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thekohser wrote:The Jimbo Effect may be taking over The Guardian.

They also recently ran a griftathon featuring a series of familiar-looking banners:

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I'm sure Jimbo's new search engine won't be at all "google-like" - it'll use a different font for a start. And won't work very well. The other identified risk on the last page of the PDF is the hiring and retaining of good people: In the San Francisco Bay Area, hiring top engineering staff, and reta...

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eagle wrote:Our Executive Director strikes me as a capable and intelligent person, and the Community lacks a common vocabulary for communicating complicated ideas.

You mean, for initiating ideation.

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Both Gail and Jimmy are leaders in their respective fields...

I suppose that's a polite way of glossing over that subject.

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After Flow rendered Wikipedia:WikiProject Breakfast (T-H-L) moribund within months of deployment, an RFC now seeks permission to pull the plug permanently: RFC - Remove Flow from WikiProject Breakfast?

Caution: RFC link contains slow-loading, confusing, threaded mess.

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Jim wrote:
...I don't think it will be possible to overturn the election, but it's what should be done... Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 20:55, 29 November 2015

Douglas Adams wrote:If you've done six impossible things this morning, why not round it off with breakfast at Milliways, the Restaurant at the End of the Universe.

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Two years on, Jimbo's top business message is still the same: "fail faster!", dammit!

He must be delighted those TPO stock price falls have picked up speed lately.

From BBC: CEO Secrets: Five tips from tech titans (sic)

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Some guy called Jimmy Wales doesn't like it though: Wikipedia Founder Jimmy Wales Says Apple Should Stop Selling iPhone In UK If Encryption Backdoor Law Is Passed.

That'll learn 'em.

Seems to be one of those "news" stories created out of a single Tweet.

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Here's some PR puff that TechWeekEurope regurgitated on behalf of TPO's public relations department: The People’s Operator: IPO And Jimmy Wales Give Charity-Focused MVNO Credibility Steve McCaskill TechWeekEurope October 19, 2015 Here's some inspiration , shurely? http://twitter.com/jimmy_wales/sta...

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Neu! 4 ... Rother had no objection to fans buying the CD secondhand and would always leave open the possibility that Neu! 4 could be reissued legally with his consent in the future. Rother and Dinger did attempt to negotiate such a release after the official reissue of the first three albums. In Ma...

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Peryglus wrote:Hey, and there's a mini-argument kicking off at Talk:Esino Lario (T-H-L) about whether to actually mention Wikimania in the article for Esino Lario. Surprising that Wikipedians aren't jumping at the chance for a little self-promotion.

Tsk, tsk, a clear not a crystal ball violation.

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Why do WMUK need to be located where they are? Their office is about 150m from Old Street Roundabout, which has come to be thought of as the centre of the so-called East London Tech City . I think that speaks volumes about their sense of self-importance. At least the list of "notable technology com...

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Surely she's a visual metaphor for crowd-sourcing in action, her Starfleet uniform giving due weight to "Randy from Tatooine"'s input?

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So, wait, Harris quit the WMF in order to become an indie game designer ? On that Facebook thread, he mentions that "one of the reasons I left EA to join the Foundation was, ostensibly, so that I could get back to making games. And I didn't do any of that." But I don't think it has been confirmed t...

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From, ahem, JormosaurusRex on Facebook: After four and a half years, my Wikipedia stock options have fully vested. Thus, it is with mixed emotions that I announce that today is my last day as an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation He then had to clarify that a bit: Having already been accused of tr...

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Maybe a campaign song? Stanistani, so good they named him twice Stanistani, all the scandal and the vice (they love it) Stanistani, now isn't it a pity That Wikipedia governance has traditionally been so self-serving and ineffectual? It could probably use a better last line. (With apologies to Gerar...

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Speaking of vowel-less usernames beginning with W, I can't understand what's keeping wllm from throwing his hat into the ring. Surely it's the next logical step in his wikidevelopment? Coincidentally, one of the few people to respond to wiiam's latest on-wiki screed about Offwiki is Wbm1058 ( 633836...

