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by Flameau
Mon Feb 16, 2015 5:47 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Creative Vandalism
Replies: 464
Views: 141750

Re: Creative Vandalism

.... I don't claim to have the answers and I am certainly unable to address issues with my status. You won't find me amongst the admins and that is why the few people who know it will understand why my identity is not relevant. Sorry to disappoint, but I'm not fit or willing to be an admin. And I a...
by Flameau
Sun Feb 15, 2015 6:33 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Creative Vandalism
Replies: 464
Views: 141750

Re: Creative Vandalism

Your insertions are deliberate misinformation. It is distinguished from common vandalism. This is not the equivalent of "I go poopie now" or content blanking. As long as you make the distinction - I'll agree that your endeavor has some merit and use, but I still think it is ethically poor.
by Flameau
Sun Feb 15, 2015 5:47 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Where are the content builders?
Replies: 68
Views: 2258

Re: Where are the content builders?

Ross - Could you hit the older Featured Articles for a bit? I am pretty sure you will see that the pages will be similar in result. Given the length of time and the revolving door of accounts and retention - this "pattern" will certainly be more recognizable as creation and limited management cycles...
by Flameau
Sun Feb 15, 2015 5:39 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Roads Go Ever On
Replies: 180
Views: 8712

Re: Roads Go Ever On

Wikipedia needs better management tools. It needs a way of maintaining and preserving developed content against hoaxes, errors and degradation. I'd like to see some errors and hoaxes found in the Roads articles and see how they compare to other topics. Books are not foolproof and ultimately and even...
by Flameau
Sun Feb 15, 2015 5:26 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Creative Vandalism
Replies: 464
Views: 141750

Re: Creative Vandalism

The problem is that you're wrong. If Wikipedia were totally the pile of steaming nonsense that some people here think it is, it would have crashed in flames years ago. In fact, the bulk of Wikipedia is OK; a significant proportion is good. As a result, many people believe that it's all good; that's...
by Flameau
Sun Feb 15, 2015 5:10 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Roads Go Ever On
Replies: 180
Views: 8712

Re: Roads Go Ever On

Amidst the homosexual and mental retardation insults made by others - Peter Damian is on the right course. I ask: What part of the roads articles are harming any of you? It may be esoteric, it may be boring as fuck to you, but the roads group has gone to the limit in detail and structure while the l...
by Flameau
Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:40 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Creative Vandalism
Replies: 464
Views: 141750

Re: Creative Vandalism

:rotfl: Is that an admission that you don't understand what I am referring to? You are making a test where you cannot fail, knowing that the stylometric approach and normal detection methods will not even flag your edits. When you have an institution forging documents to make a fake page with source...
by Flameau
Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:56 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Creative Vandalism
Replies: 464
Views: 141750

Re: Creative Vandalism

Thekohser - I am not entirely a fan of your ethics, but we both know that is bullshit. Your quantitative data and analysis approach is a rounding error in the grand scheme of things. Not only are you wasting time on something you already know - but your approach leaves much to be desired. The only i...
by Flameau
Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:35 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Creative Vandalism
Replies: 464
Views: 141750

Re: Creative Vandalism

I hope you realize that while you are subjecting yourself to identification with such details, but this breaching experiment is certain to succeed. You do not seem to have a poor understanding of Wikipedia, but this experiment by definition questions it. It basically boils down to "hurr hurr I inser...
by Flameau
Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:56 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Roads Go Ever On
Replies: 180
Views: 8712

Re: Roads Go Ever On

The notion of removing well-developed content is detrimental by its nature. Certainly, the Roads project is of niche interest, but almost every commentator's interests and work falls into this same category. The "average reader" is a wonderful construction which can be invoked to distance the commen...
by Flameau
Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:43 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Ryulong doing what he does best
Replies: 40
Views: 3532

Re: Ryulong doing what he does best

Ryulong to be featured on Dramatica for November 21 & 22, 2014. I feel bad about his Gofundme campaign (which worked to get his shit out of Japan), but calling Auerbach a fuckwit and a cockbag are beyond the pale. Rebuked Jimmy thrice and became a COI in the process - right or wrong doesn't matter w...
by Flameau
Fri May 30, 2014 3:46 pm
Forum: Governance
Topic: A case study of administrative abuse
Replies: 27
Views: 1215

Re: A case study of administrative abuse

That whole comment implies that it is purposely toxic and its not ignorance or poor management. People in places of power on Wikipedia are rarely trained or capable of management - those that are seem overwhelmed by all the work that gets heaped upon them. Willingly at first, but they cannot easily ...
by Flameau
Fri May 30, 2014 3:22 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: How to get your way in an edit war
Replies: 21
Views: 539

Re: How to get your way in an edit war

Wikipedia already has a stable lockdown state from which anyone can access. However, it becomes pretty clear, and pretty quickly, that old versions are not as good as new versions.
by Flameau
Tue May 27, 2014 6:10 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Missing Articles — Low-hanging Fruit?
Replies: 562
Views: 210151

Re: Missing articles

Kelly Martin, you are right and I did not think of it in such a way. I value Wikipediocracy as watchdog and as a place where proper and insightful criticism can be shared as a separate entity. Naturally, with my ideological views, I've improperly framed this discussion the wrong way. Thanks for that...
by Flameau
Tue May 27, 2014 5:26 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Missing Articles — Low-hanging Fruit?
Replies: 562
Views: 210151

