Wikipediocracy

Liz99

A recently blocked vandal/sockpuppet linked to this discussion on Wikipediocracy in a talk page screed on Wikipedia so I'm guessing Blooxo didn't follow through on their vow to stop trying to edit Wikipedia. Or some blocked editor who was mentioned in this thread wants more attention.

Liz99

Oh, this is just unbelievable. As the red pill talkers say, down the rabbit hole we go. I found a WordPress blog he created just devoted to smearing the woman who accused him of sexual assault (her name is the URL) which I'm sure the judge in his case would not have approved of. That led me to this ...

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Not sure if this has already been shared but after reading so much about this guy, and trying to follow the twists and turns, it was interesting to me to hear his voice. I guess there is no way he could get a news organization to remove a video from their own broadcast about a local news story. http...

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Also pretend you support Tottenham. They'll never be able to guess then! Okay, so the original AGCP had the categories "New England Patriots fans" (NFL) and "Arsenal fans". Bbb23 blocked Dolfinz1972 (MIAMI DOLPHINS, not New England Patriots) as a sock of AGCP in March 2019. I wonder if putting my l...

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Things must be going well for an article like this to be a concern at Wikipediocracy.

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By the way, the "science" editors in Wikipedia, especially in the medicine, health, and environmental (climate change/global warming) topic areas have always been really rude to each other, especially to new editors. Is WP really ready now, after 10+ years, to take that on? Why is "science" in quot...

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On their talk page, Iridescent suggested deleting old blocks from editors' block logs because it can be used forever as "evidence" against an editor. But there was an incident years ago of an admin rev deleting an entry from a block log for improper reasons and they were desysoped as a result. Could...

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I regularly delete broken redirect pages. It's one of my boring, daily tasks I set about doing like tagging empty categories. Back in June, Laura Hale had user-requested the deletion of dozens & dozens of her user page drafts which resulted in dozens & dozens of broken redirects from former accounts...

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I still think it was a mistake for the committee to accept this case request. There aren't any administrators who have blemish-free records. Except for cases of outing, I think an established editor or admin should be sanctioned based on a pattern of misconduct, not based on one incident. I'm not d...

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I don't remember if I went into it in a thread here before, but I've had a couple of friends who transitioned from men to women, and they had a really rough time. One of them ended up halting the transition about halfway through because of medical complications. I haven't talked to them in awhile, ...

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Transgenderism gets most of the attention but I've done most of my reading about Intersex people, judged to be somewhere between 0.1% and 0.2% and 1.7% of live births (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex#Population_figures ). These are children who have a mixture or ambiguous genitalia, gonad...

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I had a thought. In sociology, there is the concept of "secondary associations" - which are non-formal non-governmental groups of people, who fulfill an intermediate role in politics and society. It is also called "civil society" sometimes. Examples include boy scouts, bowling leagues etc. There ha...

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And I'm sure Jytdog discloses all of his current and future COIs? Actually, on his user page, he talks about the field he works in and the kind of articles he'll stay away from because of a potential conflict-of-interest. He offers more personal information than most editors, many of whom won't eve...

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as the lead for the community team. And after such a darn good job at the WMF too! https://www.reddit.com/r/ModSupport/comments/4iwobz/a_new_challenger_appears/ Morons. The wikiinaction thread. https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiInAction/comments/4j1cmy/philippe_beaudette_has_joined_us_to_lead_our/ God, ...

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I still think it was a mistake for the committee to accept this case request. There aren't any administrators who have blemish-free records. Except for cases of outing, I think an established editor or admin should be sanctioned based on a pattern of misconduct, not based on one incident. I'm not de...

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The Arbitration Committee Audit Subcommittee ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration%20Committee/Audit%20Subcommittee ) handled complaints about misuse or abuse of CheckUser and Oversight tools. It was disbanded in January 2016 by motion ( https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=699...

Liz99

In my experience, there are a fair number of ANI postings that involve Editor A complaining about Editor B and then a back-and-forth argument between the two editors with no other editors or admins wanting to wade in to what might be a personal dispute. In those cases, the complaints are almost neve...

