should refer to the actual drafting process while NFL Draft should refer to the event at which it is held. So you might say "he was taken in the 6th round of the 1977 NFL draft" but also "he was interviewed by the media at the NFL Draft".
by Konveyor Belt
Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:53 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: Content Policy Committee
Replies: 11
Views: 593

Re: Content Policy Committee

Out of almost 25,000 edits this guy has just 47 to Wikipedia space, which might explain why the proposal seems a bit out of left field. Respect for trying though, even if this one wouldn't work we need more bold ideas to fix Wikipedia.
by Konveyor Belt
Fri Feb 23, 2024 4:57 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: Content Policy Committee
Replies: 11
Views: 593

Re: Content Policy Committee

While it's perfectly fine to use a limited group to resolve behavioral issues (as in admins and ArbCom), content has always been determined by user consensus, and I don't really see a reason why that needs to change.
by Konveyor Belt
Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:48 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: News from RFA
Replies: 1033
Views: 519110

Re: News from RFA

Either AE "suffers from chronic under-participation" or it's "infested" – it can't be both; those seem like opposite extremes. This definitely isn't true. It's infested with bad actors and power hungry admins specifically because it suffers from chronic under-participation from the admins who actua...
by Konveyor Belt
Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:09 pm
Forum: Governance
Topic: News from RFA
Replies: 1033
Views: 519110

Re: News from RFA

Having some sort of new "lesser" admin would only increase the reliance on established shithead admins that already infest AE, ANI, and other places.
by Konveyor Belt
Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:57 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Is IP editing a good thing? (please vote)
Replies: 55
Views: 1854

Re: Is IP editing a good thing? (please vote)

I'd like to think there is a parallel universe somewhere where the 'Wikipedia' equivalent insisted from the start on registration as a verifiable, named 'real world' person. Would it be better? I'd guess so, but I can't say for sure. It would certainly be very different. I wasn't on the Internet wh...
by Konveyor Belt
Fri Feb 16, 2024 7:17 pm
Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
Topic: Remove the libelous and false information or delete my article immediately.
Replies: 32
Views: 976

Re: Remove the libelous and false information or delete my article immediately.

I hate when people weigh in on AfDs with comments indicating the article should be deleted but instead of saying DELETE they say COMMENT or something else. Serial fence sitters are a pain in the ass. There's a tool that tracks your AFD !votes and gives you the percentage that your vote lines up wit...
by Konveyor Belt
Fri Feb 16, 2024 8:03 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Is IP editing a good thing? (please vote)
Replies: 55
Views: 1854

Re: Is IP editing a good thing? (please vote)

I rarely go on Wikipedia for the sole purpose of making mainspace edits these days, but I read it enough in other contexts that I occasionally see errors and fix them. That's pretty close to what a random constructive IP editor would do. The thing is that having an account provides me with many bene...