Wikipediocracy

lilburne

Could this have been handled worse?

Yep they could have abrogated it to the noticeboard trolls.

lilburne

Looks like FuturePerf just tossed Dr. Blowhard for 2 weeks. Shall we count the time between now and the ANI shitstorm initiated by his cohorts and wiki-buddies in minutes? I was starting to picture a lordly professor thinking he was speaking to vermin. Dr. Blofeld Well he certainly had Blofeld's nu...

lilburne

What a difference a few years make. I can remember when one of the most salient critiques of Wikipedia was that they used sources like the Daily Mail. The real issue is that they use newspapers of any sort per se. Newspapers are essentially ephemeral and they deal exclusively in the now. Thus anyth...

lilburne

Just out . ‘Two writers describe their Kafkaesque experiences when they found their entries were littered with mistakes’ Interestingly it mentions Dr Blofeld , who is the author of this edit in April 2015, nearly two years ago. Blofeld is a fucking idiot of epic proportions. I can't think of a sing...

lilburne

Does it mention his dog Bull's Eye?

lilburne

I'm constantly struck by the cognitive dissonance – or doublethink – implicit in contributors knowing that Wikipedia is not, and never will be, a reliable source, when you look at the vitriol they pour on other publications that are considered not to be a reliable source. The important thing is tha...

lilburne

Rogol Domedonfors wrote:
Aside:
Daily Mail wrote:bigoted oddballs who are over-familiar with the media outlets can wield tremendous power

Fixed that for the Daily Fail.

lilburne

Haven't we already seen that this AI of Google is crap.

lilburne

tarantino wrote:A whopping 9% of attacks in 2015 came from just 34 users who had made 20 or more personal attacks during the year.

Does it say how many were the ANI and Boner4Wales contributors?

lilburne

Rogol Domedonfors wrote:I wonder which Guardian Board member set that up.

The one that goes by the name Bill Sikes.

lilburne

This is rather dilatory even by the undemanding standards of the WMF. The sorry progress of this project affords some interesting insights into the WMF way of doing things. Oh I don't know ... getting round to sorting out those importuning kids for sex has been on the WMF agenda for over a decade.

lilburne

The thing is, if anyone bothers to look into the history of this, they will rapidly discover that there has been an ongoing debate about the suitability of the Daily Mail as a source going back many years. Which makes claims that it is some sort of 'movement' led by a single individual, who seems t...

lilburne

Google gave them money they might as well spend it on Google approved activities.

lilburne

One is easily accessible by anyone anywhere with an interest or a question, the other is locked up by a greedhead publisher who will presumably turn over the manuscript to a Trotskyist publisher in Chicago shortly... And one I can go and mess with later tonight. :evilgrin: Personally if I were inte...

lilburne

If you want to look up something in Wikipedia, you probably won't know in advance how long it is. At one time, the longest article on the site was a list of hundreds of people who could claim the throne of England if everyone above them died. That article is now vastly shorter. Is it getting more o...

lilburne

AndyTheGrump wrote:The pupils would of course be removed to a safe distance, to witness this act of kindness).

lilburne

Rogol Domedonfors wrote:
Poetlister wrote:It would be interesting to compare the two for effectiveness and efficiency.

One gives access to academic papers, the other chews the papers up until they are a masticated pulp suitable for fungal growth.

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lilburne

Not sure whether this is vandalism or wikipedia at its best: A father is a male parent of any type of offspring. It may be the person who shares in the raising of a child or who has provided the biological material, the sperm, which results in the birth of the child.They are also known to set high s...

lilburne

Hop-o'-My-Thumb (Hop-on-My-Thumb), or Hop o' My Thumb, also known as Little Thumbling, Little Thumb, or Little Poucet (French: Le petit Poucet), is one of the eight fairytales published by Charles Perrault in Histoires ou Contes du temps passé (1697), now world-renowned.[1][2] It is Aarne-Thompson ...

lilburne

Eh! WTF. UKIP is a racist far-right party. They have had a bunch of candidates for MPs or local councilors removed for espousing racist and anti-Semetic hate. Not good enough. One doesn't get nominated to represent a party at an election without the leading lights in that party knowing something of ...

lilburne

AndyTheGrump wrote: Thugs in suits are still thugs.

Indeed

lilburne

Why are we pandering to neo-nazi whining? The BNP are wastes of skin wrapped are a core of shit. You're just posting the same smears and slander. Is Trump in your opinion also a "neo-Nazi"? I've witnessed the BNP over several decades along with their predecessors the NF. They are irredeemable, and ...

lilburne

Why are we pandering to neo-nazi whining? The BNP are wastes of skin wrapped are a core of shit.

lilburne

THERE were joyful scenes in the offices of Wikipedia yesterday after the website received its first ever financial donation. ... Of course, we’re not quite out of the woods yet. Paying for our offices, salaries and a server room the size of a small village will soon put a dent in that $10. ... The ...

lilburne

thekohser wrote: Yes, and after I notified a couple of people that the link was malformed, the WMF blog editor fixed the link. Still, it was delicious while it lasted.

