Wikipediocracy

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (T-H-L) had a redirect created in her name in August 2017 regarding her status as a congressional candidate and has had a standalone article since 27 June 2018.

Agreed she probably could have had more of an article earlier but the same could be said about a lot of people.

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But there is still the broader issue of whether Wayback links should be allowed on Wikipedia at all, and specifically in BLPs. I can at least imagine a few cases in which I think they might be useful. Unfortunately, I have trouble thinking of any specific nameable incidents. But for information on ...

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You can presumably email the ArbCom or San Francisco and say that the link contains damaging or false information about a living person and that as such it might have BLP issues and should be removed. I don't know whether that would necessarily work and get the link removed of course.

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Google shows the existence of an Encyclopedia of World War II edited by Spencer Tucker, with others by Alan Axelrod and John Keegan, a Complete Encyclopedia of World War II, a Historical Encyclopedia of World War II, an Oxford Companion to World War II, all rather quickly. I think it should be possi...

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A separate thread or index section on public figures discussing their BLPs might be interesting and increase traffic. I'm sure Lydia Cornell, who has been arguing about her age for some time, might be one of maybe several who might be interested in fixing their bios.

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Determining the amount of space to give this topic in various articles which may not particularly relate strongly to it will likely be a never ending dispute. It will also almost certainly be a long standing source of friction in the main articles on the war, given the number of thepretical first le...

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And the discussion continues, now at theWikipedia:Fringe theories/noticeboard (T-H-L) in the section not inappropriately called "Gunter Bechly again."

At this point, I think a review of this matter made up to date might make a good blog piece.

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... It's also worth mentioning that the Military history project has largely been drama free with a positive reputation and fairly strong group of editors. That group of editors has been decreasing steadily though and a big contentious case like this could seriously damage the projects credibility ...

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Their super high-tech ad software decided that the Muppet wiki was a great place to advertise condoms. There are just so many things wrong about this that I doubt I could even identify them all. Kermit with a condom is the kind of disturbing and disturbed image that I could see Jim Henson rising up...

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The fact that something hasn't lately happened isn't really good evidence that it will never happen again, particularly if an editor is just flat out toxic to others and to the project as a whole. Hijiri88 comes to mind as an example. I myself don't really expect him or anyone else to necessarily be...

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This will almost certainly increase the frequency of POV pushing vandalization of many many articles, and probably ridiculously overburden the few editors working on them. I honestly think that this might do wikipedia a hell of a lot more damage than it will help Facebook, so it might make sense for...

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I'm blocked - without a provided reason - not really banned. Speaking as someone who also is blocked without a rationally coherent provided reason which can be reasonably addressed, I salute you for being willing to subject yourself to more of the same in the future but am somewhat at a loss why yo...

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The philosophies of Wikisource and Wikipedia are to some extent in conflict. On Wikisource they tend to want the earliest published version, even if it has errors corrected in a later version. Thus there is some risk of these errors being perpetuated in Wikipedia if the Wikisource version is relied...

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I got banned again last year from en:Wikipedia for no apparent reason, courtesy of Fram, and need to appeal to Arbcom's mailinglist as it involves several privacy issues. However, nobody is home. No response to my plea, no message that my mail was rejected either. Any thoughts? One of the possibili...

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Personally I have no real objections to seeing activists and otherwise notable people covered in wikipedia, even if sometimes they might be barely or marginally notable. Just so long as they are notable. Activists are generally active about some specific topic, and the more central articles relatin...

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Anyone want to start a thread on ArbCom reform proposals? If it were structured in such a way as allow specific comments and responses to comments on a variety of proposals, maybe sort of like a mass RFC, that might have some value.

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Another factor, and I have said this many times before, is the WMF and the Wikipedia communities over reliance on the recruitment on busy college students at the beginnings of their lives and careers. What they should be doing is mixing in more recruitment of retirees who have tons of knowledge and...

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Personally I have no real objections to seeing activists and otherwise notable people covered in wikipedia, even if sometimes they might be barely or marginally notable. Just so long as they are notable. Activists are generally active about some specific topic, and the more central articles relating...

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It occurs to me that maybe Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red might be involved somehow. I also agree that it would probably be better if less emphasis were placed on making new articles than in making existing articles, which often are more important, better. But if I were involved in this I would ...

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Actually, at this point, except for some add-on links to images of previous PMs, the whole freaking first page of Google results is more or less about her.

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I'm not sure I would call the ultra Orthodox nutcases, at least not in public anyway, but I do find the idea of religious groups effectively mining wikipedia as a way to start the creation of a reference work dedicated to their faith interesting. It would probably be pointless for Catholics or mainl...

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I'd be interested in reading the samizdat version. RfB If the book definitely is not going to be published, it would be nice if Peter Damian could put the chapters online somewhere. I think there are a lot of members of this forum who'd like to read it, and that way all of the work he put into rese...

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Two more or less concrete proposals 1) add a blank form to the new thread section of the page which would allow the OP to indicate whether they think the topic is a simple matter, like one just requiring a block, or more complicated. 2) create a new user right for noticeboard clerks or similar whose...

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One of the comments in the AfD makes a comparison to Cassie Bernall and I tend to think that there will almost inevitably be a similar biography of this fellow, which probably will be sufficient to establish notability after the publication. But we could wait until then to generate a separate biogra...

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Muted. I guess I can see why some moderators wouldn't want to shut up someone who does make a few reasonable points. Having said that there does seem to be in the making the possibility of there being almost two sets of noticeboards for those who have been put on the enemies list by several others ...

