Wikipediocracy

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Midsize Jake wrote: ↑
Wed May 31, 2023 7:09 am

DHeyward wrote: ↑
Tue May 30, 2023 9:22 pm
Musk is mocking the (mis)quote not repeating it.
So, does that mean we can criticize kids with leukemia as much as we want?

So you now understand the fake quote that Musk was mocking?

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TBF, he screenshot an account that misquoted Voltaire and asked about when they can go rise up against children with leukemia. He is highlighting why the quote is intellectually vapid unless you believe we are ruled by children with leukemia or believe children with leukemia can be criticised. Musk ...

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It's assertively wrong for entertainment

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No, it wasn't a dig at Trump. Here's the money quote that explains where Jimbo is coming from.

Late last year, Wales launched his own social media platform called WT:Social to take on Facebook and Twitter. But instead of an ad-funded model, he intends to fund it via donations.

It's an advert.

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I didn't think free and open discourse was a side. I don't think Twitter, Facebook, google, or any platform site should curate political content (beyond fighting words, pornograpu, etc). They can be a publisher if they want to police ideas. The obvious implication being that there's no difference b...

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<snip>That there is anger directed facebook for not curating political content and the twitter/facebook anger falls on political lines I think says a lot about free and open discourse. In what way? You pick a side? I didn't think free and open discourse was a side. I don't think Twitter, Facebook, ...

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But it's a bit thick to argue that commenting on Trump's post is depriving him of free speech. Even if Twitter blocks an account (and of course Trump won't be blocked), that cannot be contested on grounds of free speech. On the contrary, Trump is depriving people of their right to free speech if th...

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It seems Molly wishes to have the change.org petition removed for the same reason Monster wants the bio on WP removed. They both should get their wish. Neither should be editing the articles.

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What California law do you think may have been broken, what does that law specifically say (a hyperlink to the code would be nice), and how do you think it may have been broken? I'm gonna say this one....BPC22576. http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=BPC§io...

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Since then, obviously, the rules about COI declaration have firmed up, but you can't burn her at the stake for hard rules that were not even in force then. WMF was disgusting in what they did to her. Her editing, paid and unpaid, was not disgusting. RfB The issue wasn't paid editing as much as the ...

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I was actually surprised Wikipedia didn't have the spoilers before it was officially released. Reviewers had already panned the movie before release. My theory is that they are all children's movies as George Lucas explained. If you 8-14 y/o any time between 1977 and 1983, episodes IV-VI were great ...

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Our peeps had another junket, this time a five day spree in Berlin. RfB The author is based in Berlin. The clear boondoggle indicator would be where/how this was held in Berlin. Levels of Junket 1) Held at WMF office and author commuted from home while other non-Berliners stayed at hotels or teleco...

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Yesterday news was reporting the polls had tightened and even suggested Corbyn might be able to form government or keep the current gridlock. Was that some sort of get out the vote effort giving labour hope? If exit polls are correct, the media polls yesterday were awful and labour got thumped. I wo...

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A person that invested in WP likely has another admin account to so casually throw them away. I wonder which arbcom candidate/member s/he was? I am sure the spectrum kids will find their IRL identity.

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Was Jimbo supporting Prince Andrew before Wikipedia as porn hustler? The timelines match. I wonder if any of the Epstein women/girls ended up on Bomis servers or vice/versa? Epstein as a Bomis subscriber and therefore indirect WP funder would be a predictable twist. Finally an answer to "Why Florida?"

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I think it was a shock. Coming from orgs like World Bank where the org controls the flow of money to the community and community conforms to whatever World Bank, WMF relies on the community for everything. It wouldn't surprise me if the T&S Fram fiasco was tacitly approved by a new "Community Engage...

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On October 3, Amanda Keton was https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2019/10/03/wikimedia-foundation-welcomes-amanda-keton-as-general-counsel/ appointed General Counsel of the Wikimedia Foundation. She was previously General Counsel at Tides. https://wikimediafoundation.org/profile/amanda-keton/ Not...

