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Malik Shabazz

(b) asking for a better source than the Lonely Planet tourist guide for the assertion that there had been a Jewish temple or two in Jerusalem I don't know whether the Lonely Planet guide is reliable or not, but how on earth can you query that there were two temples in Jerusalem? I don't question th...

Malik Shabazz

As far as I know, you're not blocked, despite your evidence-free aspersions against Sandstein I don't want to hijack this discussion, but Sandstein topic banned me from Israel-Palestine topics on May 23. In late May or early June, he received an e-mail message about me from an editor who needs to b...

Malik Shabazz

I call bullshit. There was no study , because a study implies an effort to learn something. The effects of untreated syphilis were well-known, well-documented, and well understood decades before the men in Tuskegee were allowed to go untreated. Surely what was being studied was how much difference ...

Malik Shabazz

I don't know if you're trying to suggest that Malik is incorrect or if you're just making an obvious point about scientific method, Poetlister. I'm doing both. Malik is wrong because of this obvious point. Of course, in practice i this sort of case it would be quite unethical to leave people delibe...

Malik Shabazz

I call bullshit. There was no study, because a study implies an effort to learn something. The effects of untreated syphilis were well-known, well-documented, and well understood decades before the men in Tuskegee were allowed to go untreated.

Malik Shabazz

It would be good to have precision, but alas that's far from common. I never realised I shrunk during the day. This whole discussion is very interesting. :D I once heard (from an NYPD officer) that if a short person wanted to join the force, they would report to be measured first thing in the morni...

Malik Shabazz

Every word that comes out of Donald Trump's mouth is a lie. He's lied for decades about how tall Trump Tower is and how many stories it has. If he says he's 6'3" tall, I can say with near certainty that he was never taller than 5'11".

Malik Shabazz

AndyTheGrump wrote:Wikipedia 'popular culture' sections have always been bollocks, plain and simple. As for the 'satire' section in the MacArthur biography, unsourced negative content violates WP:BLP policy.

Agree, and agree. I just deleted the "Satire" section.

Malik Shabazz

Bezdomni wrote:I landed on this page for reasons completely unrelated to the news, but found it to be a surprising mess.

If you were surprised by the fact that an article related to the Arab-Israeli conflict is a mess, you must be very naïve.

Malik Shabazz

It's not a bad thing to receive a (rare) periodic reminder to change your password.

(Unlike my soon-to-be-former employer, which forces us to change our passwords every 60 days. That degrades security instead of improving it.)

Malik Shabazz

Unlike Wikipedia in other languages, the Croatian version refers to the WWII Jasenovac concentration camp as a “collection camp” - as well as playing down fascist crimes and ignoring right-wingers’ controversies. With its nationalist sentiments, factual mistakes, lack of academic references and omi...

Malik Shabazz

Anyone got a compilation of statements made by WMF members or ArbCom members about how 'serious' they are about dealing with real life harassment and threats against editors? Well, there was this: And let's not forget about this: And there was that one instance when they put their collective foot d...

Malik Shabazz

there really hasn't been a significant increase in genuine modern academic articles suggesting that intelligence levels are a function of race. (There has, of course, been a significant increase in the number of people who feel emboldened to think so due to recent political developments, of course,...

Malik Shabazz

I will simply say that there are groups of Haredim whose Judaism bears more resemblance to the Taliban than to anything I've ever encountered, either in synagogue or in my religious studies. :blink: How many people have these Haredim beheaded? In how many states have they enjoyed unchecked power? A...

Malik Shabazz

Poetlister wrote:
Malik Shabazz wrote:I will simply say that there are groups of Haredim whose Judaism bears more resemblance to the Taliban than to anything I've ever encountered, either in synagogue or in my religious studies.
How many people have these Haredim beheaded?

In how many states have they enjoyed unchecked power?

Malik Shabazz

I'm not sure I would call the ultra Orthodox nutcases, at least not in public anyway I try to be respectful and tolerant of people whose religious beliefs and practices are different than mine. (My forbearance ends when those practices go beyond self-destructive behavior and start to harm others.) ...

Malik Shabazz

Without Women or Evolution: 'Ultra-Orthodox Wikipedia' Is Literally Rewriting History Omer Benjakob, Haaretz , March 1, 2018 A new initiative aimed at bringing Wikipedia to the ultra-Orthodox community is making waves in Israel due to what many take to be the crude manner it has edited out content ...

