Wikipediocracy

Cedric

Someone should pay me to do this work. If it's been sitting 7 or 8 years, that should be a pretty strong clue that this is work that volunteers don't want to do. This would be more valuable work than scanning old photos at a museum. You are very far from being the first person to come to this basic...

Cedric

Replace your annoying “Did you know?” factoids with even more annoying “Actually that’s fake” corrections. Wikipedia features a massive list of common misconceptions about history, science, and more. I check it once a year to refresh my smugness. ... Of course, this is still Wikipedia, so before yo...

Cedric

First, I think it's a really interesting idea to think about how the WMF might negotiate for bulk discounts for access for individual Wikipedians to the archives of newspapers (to be paid for by the WMF). I totally disagree with Carrite's cynicism and negativism about this sort of thing - I really ...

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Poetlister wrote:I think we need a little patience. Wikitribune will take some time to get off the ground. Once it does, no doubt it will soar like TPOP under Jimbo's chairmanship.

Indeed.

Cedric

Poetlister wrote:
Randy from Boise wrote:Yes, Greg, I hear you smirking.
If you can hear someone smirking, you have sharper ears than most. Does that go with having a horsehead?

I don't think so. But there is a fair amount of screaming involved.

Cedric

I'm surprised Billy Carter's Wiki bio doesn't say he was also a brewer. Indeed. Other than being Jimmy Carter's embarrassing younger brother, that is what he was best known for. I never drank any Billy Beer, but the few I talked to that did all said it was wretched stuff. It was one of the biggest ...

Cedric

As you are well aware, this revolves around your signature that appears at the top of my contributions page accusing me of "harassment and initimidation"... Ah, right. I'm not responsible for the blocking admin's chosen block reason and it's not for me to unilaterally change it (and, as an aside, I...

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Earthy Astringent wrote:Stop doing free work for them.

You win the thread.

Cedric

There's an interview with "Craig from craigslist" here . Gosh, that's a hard-hitting interview by that well-known journalist – anonymous. Tell me, Craig, just how wonderful are you? Just how much money are you giving us? Yep. The valve was definitely set to "GUSH" on that one. I hadn't noticed befo...

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greyed.out.fields wrote:
Tarc wrote: E.D. dying off would not be a bad thing.
And nothing of value was lost?

Cedric

No doubt the supporters of Wikitribune will say that of course the existing press will try and run down Wikitribune - they see it as a dangerous rival. The more they attack it, the more proof that it is potentially a great success that will supersede conventional newspapers. Yes, sort of like how s...

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Randy from Boise wrote:P.S. Making stuff up here: I speculate that Wales' real "employer" of record, Fabulous Fun Phone UK Ltd. or whatever that racket is called . . . .

Rackety McRacketface.

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Poetlister wrote:No doubt the King of Saudi Arabia or one of his aides will be shortlisted for Wikipedian of the Year.

Could be. Like his friend Tony Blair, Jimbo has a thing for oil-rich despots.

Cedric

But the Pelgrim Fathers left from Delfshaven, we sold New York to the English, we have Rembrand and we have Wikipedia-NL! All unique in the world! The Dutch governor of what is now New York, Peter Stuyvesant, is probably best remembered for having a brand of cigarettes named after him. Nah. It's be...

Cedric

You're making a fire pile when you have a foundation in America, chapters in different country's who gets money out of america, servers all over the world, etc. And Wiki lawyers without qualifications, who are correct by people with four years of primary school, who even can't write English! Now, n...

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Poetlister wrote:The new General Counsel is someone called Eileen Hershenov. Apparently, Michelle Paulson has decided this is a good time to move on to something new. We can only speculate what she wants to do.

. . . or what she is attempting to escape.

Cedric

There is some discussion, including by our friend Rogol, over whether Jimbo can continue to be a trustee of WMF since Wikitribune is a conflict of interest. It won't go anywhere of course; he survived similar claims over Wikia. Did he? I thought Jimbo was forced off of the board at Wikia many years...

Cedric

This is high-class POV edit-warring. If you can stop the other side linking to sites that support their case, obviously it gives you a distinct advantage. Some people are rather cleverer at it than JzG, of course. He's charging around like a rhino on steroids, attracting too much attention. Well, h...

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I wonder how well this slide went over with the crowd when Saskia Jasmin Ehlers was delivering her presentation ? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/99/Imbalance-_Wikimania_2016.pdf/page34-619px-Imbalance-_Wikimania_2016.pdf.jpg Something like this, I would imagine: m48xii7ndcg

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thekohser wrote:Apparently my "chummy" relationship with "Sangerites" is preventing a new policy regarding paid editing on Wikipedia.

Feh. Typical paranoid bullshit from The Angriest Cyclist in England. He probably thinks Greg is "tapping his wires" as well. Sad!

Cedric

Poetlister wrote:Should we just retitle the thread "Calling Yngvadottir"?

I prefer "Yngvadottir, Clean-Up on Aisle 3."

Cedric

Guy Chapman (JzG) assures the WikiFaithful that this will all blow over soon, but not before Rupert Sheldrake and I conspire with the Daily Mail to feed them "the usual crap". Hmmm. Perhaps you and Rupert will zap their tiny little minds with the help of your psychic pet friends. http://i527.photob...

Cedric

On another slightly related note, if you compare crime rates between London and New York for anything other than murder, they're pretty similar. I might go so far as to say that New York is a somewhat safer city. At least Americans are getting some sort of benefit from having the highest incarcerat...

Cedric

A striking https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2017-02-27/Op-ed&oldid=767850020,opinion piece by Guy Macon . The "cancer", in case you were wondering, is the Foundation. Guy calls for a reduction in the spending and fund-raising, and is critical of the WMF attemp...

