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- Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:54 am
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Persistent bias on Wikipedia - Brian Martin
- Replies: 73
- Views: 6711
Re: Persistent bias on Wikipedia - Brian Martin
Arguably, attempts to censor vaccine critics in Australia are counterproductive, generating more attention to critical views than would have happened otherwise. [...] By opposing censorship of vaccine critics, I may be serving the agenda of vaccination proponents who favour respectful conversations...
- Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:59 pm
- Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
- Topic: WP: Fact or Fiction? - by Loudwire
- Replies: 85
- Views: 2225
- Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:29 pm
- Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
- Topic: WP: Fact or Fiction? - by Loudwire
- Replies: 85
- Views: 2225
Re: Jason Newsted Plays 'Wikipedia: Fact or Fiction?'
I think the Bob Rock error is gone; at least I can't find it today. Nah, still there. Rock altered Metallica's working schedule and routine so much that the members swore never to work with him again.[15] The cited source says, Producer Bob Rock says Metallica’s 1991 “Black Album” “wasn't a fun, ea...
- Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:36 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Persistent bias on Wikipedia - Brian Martin
- Replies: 73
- Views: 6711
Re: Persistent bias on Wikipedia - Brian Martin
I'm sure Jimmy's being thoughtful about it. The most thoughtful comment came from Bilby : I don't believe that the main concerns that Martin has with the article are based on the current version. He has concerns - some justified, some not - but the real issue he had was with the earlier state and t...
- Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:28 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Persistent bias on Wikipedia - Brian Martin
- Replies: 73
- Views: 6711
Re: Persistent bias on Wikipedia - Brian Martin
First of all, :welcome: Whatever differences of opinion we may have (and I think they may ultimately be quite serious) and regardless of how snide and invective-full my commentary may be leveled against you or your public figure, it is always good when dialog opens up and I commend you for dipping ...
- Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:37 am
- Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
- Topic: WP: Fact or Fiction? - by Loudwire
- Replies: 85
- Views: 2225
Re: Jason Newsted Plays 'Wikipedia: Fact or Fiction?'
http://loudwire.com/jason-newsted-wikipedia-fact-or-fiction/,Newsted corrected some fiction when we brought up a Wikipedia entry about Black Album producer Bob Rock. Wikipedia states Rock altered Metallica’s working schedule and routine so much that the band swore never to record with him again, bu...
- Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:11 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Persistent bias on Wikipedia - Brian Martin
- Replies: 73
- Views: 6711
Re: Persistent bias on Wikipedia - Brian Martin
Welcome to WPO, Brian. I did put a link to your piece on Jimbotalk ([link]https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AJimbo_Wales&type=revision&diff=797679299&oldid=797674411[/link]), so rest assured that your words have probably made it to the individuals at Wikipedia needing to hear th...
- Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:55 am
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: Cost of participation (paywalls, conference costs etc.)
- Replies: 31
- Views: 1246
Re: Cost of participation (paywalls, conference costs etc.)
The scholarship criteria for Wikimania are interesting.
I was surprised by the extent to which content creation seems to be de-emphasised in favour of various forms of social interaction (incl. tool building).
I was surprised by the extent to which content creation seems to be de-emphasised in favour of various forms of social interaction (incl. tool building).
- Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:28 pm
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: Cost of participation (paywalls, conference costs etc.)
- Replies: 31
- Views: 1246
Re: Cost of participation (paywalls, conference costs etc.)
Two Jimmy Wales quotes from that page: First, I think it's a really interesting idea to think about how the WMF might negotiate for bulk discounts for access for individual Wikipedians to the archives of newspapers (to be paid for by the WMF). I totally disagree with Carrite's cynicism and negativis...
- Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:48 pm
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: Cost of participation (paywalls, conference costs etc.)
- Replies: 31
- Views: 1246
Cost of participation (paywalls, conference costs etc.)