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I love the fact that the big internet sites are trying to crack down on the fake news field but wonder to what extent it will actually work. There do seem to be particularly in the Trump camp according to that story a number of people who believe some of this b.s., and I suppose even if we do at som...

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By what policy do people claim that Wikipedia is a scientific encyclopedia? It's important to distinguish the assertion that the world is only about 6000 years old from Intelligent Design. A lot of people on both sides of the argument fail to do so. Of course, it might be possible to even put toget...

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Poetlister wrote:Would such a Google bot use this article as a reliable source for the date Wikipedia started?

Or know how easy it might be for some largish groups to maybe accentuate web sites giving their version of a particular matter and by so doing throw off the balance in their content?

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I can't disagree with either Klinghoffer or Sanger on this one, and, actually have been on the talk page more than a few times to indicate as much. There have been several questions to my eyes about even or particularly the lead, including an insistence on labelling ID as pseudoscience before saying...

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Now I'm off to worry about stewardship. A good steward is basically just someone who knows the information about a subject fairly well, has worked to improve the article, and keeps it on their watchlist and occasionally reverts vandalism or talks about questionable additions to an article. A bad st...

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There were a few other admins of the type you mention discussed before. And, honestly, there are only two real reasons to impose removal of adminship. One is incompetence or misuse of tools. I acknowledge policies and guidelines can change, even, as it were, under your feet. I remember a few that ch...

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There actually are a few valid reasons why an admin on Wikipedia may be inactive on Wikipedia. Being a temporarily more active editor on one of the other WMF entities comes to mind, particularly if it is a newer entity or with insufficient admins. There are many such reasons, ranging from activity ...

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There actually are a few valid reasons why an admin on Wikipedia may be inactive on Wikipedia. Being a temporarily more active editor on one of the other WMF entities comes to mind, particularly if it is a newer entity or with insufficient admins. Speaking just for myself, I wouldn't mind seeing the...

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On what might be a dubiously related point, does anyone know whether something like a substantial wikinews interview or feature story would qualify as one of the required evidences of notability? I remember some years ago seeing a fair number of topics in the broad religion field which I thought sh...

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This should probably merged into the RAN copyright thread, maybe with this comment from me removed.

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On what might be a dubiously related point, does anyone know whether something like a substantial wikinews interview or feature story would qualify as one of the required evidences of notability? I remember some years ago seeing a fair number of topics in the broad religion field which I thought sh...

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This kind of is one of those damned if you do, damned if you don't situations. If you waive notability requirements, hell, half the real people here might get bios and we would be at one billion unmanagable articles in English and counting within a year. If you don't several prominent popular person...

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Maybe a link to something other than a index page? You ask for evidences, I gave you the evidences of complete corruption inside WMF, and I have not any intention to start a discussion with someone who has no idea of legal matters, doesn't know the Dutch wikipedia, doesn't understand the Dutch lega...

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Maybe a link to something other than a index page? You ask for evidences, I gave you the evidences of complete corruption inside WMF, and I have not any intention to start a discussion with someone who has no idea of legal matters, doesn't know the Dutch wikipedia, doesn't understand the Dutch lega...

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First, I want to note to everyone that the words Graaf put in my mouth in the quote on the previous page at 12:04 were not in fact from me, and I rather strongly object to their being misrepresented as such. Just because one is free to misrepresent or misquote others doesn't mean they should, or th...

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First, I want to note to everyone that the words Graaf put in my mouth in the quote on the previous page at 12:04 were not in fact from me, and I rather strongly object to their being misrepresented as such. Just because one is free to misrepresent or misquote others doesn't mean they should, or th...

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First, I want to note to everyone that the words Graaf put in my mouth in the quote on the previous page at 12:04 were not in fact from me, and I rather strongly object to their being misrepresented as such. Just because one is free to misrepresent or misquote others doesn't mean they should, or tha...

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What legal right has the Wiki mouvement to break almost every law and regulation to reach there goal, collecting knowledge? Can you explain to me what the legal basis of this project is? Because in my opinion it is just a border balster, and a legal torch. Light one corner, and the whole wiki circu...

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When one of the social media giants recently tried to set up a fact-checking mechanism, the Republicans in Congress objected because it identified many more lies and errors by Republicans than those by Democrats. Finding equal numbers of lies, or even equal rates of lies, is not evidence of even-ha...

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I have to agree with Randy here. If someone's problem has been historically violating the copyright of sources currently under copyright, one could do much the same thing with sources which are no longer under copyright on topics which may be very unlikely to have had critical opinion of them change...

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As hypotheses that can be tested against the evidence, they are logically unexceptionable, as indeed are the four obvious mirror-image propositions. What does that evidence say? In Alabama, an ideal right-wing candidate for senator was rejected by so many right-wing voters that the Democrat won. Un...

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I think this discussion has proved most illuminating. It seems pretty clear that Wikpedians regard their so-called encyclopaedia project as being run for the benefit of the writers, not the readers. What is important to them is whether a contributor has been treated well, not whether there are thou...

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You forgot: People with a "right-wing point of view" are vastly more likely to evaluate individual incidents and cases - often out of context - and then claim they represent large and far-reaching trends, movements, or entire ideologies when in fact they are usually isolated or in some way unusual;...

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I think the choice is between a slow and painful decline, causing a lot of damage to the knowledge eco-system on the way, as the rising tide of nonsense gradually overwhelms the "reliable source" defences -- or a short sharp shock as the rising tide of nonsense bursts through and reveals the intrin...

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I hadn't really clicked through on this one. When I did, I saw red. This is the worst of WMF. I did what I typically don't do: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_Wikipedia_people I don't understand the comment by Andrew Davidson. He says "Here is a selection of so...

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