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+1 - noticed a typo on "Youngh" in paragraph 5 though.

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He has made "fewer than 4000 edits"; not "less than 4000 edits". Notvelty is obviously gunning for my job here. Well of course I loved the book, but, Bret, didn't you mean 'Fewer than Zero'? http://falcon.tamucc.edu/~tmurphy/writers/Ellis/lessthan01st1.png To which B.E.E. would reply: "Of course no...

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What about wannabe employees? Abstain Please review the WMF's mission statement. The question of whether MV "empowers" people or not is a matter of opinion. The role of the WMF with respect to RfC's is not. Lila, the Board, and anyone under employment with the WMF has no obligation whatsoever to ma...

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I would re-tweet his hypocritical snark, but... "You have been blocked from retweeting this user's Tweets at their request." You have at least two options. You could start a second Twitter account, though maybe you'd be thrown off Twitter for sockpuppetry. You could manually type a tweet that says ...

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It's a bit titchy isn't it? Who commissioned it, Nigel Tufnel (T-H-L)?

And what's that fugly crap that the figures are standing on supposed to represent?

Apart from "the quickest/cheapest way to get all the genitalia up to eye-level, so that hopefully no one will trip over the thing".

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Latest rather sparsely-attended IRC office hours on VE ( link ) explain why those chess pawn symbols unexpectedly kept appearing in VE-edited articles. Turns out they were part of what WMF Engineering calls a "clever trick", or what normal software developers would call a "dirty great hack". Good ne...

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thekohser wrote:
Randy from Boise wrote:...which is why Wikipedia continues to improve...
And subvert otherwise rational minds!

It does seem to be Wikipedia's big lie (T-H-L).

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Of course, Lydon is also a bona fide rock star, a staunch anti-authority figure, and an uncompromising defender of the way he chooses to use the English language against all-comers, because offence is always taken, never given. A girlfriend of mine in the 1970s had a flat right underneath two of th...

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I would suggest it almost certainly is a class/cultural thing. Quite. I'm sure that it gets used a lot in traditional male working class workplaces such as building sites. Probably got used a lot in middle class lefty circles too in the 60s and 70s but then was phased out when feminism got incorpor...

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I would suggest it almost certainly is a class/cultural thing. Quite. I'm sure that it gets used a lot in traditional male working class workplaces such as building sites. Probably got used a lot in middle class lefty circles too in the 60s and 70s but then was phased out when feminism got incorpor...

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Fuck me backwards, that's a shock. FWIW, I hear the word on a daily basis. Sometimes it's in a friendly way "you daft cunt", but often it's not "what the fuck did you do that for, you stupid cunt"? But the point is that Wikipedia's glorious leader is trying to use it to paint Corbett as a misogynis...

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The Constitutional Monarch demonstrates civility with members of the community:

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While that may be a way to improve the situation- I've often heard this proposed to handle the most extreme examples of bad behavior that might put vulnerable members of the community, like minors, in danger, but it might solve other issues such as running grudges and enemy vs. ally thinking, too- ...

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Dr. Blofeld (T-C-L) redacts a bunch of his own JimboTalk comments ("I give up") and embarks on a wikibreak.

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The ultimate arbiters of whose version is the "reliable" version, linked at the top of the current article, will be the Wikipedia editors. But, yes, it's going to require some thought, and some policy-writing. I thought the idea was to have external reviewers, chosen on the basis of demonstrable in...

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1. As we have seen (at least those looking at the question with even a modicum of objectivity), content tends to either be preserved or improved over time. "Degradation" is a myth. Degradation is no myth. If an article has online sources, and those sources go offline, then the article has degraded ...

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If only Google could distinguish the reliable articles from the unreliable ones! That would solve a raft of problems. (1) If a version of a Wikipedia article has passed rigorous independent expert review, put a badge at the top of the current, dynamic version, linking the reader to the reviewed ver...