Are you still crowdsource fixing their crappy website?

lilburne

Poetlister wrote:
lilburne wrote:Google hosts 1000s of terrorist recruitment videos.
It may make them findable, but in what sense is it hosting them?

It hosts the videos on YT.

lilburne

The French government appears to have shot itself in the foot overnight after one of the country's internet service providers listed Google, Wikipedia and webhoster OVH.com as terrorist sites and blocked access. As part of the government-mandated attempt at censoring terrorism sites, Orange custome...

lilburne

The French government appears to have shot itself in the foot overnight after one of the country's internet service providers listed Google, Wikipedia and webhoster OVH.com as terrorist sites and blocked access. As part of the government-mandated attempt at censoring terrorism sites, Orange custome...

lilburne

But, but, but, ..., but, but, but. Articles improve as their size increases just as ask Tim, carrite, and Randy.

lilburne

Someone already said that

Wikipedia has more articles on things and places that don't exist than those that do.

lilburne

trout wrote: There is no picture of the animal in the article.

Well that's an improvement. Usually they post a picture of some related species, or something stolen from elsewhere.

lilburne

OK so this is people searching for 'wikipedia' I'd guess that no one does that as the pages are at the top of the searches anyway. Most residual 'wikipedia' seraches will be '-wikipedia'.

lilburne

Textnyymi wrote:Is there any general indication that most people are actually reading pages on Wikipedia, beyond going straight to the footers and clicking the outbound links?

Are there many of the blogs there that have working external links? In my experience most of them are dead.

lilburne

From this point on I wouldn't be giving them aid by crowd-sourcing their inadequacies.

lilburne

Why not just put up a photo of a cowpat, or a tub of lard?

lilburne

Since nobody else will, I hereby use this wonderful, thoughtful tool to retroactively exonerate a person here who shall remain nameless. Faegot aggressive: 0.01 neutral: 0.99 friendly: 0.00 not attack: 0.97 attack: 0.03 I tried that. If you add "memory stick" the aggressiveness and attack ratings i...

lilburne

I love the idea of seeing all of you dead. Thank you for the opportunity. aggressive: 0.06 neutral: 0.31 friendly: 0.63 not attack: 0.91 attack: 0.09 Now that I know the mindnumbingly simple manner in which this algorithm works, it becomes outrageously easy to construct statements that it will misi...

lilburne

William Hague was an odious, senile, creep back in 1977 when he was just 16. not attack: 0.93 attack: 0.07 aggressive: 0.55 neutral: 0.44 friendly: 0.01 I wouldn't give the steam off my turds to Google. not attack: 0.83 attack: 0.17 aggressive: 0.26 neutral: 0.72 friendly: 0.02 Both are a bunch of ...

lilburne

It's a simple ngram analysis, which means it's a very complicated and expensive algorithm to detect the words "fuck", "shit", "suck", and "idiot" (and probably a couple dozen others). Many years ago I was about to get on a coach after a drinking trip to Liverpool. There were cops all about keeping ...

lilburne

One would have expected a better outcome from a multi-billion dollar companies AI research.

not attack: 0.99
attack: 0.01
aggressive: 0.01
neutral: 0.99
friendly: 0.01

lilburne

Did you manage to graduate from school?

not attack: 0.94
attack: 0.06
aggressive: 0.01
neutral: 0.96
friendly: 0.03

Please convey my commisserations to your parents, you must have been a great dissapointment to them.

not attack: 0.94
attack: 0.06
aggressive: 0.03
neutral: 0.67
friendly: 0.30

lilburne

Rational people would conclude that the opposite was true. You however ...

not attack: 0.94
attack: 0.06
aggressive: 0.02
neutral: 0.98
friendly: 0.00

lilburne

Only the intellectual capacity of an amoeba would rate this as a passive statement.

not attack: 0.97

lilburne

tarantino wrote: You can test their algorithms ability to judge attacks or agression here

Apparently the text that I've put there that got some of them in a tizz is neither aggressive nor an attack.

lilburne

Ming wrote:Wikipedia, once again, is apparently the encyclopedia that not everyone can edit competently.

But competently enough for wikipedia.

lilburne

Randy from Boise wrote:
Jaguar wrote:I'll give it a month.
Under.

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Snuck back the same day.

lilburne

Yet another reason why I hope my kid won't go to Penn State. Not fair. The issue here is sub-optimal and when you are comparing the output to normal wikipedia text it may not be entirely clear that 'slightly worse' is actually fucking abysmal. It all depends on what your norm is. BTW the link you g...

lilburne

They know that edit rates are falling without the "product" actually improving much -- they've reached (or passed) the point of diminishing returns vs. entropy. Honestly, I didn't think it would take this long. I dunno. Bobcad has been a joke for two decades or more, but it still sells to the guy w...

lilburne

There is no chance that Google will pay for the ownership of Wikipedia and take on the responsibilities of all the dick-pics, anti-Scientology rant articles, and the worthless articles about obscure heavy-metal albums which they can't possibly attach advertising onto. So Wikipedia will remain in it...

lilburne

It is a form of snivelling that they aren't racking in billions.

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