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Maybe what the RfA needs are examples of some of the twisted stuff he's uploaded. I've still got a copy of the pic that he posted to commons where he is receiving anal sex. http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=341&start=750#p9811 Give him the "undelete" button and pass the popcorn.

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Maybe it's still early days and all, but opposition to "partial/temporary office actions" appears to be almost unanimous, so... what are the chances they'll just ignore this "user feedback" and hope everyone forgets all about it until the next time they decide to ban someone they don't like, but wh...

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10920 wrote:The WMF was not defeated. Repeating it doesn't make it true.

Perhaps but Hale is gone and Fram remains. That's a spectacular fail for the group with the name "Trust and Safety." I would venture to say both Hale and Fram would agree on that point.

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Poetlister wrote:Could there be a systematic attempt to clean up or delete all LH's articles? Would someone complain that it was grave dancing or harassment of a departed editor? Don't tell me that that is unlikely!

It would at least be an entertaining sockpuppet show.

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Vigilant wrote:Is it possible that WO could have scripted a more complete disaster if we'd sat down and planned it out?

The ArbCom fiasco will provide the ammunition to separate editor dispute resolution from editor behavior issues.

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Vigilant wrote:It is better to live on your feet than die on your knees.

I'm hoping you meant it is better to die on your feet than live on your knees. But maybe the other way avoids the pile-on.

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A bit more is revealed (by SilkTork on Meta): "[...] that lines up with my observations, and also with the thrust of the T&S document. It is a shame that document is restricted because some of the observations in it are insightful and - contrary to community expectations - not hostile towards you. ...

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I thought the original "Five Horsemen" were TaraInDC, NorthbySouthBaronof, TheRedPenOfDoom, Tarc and Ryulong, according to GamerGhazi at least, but it's been a while. I mean, you definitely don't want to leave Tarc off the list - he'd be devastated... I forgot Red Pen. And yeah, I was having troubl...

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Schools and local government subdivisions (like municipalities) are both awful. In a perfect world they should all be driven into list articles. Like all the high schools should be part of an article about their school district. I see this as a platform limitation. These articles should be created ...

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The crazy thing is that the whole reason the Yaniv case is remarkable is explicitly because Yaniv has a penis and testicles, and the estheticians might have religious or cultural norms which prohibit coming into contact with such anatomy, and which don't take account of Yaniv's self-identification ...

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Vigilant wrote:Similarly to Project Qworty, Laura Hale has left a river of terrible articles in her wake.

Some samples:
Fifth-wave_feminism_in_Ibero-America (T-H-L)
... even hose that include the fifth-wave...

Hmmmm...

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The wonderful world of statistics. It's an exercise for the reader to understand why an obscure wikiproject being the "fastest growing" wikiproject is a meaningless statistic. It's more of an indictment of the presenter that introduced them in those terms. There's a reason why the relief pitcher tha...

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Yes, I agree that on the federal level we aren't employees. But I don't think there's federal preemption on this issue, and so states can make their own laws/rules concerning the scope of duties owed by an organization to its volunteers. For example, if California decided Wikipedia volunteers neede...

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Is Guy Macon functionally illiterate? The caselaw involving ADA compliance and websites has almost entirely focused on *commercial* sites or sites that have a nexus with a physical location, because of public accommodation laws. The court held this way in Target because Target was a retail outlet a...

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One of the most striking things to me that doesn't seem to be noticed by the en.wp denizens is that the WMF has reframed the debate to be about 'how do we protect the snowflakes from being harassed?' rather than 'was there any real harassment at all?'. Naah, it's always been about 'how do we protec...

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The goal of T&S should be to make the community trust enough to report harassment openly. Safe enough to openly document harassment. Instead, they work for the opposite. They reinforce the belief that it's "dangerous" to report. They try to expand anonymity rather than work to reduce its need. They ...

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Remember, Smallbones' major claim is he should be allowed to use what Fram wrote, but Fram can't use what he wrote. That's actually a good point for another reason: Equity and fairness. Attempting to prevent Fram from using certain evidence while claiming the ability to use certain other evidence t...