Increasing numbers of news outlets (including the Washington Post and the New York Times) are restricting free access to their online publications. There is now a discussion about the costs volunteers incur to access paywalled sources, and the lack of help provided by WMF to date. Plus a mention of ...
- Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:00 pm
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: Whataboutism
- Replies: 6
- Views: 533
Re: Whataboutism
Re-tweeted by Sue Gardner:
From over here, the US seems a little nuts these days. (While that certainly includes the president, it also, surprisingly, includes a lot of those opposing him.)
From over here, the US seems a little nuts these days. (While that certainly includes the president, it also, surprisingly, includes a lot of those opposing him.)
- Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:01 pm
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: More than we thought
- Replies: 6
- Views: 279
Re: More than we thought
Well it now says, This goal turned out to be attainable within two years of hard work, and has grown to nearly 5.5 million , by the time of writing this. Of course it's still not quite right, as the goal is clearly more than 5.5 million, but with a small improvement every day, it'll one day be perfe...
- Mon Aug 07, 2017 5:57 pm
- Forum: Jimboland
- Topic: The People's Smooth Operator
- Replies: 1130
- Views: 257820
Re: The People's Smooth Operator
I'm not sure what the current situation is now – is Wales still involved in TPO and drawing a salary from them at this time?
- Mon Aug 07, 2017 9:10 am
- Forum: News and Media
- Topic: Wikitribune - the next great Wales failure
- Replies: 747
- Views: 127944
Re: Wikitribune - the next great Wales failure
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk ... .WikipediaKingsindian wrote:I am not sure where I read it: it's just a vague memory. I might just be mistaken.
- Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:13 pm
- Forum: News and Media
- Topic: Keywords to Grow Your Organic Visibility
- Replies: 2
- Views: 198
Keywords to Grow Your Organic Visibility
https://www.searchenginejournal.com/fin ... ]Wikipedia is such an important source of semantic data that Google’s Knowledge Graph behaves as if it is built in large part on top of it as a platform.[/quote]
- Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:13 am
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: Declared paid editor for Michael Caputo's PR company
- Replies: 2
- Views: 468
Declared paid editor for Michael Caputo's PR company
Baldassn (T-C-L) has belatedly declared themselves a paid editor for Zeppelin Communications, run by Michael R. Caputo (T-H-L) and Sergey George Petrushin (T-H-L).
- Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:28 pm
- Forum: News and Media
- Topic: All BLPs should be locked down. Period.
- Replies: 42
- Views: 1192
Re: All BLPs should be locked down. Period.
1. Can someone (as in some contributor, not the WMF) be sued for their contributions to a Wikipedia BLP? 2. Has anyone been sued (or threatened with a suit)? It may be worth reiterating that, as most regulars here are aware, from a legal standpoint the WMF is neither responsible nor liable for anyt...
- Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:18 am
- Forum: News and Media
- Topic: All BLPs should be locked down. Period.
- Replies: 42
- Views: 1192
Re: All BLPs should be locked down. Period.
So you're saying the German Wikipedia hasn't grown at all in a couple of years? It is not as healthy as En-WP in terms of Very Active (100+/mo.) Editors. But let's see... Pulling up the stats... [link]https://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediansEditsGt100.htm[/link] German WP for May, last 5 ye...
- Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:03 pm
- Forum: Blog Posts
- Topic: Weasel Words Worry Wales - new blog post
- Replies: 16
- Views: 2781
Re: Weasel Words Worry Wales - new blog post
Never forget the classic "Wikipedia said..." and "According to Wikipedia..." Many journalists often forget that Wikipedia says nothing; it's the Wikipedians who add stuff in. A key point. Wikipedia contains vandalism, hoaxes and other unsourced rubbish added by anonymous drive-by editors that no on...
- Tue Aug 01, 2017 7:58 am
- Forum: News and Media
- Topic: All BLPs should be locked down. Period.