Re: Missing articles

True, I diminished the impact of my statement with that second post. While there is no global prioritization in Wikipedia's chaos, the stigma of Wikipediocracy is hinders its resolution. Yes, this thread points out a problem, but who's going to let people trace their contributions from a Wikipediocr...
by Flameau
Tue May 27, 2014 4:17 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Missing Articles — Low-hanging Fruit?
Replies: 562
Views: 210151

Re: Missing articles

...vandalism is down and the speed and accuracy of vandal reversions have greatly improved... Do you have any actual quantitative evidence of these claims? This is a good read. Wikipedia Vandalism Detection: Combining Natural Language, Metadata, and Reputation Features An old study from 2009: Study...
by Flameau
Tue May 27, 2014 2:45 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Missing Articles — Low-hanging Fruit?
Replies: 562
Views: 210151

Re: Missing articles

Thanks, Zoloft, but I am not quite ready to do such a thing. Though there is strong evidence to a band of editors who are out to remove fictional topics wholesale and are using meatpuppets and coordinating in a manner similar to a previous blog post. Midsize Jake, the estimation is arbitrary and is ...
by Flameau
Tue May 27, 2014 6:04 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Missing Articles — Low-hanging Fruit?
Replies: 562
Views: 210151

Re: Missing articles

By all means, I've done more than my fair of fixing on Wikipedia, but it seems the first reaction to criticism of "the critics of Wikipedia" was to label me a troll, just like I was a "member of Arbcom" the last time my opinion differed. Having 200,000 stubs on things is better than having 200,000 l...
by Flameau
Tue May 27, 2014 4:25 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Missing Articles — Low-hanging Fruit?
Replies: 562
Views: 210151

Re: Missing articles

I would venture a guess that every topic that receives coverage in Britannica probably has a corresponding article in Wikipedia. But then, "Wikipedia is not paper", so what's your point, Flamer? I guess we are "shitting you", after all. Britannica still has substantial content and topics that Wikip...
by Flameau
Mon May 26, 2014 2:45 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Missing Articles — Low-hanging Fruit?
Replies: 562
Views: 210151

Re: Missing articles

For all the fun talk over the missing articles, you got to be shitting me that you can only come up with foreign, obscure or other such individuals and topics that do not even get coverage in Britannica. Great measuring stick - why not just hit up the missing article WP page and pick at random about...
by Flameau
Mon May 26, 2014 2:37 pm
Forum: Governance
Topic: The stewards are firmly in control
Replies: 44
Views: 4661

Re: The stewards are firmly in control

As a female name, it should have a double l. You're saying that Daniele Suzuki , Daniele Hypólito , Daniele Gaither , Daniele Alexander , Daniele Laumann , and Daniele Vidal had illiterate parents? Isn't this along the lines of "Just be thankful your parents didn't name you Le-a and pronounce it "L...
by Flameau
Sun May 25, 2014 5:30 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: WMF and Community Changes Wishlist
Replies: 344
Views: 11476

Re: WMF and Community Changes Wishlist

A few different problems that I have with wikipedia is aptly demonstrated by this one little edit. An eight year old boy added a selfie to the article January Magazine eight days ago . It's still there. http://archive.today/55uGg Oh yeah, how about this https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kg...
by Flameau
Wed May 21, 2014 2:18 pm
Forum: Governance
Topic: More threats by Arbcom
Replies: 434
Views: 35982

Re: More threats by Arbcom

It is your actions which lead to this and its your poor management and not providing any proof of this while continuing in the worst possible route. Your actions are only making it easier to condemn and resort to such actions against future users - you intentionally exacerbated this problem and reli...
by Flameau
Mon May 19, 2014 4:52 pm
Forum: Governance
Topic: More threats by Arbcom
Replies: 434
Views: 35982

Re: More threats by Arbcom

Triptych - don't get me wrong, but Kumioko had a case then, but not now. You don't announce to pester and evade whilst doing everything you can to irritate those with power. Rich was just as targeted, if not more so, yet its the manner upon which you respond determines the likelihood of trouble blow...
by Flameau
Mon May 19, 2014 3:08 pm
Forum: Governance
Topic: More threats by Arbcom
Replies: 434
Views: 35982

Re: More threats by Arbcom

Oy vey. Kumioko.... Kumioko. I worry about your sanity at times because of these comments that you make. "My campaign of comments against abusive admins..." and " only thing I am guilty of is a few comments and emails..." are not even on the same page. You are knowingly and deliberating playing with...
by Flameau
Mon May 19, 2014 2:56 pm
Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
Topic: Wikipedia's yellow journalism
Replies: 16
Views: 3344

Re: Wikipedia's yellow journalism

"As long as the consensus of the Wikipedia community is that disliked living people do not deserve protection under BLP policy, this community holds a rather dubious distinction. It is one of the only communities, online or in the real world, where disliked individuals cannot be shown the same basi...
by Flameau
Fri May 16, 2014 3:17 pm
Forum: Governance
Topic: More threats by Arbcom
Replies: 434
Views: 35982

Re: More threats by Arbcom

You're forgotten as is the administrator abuse that put you in the box leaving "them" free to do it to the next person. A well-written front page post would be far more effective at this point. I am not implying dismissing the act - just preparing for this and future instances better. There is stil...
by Flameau
Fri May 16, 2014 3:02 pm
Forum: Governance
Topic: More threats by Arbcom
Replies: 434
Views: 35982

Re: More threats by Arbcom

Kumioko, you made your point long ago, isn't it about time you stopped poking an angry beehive? Your argument would have been far stronger if you listened to other posters and actually provided the evidence and stepped back to watch the "world burn". Instead, you have decided to drone on about abuse...