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Poetlister wrote:
Vigilant wrote:Perhaps it could be surrounded with a spiral staircase culminating in an open air urinal.
Surely stairs like these would be appropriate.

Would make a fitting tribute to Möller the Architect.

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thekohser wrote:Note that only men are allowed to support Wikipedia, and they have to have their dongs out.

They represent Wikimedia Commons I guess?

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Shift towards loosely coupled services This is one of the worst mistakes you can ever make in software design theory. "Loosely coupled services" leads to a lot of different and new widgets, all which use a different and unfamiliar UI. Multiple unmaintainable monoliths instead of just the one. And t...

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Interesting contrast between Möller's focus on cool tools, hiring new people and generally throwing money at the problem, and Purple's apparent wish to impose some basic structure and organisation on the resultant mess. And I'm sensing quite a bit of tension between Möller's: Continued shortening of...

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There was also some talk on this site about whether WMF splitting things into Engineering + Product was some sort of demotion forced upon Mr. Möller, with the consensus emerging here that to the contrary it bolstered his position in the bureaucracy by adding a layer of "protection" keeping him and ...

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"Improvement and quality are unrelated terms." :rotfl: Sure, and yet my digital copy of the OED defines "improve" (in what it describes as "the prevailing modern sense") as: "to advance or raise to a better quality or condition". Who to believe! :rotfl: Believe Tim. I do. So long as it stagnates, i...

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Jim wrote:"Improvement and quality are unrelated terms."

Sure, and yet my digital copy of the OED (T-H-L) defines "improve" (in what it describes as "the prevailing modern sense") as: "to advance or raise to a better quality or condition".

Who to believe!

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I wonder if Randy from Boise considers this to be "improving Wikipedia" or not? Looks good to me. Doesn't fit the suggested testing metrics though... :notsosure: There are testing metrics? :dubious: Yeah, Tim defined them earlier: Bigger is better. No questions asked. Inaccurate crap is better than...

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Jim wrote:
thekohser wrote:I wonder if Randy from Boise considers this to be "improving Wikipedia" or not?
Looks good to me. Doesn't fit the suggested testing metrics though...

There are testing metrics?

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In a recent ‘arbcom case’, Brad linked to this essay as though it were by Oliver Wendell Holmes or Charles Lamb. It is an attempt to engage with the ‘vexed question’ of how Wikipedians should handle someone whom they suspect is the second (or third, or fortieth) coming of banned user, but who is ‘e...

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I don't know if this has already been noted, but en.wiki has apparently had a version of its article on Dengue fever peer-reviewed and accepted for publication in this prestigious online medical journal . Has that version been protected against "improvement"? I don't think so - it's semi-protected,...

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This really is one of the stupidest cases by far. I guess they just regretted accepting it in the end, and all they could do was "admonishments" and a punt at banning Tarc. They're not very clever, as a body, after all, even if some of them are individually. They're not even admonishments in this c...

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I don't know if this has already been noted, but en.wiki has apparently had a version of its article on Dengue fever peer-reviewed and accepted for publication in this prestigious online medical journal . (In truth, I know nothing about this journal, and careful consultation of the Wikipedia article...

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Doxxing to a home address (or even city) is rude and borderline creepy but noting that he's active on the Internet in highly misogynist places is a perfectly valid observation . <snip the icky> ... It's basically just a bit of googling and noting publicly available information . And yet, when folks...

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Mr. Purple takes time out to greet his potential-new-best-friend with some egregiously patronising drivel/arslikhan : Hi Damon, looking forward to meeting you. I'd like to welcome you not only to WMF, but to the wikimedia-l list. I encourage you to join the discussions here, even if you feel like yo...

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How exactly the split between Product and Engineering works is a bit difficult for the outsider to understand. Erik has offered this explanation : Damon is in charge of the following areas as of today, and handover is underway: - Platform Engineering - Features Engineering - Language Engineering - ...

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