- Replies: 42
- Views: 1192
Re: All BLPs should be locked down. Period.
This has been going on for a long time. The solutions are well known. Jimmy had it within his power to fix. He still hasn't. Wales actually wanted pending changes; the community didn't. His power to decree such things by fiat vanished long ago. That's an interesting position. My recollections are d...
- Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:40 pm
- Forum: News and Media
- Topic: All BLPs should be locked down. Period.
- Replies: 42
- Views: 1192
Re: All BLPs should be locked down. Period.
Wales actually wanted pending changes; the community didn't. His power to decree such things by fiat vanished long ago.Vigilant wrote:This has been going on for a long time.
The solutions are well known.
Jimmy had it within his power to fix.
He still hasn't.
- Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:21 pm
- Forum: Sexism
- Topic: The gender gap gap
- Replies: 300
- Views: 86607
Re: The gender gap gap
They say that their findings are "broadly consistent" with related work, which used stuff like TIME articles and Encyclopedia Britannica articles. http://ijoc.org/index.php/ijoc/article/viewFile/777/631,Reagle and Rhue (2011) , whose paper is mentioned, found that "Wikipedia articles on women are m...
- Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:18 pm
- Forum: News and Media
- Topic: Wikipedia bans Daily Mail as 'unreliable' source for website
- Replies: 56
- Views: 2348
Re: Wikipedia bans Daily Mail as 'unreliable' source for web
Wikipedia bans Daily Mail as 'unreliable' source for website Online encyclopaedia editors rule out publisher as a reference citing ‘reputation for poor fact checking and sensationalism’ Wikipedia editors have voted to ban the Daily Mail as a source for the website in all but exceptional circumstanc...
- Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:49 am
- Forum: News and Media
- Topic: Wikipedia's impact on tourism
- Replies: 1
- Views: 192
- Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:24 pm
- Forum: Blog Posts
- Topic: Alexa - By Barbara Page
- Replies: 47
- Views: 26754
Re: Alexa - By Barbara Page
Of course, the relief one might obtain by taking action for infringement of one's moral rights in any Wikipedia article is hardly likely to be worth the expense. Doesn't this demonstrate once more how advantageous it is to the big players (including the WMF itself, arguably) that volunteers are not...
- Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:57 pm
- Forum: Blog Posts
- Topic: Alexa - By Barbara Page
- Replies: 47
- Views: 26754
- Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:36 am
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: Whataboutism
- Replies: 6
- Views: 533
Re: Whataboutism
What's completely missing in the article's lead is that "whataboutery" or "whataboutism" was widely used in reference to the Troubles in Northern Ireland. A quote that pops up every few years in retrospectives is this: Cardinal Cahal Daly once said: "Whataboutery is the commonest form of moral evasi...
- Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:53 am
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Litigation
- Replies: 8
- Views: 618
Re: Litigation
I'd hazard a guess that the WMF's divorce from Lila involved quite a bit of expensive legal consultation.
- Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:56 pm
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: Medical articles on Wikipedia
- Replies: 6
- Views: 656
Re: Medical articles on Wikipedia
This is a thread to look at the state of Wikipedia's medical articles their use by medical students, professionals etc. I have been casually searching the academic literature about the medical information on Wikipedia. Here is one, which looks at medical students' use of Wikipedia: Interesting. Reg...
- Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:24 pm
- Forum: Jimboland
- Topic: The People's Smooth Operator
- Replies: 1130
- Views: 257820
Re: The People's Smooth Operator
The shares un-zipped later in the afternoon and un-popped back to where they started the day. So much for the reliability of "fake news". Seriously, what news outlet could be said to be doing a good job reporting on this company without mentioning that the IPO was at 130 pence, and now it's at 3 pe...
- Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:26 pm
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: Monkey selfie & Commons
- Replies: 207
- Views: 20187
Re: Monkey selfie & Commons
I find it frustrating how eager some editors are to delete content based on purely theoretical or notional copyright issues, while fighting fiercely to keep and propagate content where the interested party actually wants it deleted and offers compelling grounds to do so. There is of course a common...
- Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:21 pm
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: Monkey selfie & Commons
- Replies: 207
- Views: 20187
Re: Monkey selfie & Commons
For what it's worth, I consider Wikipedia/Wikimedia's handling of the "monkey selfies" dispute to be appalling -- if not on a purely legal level, then certainly as a matter of fairness and decency. I've written about this on my wikiblog and in a Signpost article. (In preview, I see that someone jus...
- Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:22 pm
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: Monkey selfie & Commons
- Replies: 207
- Views: 20187
Re: Monkey selfie & Commons
The other day I posted a link to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2016-01-20/Op-ed,Newyorkbrad's Signpost op-ed on the monkey selfie on Wikipedia Weekly. I'm sure it must have been discussed here on WO at the time, but given that it's been a while, and there are some new pe...
- Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:08 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Trustee-to-be asks for money
- Replies: 39
- Views: 1217
Re: Trustee-to-be asks for money
It's certainly not unknown for Wikipedians with access to stuff behind paywalls to use it in their articles. They would no doubt say that they are making information free and benefiting the legendary little girl in Africa and so on. They rarely consider or care about the effect on the authors and p...
- Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:44 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Trustee-to-be asks for money
- Replies: 39
- Views: 1217
Re: Trustee-to-be asks for money
I guess it's useful that for once, WMF people are seeing the open access equation from the side of content creators – a perspective most otherwise seem deaf and blind to (cf. David Slater). It's a lot easier to demand that everyone else should publish open access papers than it is to cough up a few ...
- Sat Jul 08, 2017 8:34 am
- Forum: News and Media
- Topic: What can fact-checkers learn from Wikipedia?
- Replies: 27
- Views: 2487
Re: What can fact-checkers learn from Wikipedia?
I actually liked that interview. It mentioned twice that people should check citations, and acknowledged Wikipedia's limitations, including problems with bias and representation. What they strive for instead is an approximation of the truth — what humanity knows at any given time. Trust in this cont...
- Wed Jul 05, 2017 2:08 pm
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: SignPost is on Life Support
- Replies: 70
- Views: 7844
Re: SignPost is on Life Support
Afterwards, the WMF said they couldn't release the grant documentation because of "donor privacy". This seems to have been a flat-out lie, made with the connivance of the WMF board, because the Knight Foundation, when contacted about this, said they had no problem at all with the grant documentatio...
- Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:17 pm
- Forum: The Money Trail
- Topic: Contracting expanding
- Replies: 47
- Views: 13299
Re: Contracting expanding
Hmm... the fact that this WMF trustee's project is "for profit" was not mentioned in the French, German and Spanish Wikipedia articles on it, until very recently. The Spanish one went so far as to describe it as "non-profit".
Ah, Wikipedia. Ever reliable.
Ah, Wikipedia. Ever reliable.
- Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:02 pm
- Forum: The Money Trail
- Topic: Contracting expanding
- Replies: 47
- Views: 13299
Re: Contracting expanding
As I just said on Wikipedia Weekly, there is an inescapable irony in the fact that the WMF employs a political spinmeister (who's worked on two presidential election campaigns, among other things) to help it come up with the following strategy (page 35): Given today’s record levels of partisanship a...
- Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:27 am
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: SignPost is on Life Support
- Replies: 70
- Views: 7844
Re: SignPost is on Life Support
Good find, Tippi. :) Bluerasberry says, USD 5000 is requested. The publisher would be paid USD 100/week for publishing The Signpost. Weekly duties would be as follows: 1. Wrangle contributors to be timely with submitting content 2. Collect all content from contributors 3. Deliver submitted content t...
- Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:23 pm
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: SignPost is on Life Support
- Replies: 70
- Views: 7844
Re: SignPost is on Life Support
tarantino wrote:Caw!
- Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:20 pm
- Forum: The Money Trail
- Topic: Fundraising for this year
- Replies: 31
- Views: 7284
Re: Fundraising for this year
Orlowski's follow-up in The Register: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/12/19/jimmy_wales_breaks_promise_more_chugging?utm_content=buffer22079&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer,Jimbo Welshes on pledge to stop fundraising (Dec. 19) The Wikimedia Foundation won’t honour a pr...
- Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:16 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Article in Signpost about Wikipedia workshop in Namibia
- Replies: 11
- Views: 936
Re: Article in Signpost about Wikipedia workshop in Namibia
I have little knowledge of the whole business of workshops, but it's almost as if publicity is a goal in itself for the WMF, and the volunteer base isn't even an afterthought? Perhaps that's too cynical, I don't know. This Signpost op-ed is useful, especially in combination with the argument made b...
- Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:48 pm
- Forum: Jimboland
- Topic: The People's Smooth Operator
- Replies: 1130
- Views: 257820
Re: The People's Smooth Operator
The Times reports that " http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/investors-hang-up-on-wikipedia-founder-rz9w2xdc9,Investors hang up on Wikipedia founder ". The ethical telecoms company run by Jimmy Wales, the Wikipedia founder, is in danger of joining the infamous 90 per cent club after a trading statemen...
- Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:24 pm
- Forum: News and Media
- Topic: Reclaim the Internet
- Replies: 31
- Views: 5759
Re: Reclaim the Internet
For an AfD on Wikipedia, it's remarkably witty so far. Can that possibly last? It's furthermore remarkable for being https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&search=%22hungry+vagina%22&fulltext=Search&profile=all&searchToken=9a1j3jv2f8itm6pnfoww67hrk,the only Wikipedia page to date...
- Mon May 16, 2016 6:24 am
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: Wikimedia Foundation Staff Turnover
- Replies: 52
- Views: 3915
Re: Community Engagement, 3 resignations in 4 days
I'm going to split the more recent staff turnover into its own topic. An article with a timeline of hires and fires would be sweet. As far as I can seen, the https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AStaff_and_contractors&action=history&year=2016&month=5&tagfilter=,last 50 edits ...
- Mon May 09, 2016 2:46 am
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: James Heilman removed from WMF board
- Replies: 438
- Views: 62589
Re: James Heilman removed from WMF board
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-May/084078.html,Uh oh! Someone with balls on wikimedia-l :popcorn: Another interesting tidbit from Wikimedia-l, https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-May/084103.html,courtesy of Pete Forsyth : By the way, I think the WMF board ...
- Tue May 03, 2016 9:25 am
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: James Heilman removed from WMF board
- Replies: 438
- Views: 62589
Re: James Heilman removed from WMF board
I'm not seeing a swelling tide of outrage. I said some pretty incendiary things about his uselessness in some very public forums recently (quoted above) including suggesting he pack up and leave, and no one chimed in with support for my position. On the other hand, no one objected to my commentary,...
- Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:17 pm
- Forum: Jimboland
- Topic: Wikipedia boss to lobby China to unblock
- Replies: 42
- Views: 2605
Re: Wikipedia boss to lobby China to unblock
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=716032148&oldid=716018207,How quaint : I did misspeak once - I met with someone from the [Kazakh] Prime Minister's office (to lobby them for change), but did not meet the Prime Minister himself. (I would do so, by the way, if the...
- Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:06 pm
- Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
- Topic: Arbitrator mocks Trump in April 1st Signpost: BLP issue?
- Replies: 1085
- Views: 58940
Re: It was just a prank bro!!
So if I make a false page that denigrates and makes false claims about every individual member of ARBCOM that some sub-section of people find funny, I'm like not going to get immediately blocked? Hey Kingsindian, why don't you try that and see how it goes... You've clearly never read https://en.wik...