Malik Shabazz

Poetlister wrote:
Ming wrote:

Can we please not do this over here?
Poetlister was going to reply, but Ming is wise and Poetlister agrees with Ming.

God bless us, every one!

Malik Shabazz

So that leaves the first one, i.e., that there really is a left-wing bias among Wikipedians. To that I would say that the longer you observe them, the more you realize that there's no way to quantify or generalize about this. Each of the half-million-or-so actual (i.e., non-stub) articles has some ...

Malik Shabazz

The title says it all. The victim is Crawiki , his block arising from the dreaded "boomerang effect" after he filed this AN/I report..... https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&oldid=824613467#Apparent_verbal_abuse_at_Antisemitism While he wasn'...

Malik Shabazz

From personal experience, I can assure TDA and others of the left-wing bias on Wikipedia. Whenever an editor -- and for some reason, they're all unregistered or newly registered -- adds the word "terrorist" to the description of "Black Lives Matter" or a left-wing group, it is always reverted. LEFT...

Malik Shabazz

I'm neither opposed to infoboxes nor zealous about adding them. One of my favorites is the one another editor added to Attallah Shabazz (T-H-L), an article I wrote. While the infobox contains no disinformation, it also conveys almost no information that's not in the two-sentence lead section.

Malik Shabazz

From personal experience, I can assure TDA and others of the left-wing bias on Wikipedia. Whenever an editor -- and for some reason, they're all unregistered or newly registered -- adds the word "terrorist" to the description of "Black Lives Matter" or a left-wing group, it is always reverted. LEFT-...

Malik Shabazz

I've added the line to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freddie_Prinze_Jr. : "His family original surname was Pruetzel (German spelling: Prützel) but his father change it to "Prinze"." But is kept on being removed by any uneducated moron retired of critical thinking. Even though is already established...

Malik Shabazz

As others have commented, an encyclopedia article -- or something that aspires to be an encyclopedia article -- should be based on the best sources, not the best sources on the internet, the best sources under my roof, or the best sources in the local public library. One would think that should be o...

Malik Shabazz

This is only tangentially related to WP, but a new Pew poll (of people in the US) shows a very wide partisan gap on Israel: Currently, 79% of Republicans say they sympathize more with Israel than the Palestinians, compared with just 27% of Democrats. Just a note on what the question means: very few...

Malik Shabazz

First, I agree that getting rid of Trump -- as much as I loathe him (and have for more than 30 years) -- would be jumping from the frying pan into the fire. As with most of the things they do, the Democrats haven't thought through the consequences of going after Trump with an eye toward impeaching h...

Malik Shabazz

I suppose an NPOV title would be something like Media Reports on the Racial Views of DT . Surely, "on the alleged Racial Views". He denies saying the word, and so do two senators who were present. If one were basing such an article only on last week's meeting, you might be right. But the man has 45...

Malik Shabazz

Ironically, Sir Joseph was recently complaining about how RfB describing him a "Jewish Republican from NYC" (on WO) is really anti-Semitic. Before WW2, many Jews lived in Eastern Europe and were dirt-poor. I wonder how Sir Joseph would react to a hypothetical comment calling the shtetl "shitholes"....

Malik Shabazz

Renée Bagslint wrote:"Zionist" is an antisemitic code-word for "jew".

It's also an old word that means "Jewish nationalist". Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Malik Shabazz

Whether or not someone is "featured", whatever that means, in some publication is a matter that can be discussed after the question of whether whatever they are featured (or not) in gives reliable information about them. Does the Playboy Channel have a reputation as a reliable source? Does it have ...

Malik Shabazz

That goes back to my earlier point. Bios of these people on their own sites can't be relied on, and usually there are few if any other sources. In my experience, about one third of all biographies (not porn bios, all bios) have no sources or a single source. Another third cite primary sources, such...

Malik Shabazz

Randy from Boise wrote:<snip>
Don't forget the professional photo with the "explicite-art.com" watermark. I'm 100% sure that's copyright clear, right?

RfB

Actually, it was released by the studio under a CC attribution license. See https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... ummers.jpg

Malik Shabazz

The General Nobility Guideline may be reduced to the following: a topic is suitable for Wikipedia if it is substantially covered in multiple, independently-published sources of presumed reliability. The Special Notability Guidelines attempt to correct systemic deficiencies in the above: individuals...