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I'm just surprised at how quickly the complaint/discussion was moved to the archive after it was closed. But that has become the custom lately, there are number of editors quickly archiving on ANI as soon as a case closes. I'd prefer if they were left on the main page for at least a day so editors w...

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I think ArbCom has to be very careful if they are going to delve into evaluating statements or userboxes people have or put on their user page. Calling oneself an academic and lecturer because you have a bachelor's degree and did lecture at a university (in what was likely an annex or community outr...

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Agreed that Keilana's op-ed used expletives in a completely ironic way. It was actually a funny little troll of sorts, although taunting puritans isn't much of a sport and it was more a bit of performance art than anything beyond that. Now we differ: there is no "pass" granted to Certain Editors wh...

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Could it be any more like a middle school student body election? Yes, all of the editors have to gather in the auditorium where the candidates say before the assembly how they are going to improve the lunch menu, make recess longer and get rid of those gym clothes that students have to wear for PE....

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When I first started using my current account, I was accused of being a sock and I was mentioned as a probable sock at other SPIs when I happen to support another editor's point of view whom the filer disagreed with. I know other established editors who were also accused of being sock accounts becau...

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I would say a significant percentage. The percentage that was blocked for no reason at all is higher though. How many IP's, schools, business and countries have had their IP blocked as a proxy, sockpuppet or some other fictitious reason that has never done a single edit? How many accounts have been...

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I think that beside posting supportive evidence in an arbitration case, the best way one can help an involved party in an arbitration case is to have an email correspondence with them so you can advise them when they are getting too close to the ledge. Being in arbitration is stressful if you are an...

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Well, we now have an interesting definition of personal attack: it's a personal attack to say that someone is not an idiot . Did you ask her about that? I thought that was pretty odd myself. Question has been asked and answered on my talk page. Last year, I was surprised to find that clerks are cri...

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It is not a new idea, but apparently lasted only a few months when it was tried (many years ago now): Wikipedia:Association of Members' Advocates There have been a variety of attempts to make Wikipedia a friendlier place for new editors, to provide support. I think the Teahouse is one of the succes...

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It's a no-win situation for him, because he's too narcissistic to view problems from any perspective or motivation beyond that of his own need for personal self-aggrandizement. He can't manage other people's expectations because he can't really empathize with other people or understand their needs,...

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I would suggest changing the title to: RfA d eform: Passing standard lowered 5% to 65% . This dropping of quality would have helped Liz most recently. Which other administrator-applicants would have been helped? I don't see how it would have changed things. I passed without the lowered percentage. ...

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It's crazy, editors clamoring answers, demanding explanations ASAP and when Wales makes a comment, the shit really hits the fan and now people are talking about lawsuits on this thread. I guess the only Wales could have handled it better was not to communicate at all with folks on his talk page but ...

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I think that once the Board has worked out a statement with Legal, their explanation can be debated, dissected, defended or refuted. Right now, the only folks who know what happened at this meeting aren't talking and all we can do is speculate. I'm surprised at how definitive this action was. This m...

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Teahouse main page Teahouse page on Meta This is supposed to "improve relations" and "encourage editing", especially among women. Feel free to post opinions on this worthy and loving project. I can see one problem off the bat: how does the average Randy find this page? It's not linked from the fron...

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Although the response I expected to get was "Why are you reading ED?" Why are you reading ED? I guess historical interest. Most of the editors who are profiled stopped editing years and years ago so I'm only familiar with their names from reading archived cases. But beyond rude insults to individua...

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Moral Hazard wrote:I have nothing to do with ED.

I didn't mean to make an accusation (although I can see it looks like I was as I was being glib), it was a coincidence to see the same reference in both places on the same day. Although the response I expected to get was "Why are you reading ED?"

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Wikipedia is immensely useful to anyone who writes history. And to journalists. I do remember a few months ago, an editor, who used Wikipedia but didn't edit much, arguing in a discussion about the need to correctly categorize historical events, art, trends, births and deaths, etc. because they wro...