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mendaliv wrote:
Vigilant wrote:
mendaliv wrote:In general lawyers are a huge grabbag of quality.
What about pro se litigants?
Almost perfectly uniform in quality.

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Everyone, While the aforementioned conversations between T&S and our communities take place, we recommend T&S focus on the most severe cases, for instance: the handling of legal issues, threats of violence, cross-wiki abuse, and child protection issues until consultation and agreement between T&S a...

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This seems to have quite a lot of layers to it and I haven't looked at the whole story yet. But if the controversy here is just that a user was banned out of nowhere, without any public explanation, I don't know why this is controversial in and of itself. Many users have been banned "out of the blu...

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That's enough for me. This woman is SERIOUSLY mentally ill and should not be on en.wp. Read this page. Laura Hale is a serial grifter and manipulator. This is likely true. She's someone blowing the horn close to sympathetic ears. But WMF's belief is that even if she's crazy, she's right. It won't b...

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This appears to be a ham-fisted attempt to avoid the public acrimony that arose over Malleus and the "c*nt" fiasco. Really if they permabanned Fram over all wikis for all time this would have been a days drama. But it appears they are trying to police an area that simply defies policing (and obvious...

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The RWNJ media consistently ignores the "random" and "mass" aspects of random mass murder where firearms are concerned, as if those two aspects are somehow irrelevant. I assume they have to, or else they won't get paid, but they consistently ignore both the vast difference in the degree of pure phy...

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Nit-picking over the exact terminology used to describe devices expressly designed for killing (which I think nobody disputes was what the much-disputed 'right to bear arms' clause in the U.S. constitution was referring to, regardless of all the other questions concerning its intent) is rather besi...

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This outrage over these attention seeking killers that are extremely rare shows a profound lack of understanding of crime and crimes against children. If I want your advice on what I should find outrageous, I'll ask for it. I wasn't offering advice, I was pointing out a profound lack of understandi...

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Nit-picking over the exact terminology used to describe devices expressly designed for killing (which I think nobody disputes was what the much-disputed 'right to bear arms' clause in the U.S. constitution was referring to, regardless of all the other questions concerning its intent) is rather besi...

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Fair enough - that's the firearms groups definition in a nutshell. Is it in the article? The pulse nightclub shooter did not use a rifle with an AR-15 receiver so is that also incorrect designation? It's a slippery slope of misinformation. The Wikipedia article on the shooting doesn’t mention AR15,...

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Just to clarify any misunderstandings, "assault weapon" is just a scary term being used to confuse people. There is no such thing as an "assault weapon", that wouldn't be a very good marketing term. It's a term, defined by politicians, to instill fear and create anxiety. ... From the Gun Digest Buy...

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From my limited knowledge, and watching a few videos it’s the receiver that makes it an AR15. The receivers are identical in shape, holes, nubbins (I made that up), etc. Parts that fit on one AR15 receive, such as barrel, trigger, etc should fit on another AR15 make. The term AR-15 is not quite a g...

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The article calls Wikipedia "the web’s leading source of neutral information". Very often it isn't, as of course this article shows. What is it that you find biased? The whole news item is about how the Wikipedia article was biased by the NRA. Does anyone think that Wikipedia in general is "the web...

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I see that the Snoog has another press citation to nail to their userpage. (Maybe that'll make up for the Berkman-Klein Center for Internet & Society accidentally misattributing his words to Politico on page 15 of their recent report on ( what else? ) the 2016 elections.) WP:Firearms is also active...

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... 90% of the content is created by men.... "citation needed." If the content is the sum of human knowledge and 90% of the content is created by men.... Really they need to look at more statistics before they say this kind of stuff. For starters, looking at the top contributors should dispel the n...

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Rather odd story. Twenty five years ago the focus was on "AK-47" style rifles. I tried pointing this out as a lot of the identification of an "AR-15" is in the context of legislation to regulate it. Editors that had no agendas related to gun politics are generally unfamiliar with the history, nomenc...

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