Malik Shabazz

From what I see, many journalists don't have BLPs. Two I checked recently were Izabella Kaminska (editor of FT Alphaville) and Ben Casselman (former WSJ and 538 economics reporter, now works for the NYT). It's hard to find sources about journalists, rather than the stuff which they have written the...

Malik Shabazz

I'm not sure what "they and their kind" means but there are plenty of acts that don't fit your narrative. The Boston Marathon bombing was by whites. Virtually any bombing or mass attack is treated as terrorism until it's not. Dylan Roof was a hate crime and prosecuted as such. It's different from t...

Malik Shabazz

I'm not sure what "they and their kind" means but there are plenty of acts that don't fit your narrative. The Boston Marathon bombing was by whites. Virtually any bombing or mass attack is treated as terrorism until it's not. Dylan Roof was a hate crime and prosecuted as such. It's different from t...

Malik Shabazz

As far as I know, to this day Steve Emerson has not recanted his assertion that the Oklahoma City bombing was the work of "Middle Eastern" terrorists (and he didn't mean Israelis, if you know what I mean). I don't know if it ever had any meaning, but the word "terrorist" has become an empty signifie...

Malik Shabazz

That's one long, weird story. I have to think there's a book in there somewhere if one were into telling long, weird stories at book length. RfB Hey thanks for this post. I thought there was something fishy about this guy given his and his wife's circumstances but never knew he was a Wikipedian. I ...

Malik Shabazz

Based on its name, I thought it was a survey about the confidence editors have in administrators. Instead, it looks like it's a survey for administrators about their confidence (in WMF?). Talk about confirmation bias.

Malik Shabazz

http://wikipediocracy.com/2017/09/13/what-can-fact-checkers-learn-from-wikipedia-how-not-to-do-things-perhaps-part-2,What can fact checkers learn from Wikipedia — how not to do things, perhaps? (Part 2) Part 2 of this two-part series on the perception and reality of Wikipedia. Let's get a few comme...

Malik Shabazz

In my experience, much of what the press reports is vaguely right and still wrong in many of the particulars. I don't think it's getting better or worse, but the budgets are getting smaller and the shortening of the news cycle has led to a greater rush to publish information that hasn't been edited....

Malik Shabazz

Can they get JarlaxleArtemis on a felony now? If they wanted to get rid of JarlaxleArtemis, they would have done so a long time ago. Ditto for Runtshit , who edits from his office at the University of Haifa. It sounds like you're referring to the WMF dispatching drones to take these guys out, which...

Malik Shabazz

So a Wall of Shame that lumps a noted Wikipedia critic alongside degenerate slime like Beta and Demiurge. Surely that was unintentional. My brother has always gotten a chuckle out of the fact that, at times, the Wikimedia Foundation has seemed more tolerant of child porn distributors than of me. On...

Malik Shabazz

Hrm, I had a CueCat back in the day, and indeed it was worthless. But the idea was pretty solid. He was just way ahead of his time and the needed synergy with other ecosystems was not there. QR codes are essentially the exact same thing. Sort of. I, too, had a CueCat. In the sort of colossal miscal...

Malik Shabazz

Back when I was an editor, I received a few death threats, including one that I ended up opening a police report regarding because it was fairly graphic and rather specific about the method of execution proposed. The individual in question was banned immediately (on Jimmy's express order); a few mo...

Malik Shabazz

I like their incoherent "article" about Malcolm X, which they allege is based on the Wikipedia article. Not.

Malik Shabazz

thekohser wrote:
Cassianto wrote:I'm forced to discuss with them the con's of an infobox...
The guy writes a Featured Article but thinks an apostrophe makes a noun plural? God, Wikipedia finds it's perfect denizens, doesn't it?

I fixed your spelling.

Malik Shabazz

According to the top right of the Wikipediocracy index page , my last visit was on Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:10 am . I have, in fact, visited many times since June 26, but the index page seems stuck on that date/time. I know this isn't a very important problem in the scheme of things... but it is a probl...

Malik Shabazz

According to the top right of the Wikipediocracy index page , my last visit was on Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:10 am . I have, in fact, visited many times since June 26, but the index page seems stuck on that date/time. I know this isn't a very important problem in the scheme of things... but it is a proble...

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