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The system takes care of us white guys, even when they seem not to be listening. I'm more worried about the children of immigrants. Yes, but except for Native Americans, every American is really the child of immigrants. What if a person's grandparents or great-grandparents 100+ years ago had been r...

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It's the primary reason I feel zero remorse when exposing real-life identities on wikipedia. The outing of Brad was unwarranted, although it apparently inspired art: http://www.greatouroboros.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Scooby-Doo.jpg That's interesting, I happened to look at an article today on...

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At some point in January 2016 (I forget the exact date), Wikipedia will have been in existence for 15 years. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_15 This site only started in March 2013, but I think there might have been some discussion of Wikipedia's 10th anniversary on Wikipedia Review. What...

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It's been reopened. There's also Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Clerking proposal 2015 , for when it's concluded. I find it a daunting RfC to go through but that's because it is trying to do too many things at once. But now that it will be open 30 days, I'll spend some time going through it. Keep...

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This morning the history channel explained the origin of the phrase, "balls to the wall". It has to do with ball-topped airplane control levers being pushed forward as far as they can go, i.e. going all-out. Naturally, I looked it up on Wikipedia. Balls to the Wall (leads to an article about an alb...

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Hex wrote: It's been reopened. There's also Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Clerking proposal 2015 (T-H-L), for when it's concluded.

I find it a daunting RfC to go through but that's because it is trying to do too many things at once. But now that it will be open 30 days, I'll spend some time going through it.

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All four people who blocked Eric Corbett for the GGTF mess have been elected, and Gamaliel had also filed an AE request against him. I mentioned all 5 in my own statement on the PD talk page. Hawkeye and Kevin Gorman have been left out. I predict AE3 will not end well for EC. I think a) first, you ...

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And the actual winners are... [link]https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2015&type=revision&diff=694513833&oldid=694023716[/link] Casliber — CHECK Opabinia regalis — CHECK Keilana — CHECK Drmies — CHECK Callanecc — CHECK Kelapstick — CHECK ...

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Liz, maybe you can ask your contact to confirm or deny that one very specific piece of information. Contact? I'm not sure what you mean. This is the thread where the image originates from: https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiInAction/comments/3tqepn/2015_arbcom_elections_voting_phase/ It's a comment by Mi...

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You know, people seem to feel compelled to repeat those insults lobbed at me (which happened several times in the AN thread) and it doesn't get any easier reading them the fifth or sixth time. I didn't make a fuss at the time but this isn't the first time Phil has called me vile names and it still s...

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Anybody want to bet that the SecurePoll extension is anything but secure? When do we expect formal results from the election people? Yeah, that might be a reasonable explanation of how these could be a set of valid early, unscrutineered numbers... A fairly easy hack and bingo-bango-bongo. I'd figur...

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This kind of reminds me of watching exit polls on TV. Why can't people simply wait till the final results come in? Unless you are betting on the stock market or something. I doubt the stock market cares about Wikipedia ArbCom. Well, this is a discussion forum. People gabbed about the nominations th...

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That looks cockeyed for a lot of reasons, but since the vote is so much higher than ever before, it is hard to say. Every voting guide was against Gorman, for instance. Time will tell. That is not true. I read over 25 candidate guidelines and collated the results (see my post above or my talk page)...

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Spoiler Alert!!! Here's How It Turns Out... 1. Opabinia regalis (PC∆) 2. Kirill Lokshin (PC∆) 3. Keilana (PC∆) 4. Gamaliel (PC∆) 5. Gorilla Warfare (PC∆) 6. Drmies 7. Casliber 8. Kudpung 9. Thryduulf That's 5 Friendly Spacers, plus Guerillero and Courcelles already sitting on the committee makes 7/...

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The worst case scenario as put forward by the editors complaining about the mass notification is that the arbitrators will be chosen by random. Which honestly probably wouldn't create an Arbcom measurably worse then any previous Arbcom. Exactly! What I think will really be interesting is if the edi...

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What I don't get about this furor over letting editors know they are eligible to vote is this: Let's just go against Wikipedia principles and assume bad faith and, while we are at it, assume there is collusion among editors even though the likelihood that any of these editors know each other and hav...

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