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thekohser wrote:Not without a heaping spoonful of irony hypocrisy, Jimmy Wales tricks editor Eoin Blackwell into writing a twisted tale about the subjects of truth and being Jimbo.

FTFY

Cedric

Even if they hadn't banned me from making comments there, I still wouldn't give them a farthing. Nothing of value will be lost.

Cedric

Randy from Boise wrote:Half a million bucks = three incompetent engineers running Starbucks tabs in San Francisco.

RfB

It's The Wiki Way!

Cedric

Somebody might be hunting for a new job, after The People's Operator... Jimbo loves Deliveroo . Jimbo manipulates Deliveroo's Wikipedia reputation to be more favorable. The press have signaled that Jimbo and Deliveroo's CEO are "London tech influencers". ...pieces of a puzzle... For some curious re...

Cedric

We have smaller but smarter rat/rats bailing from the sinking ship, and we have a new all-time low - 2.50. Yet one of TPOPs leadership is hobnobbing with the exalted as if nothing is happening. YEEEEEESSSSSS! Tuppenny hapenny has been achieved! :headbanger: :banana: :headbanger: :banana: :headbange...

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Randy from Boise wrote:I really, really don't understand why this individual is held in such high esteem here.

The way he called out Jimmy Wales on his bullshit (with facts, evidence and logic, oh my!) has a great deal to do with it. Otherwise, I don't know.

Cedric · Re: The People's Smooth Operator February 15, 2017.

February 15, 2017.

Cedric

This isnt as bad as it sounds. . . . Remember one of the main complaints about the WMF is the lack of actual progress internally. Giving the ED more power to effect change is one way to deal with this. Given the board's selection process for the ED position, and the ever increasing estrangement of ...

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arthur wrote:Yeah, readers hoping to find something encyclopaedic in an encyclopaedia Wikipedia are the fools.

FTFY

Cedric

Basically, my feeling is the WMF has never really given a shit about volunteers, or content. It took them years to take on responsibilities for child protection, for example, and it was very much near the bottom of their list of priorities (or rather near the top of their list of responsibilities t...

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Given that I haven't fully forgiven Brad for his role in facilitating my Star Chamber event ban from the New York Law School Wikiconference That's given. Do you do that "forgiving" thing a lot? I do it if the culprit apologizes sincerely. I don't think I ever got that from Brad. From a "litigation ...

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Jimbo had the not-so-brilliant idea of placing a banner to American users of Wikipedia, to get out the vote . The idea was shot down, for the most part, by intelligent editors. (Idiots like Jytdog were in support.) Anyway, when a user with nearly a year's experience on Wikipedia pointed out that as...

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Poetlister wrote:
Eclipsed wrote:Missing: Richard Symonds (T-H-L) (but oh my, what should the disambiguated name be? Richard Symonds (wikipedian) (T-H-L) ? )
Richard Symonds (naval officer impostor)? Richard Symonds (political activist)?

FTFY

Cedric

Kelly Martin wrote:All of this makes me wonder if any of Wikipedia's alleged hoaxes are actually not hoaxes, and thus the hoax is itself the hoax.

Like Barnum's fake Cardiff Giant, perhaps? Hmmm . . . .

Cedric

Sorry I'm tardy to the party folks--I have been and am still on vacation. I can confirm that Midsized Jake is correct; I was the first to use the phrase "hasten the day" on WR with reference to the (self) destruction of the Wikipedia website (this is why I have referred to myself as "The Sole Flound...

Cedric

They can never fix it. They just react to idiocy that is brought to attention for mockery. Meanwhile as they fix that one piece 10s, 100s, maybe even 1000s of bits of foolishness are added. IOW they simply scrub the visible shit from the middle of the carpet. At no point do they fix the fact that t...

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milowent wrote:he seems committed, which is a critical thing for the Signpost, so I expect he will be willing to hear criticism in the context of that position.

Cedric

Jimmy Wales - Wikipedia's own Donald Trump. I've said it before,b ut why not: my decade of observing Jimmy Wales makes understanding Donald Trump oh-so-much easier. They're clearly instances of the same set of malfunctions. It's much more purely expressed in Trump than it is in Wales, but you can s...

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JW is right that the fix is as easy as making a proper redirect, which takes about 5 seconds. Of course, he spends 15 minutes writing an email that calls for WMF Engineering to fundamentally change the software, and we all know how that ends. RfB He is, however, correct that MediaWiki's search func...

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Johnny Au wrote:Good thing the Ice Cream Wars have nothing to do with the Old Firm.

I suppose so, but I cannot imagine why the Monarchy would involve itself in such a dispute.

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SB_Johnny wrote:Strange and awkward thread here saying goodbye to a good/bad collective frienemy.

It's always like that with frienemies; it can't be helped. RIP Kevin.

Cedric

Jim wrote:Cas. It's an opinion. Opinions don't need sources, or diffs. One is allowed to have opinions. People will agree or disagree. Clue - this is not wikipedia.

. . . bu . . . bu . . . bu . . . only those who are Not Of The Body have opinions or disagree. Heretic! Landru, help us!!

Cedric

Gamaliel will be the communications chair (whatever that means) for WikiConference North America 2016, to be held in San Diego. This is contingent on the organizers extracting $50k from the foundation. Well that seems like a bad idea. What? Having Gameylilt in charge of "communications"? Or is it s...

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Randy from Boise wrote:In short: if the MMORPG model is applicable at all, it is descriptive only of the behavior of a small subset of WP's core volunteer community in my view.

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thekohser wrote:You're likely thinking of Sarah Stierch.

Or was it another of a more boyfriend-shooting, drunk driving, check kiting variety?

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