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by HRIP7
Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:54 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: Persistent bias on Wikipedia - Brian Martin
Replies: 73
Views: 6711

Re: Persistent bias on Wikipedia - Brian Martin

Arguably, attempts to censor vaccine critics in Australia are counterproductive, generating more attention to critical views than would have happened otherwise. [...] By opposing censorship of vaccine critics, I may be serving the agenda of vaccination proponents who favour respectful conversations...
by HRIP7
Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:29 pm
Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
Topic: WP: Fact or Fiction? - by Loudwire
Replies: 85
Views: 2225

Re: Jason Newsted Plays 'Wikipedia: Fact or Fiction?'

I think the Bob Rock error is gone; at least I can't find it today. Nah, still there. Rock altered Metallica's working schedule and routine so much that the members swore never to work with him again.[15] The cited source says, Producer Bob Rock says Metallica’s 1991 “Black Album” “wasn't a fun, ea...
by HRIP7
Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:36 pm
Forum: Governance
Topic: Persistent bias on Wikipedia - Brian Martin
Replies: 73
Views: 6711

Re: Persistent bias on Wikipedia - Brian Martin

I'm sure Jimmy's being thoughtful about it. The most thoughtful comment came from Bilby : I don't believe that the main concerns that Martin has with the article are based on the current version. He has concerns - some justified, some not - but the real issue he had was with the earlier state and t...
by HRIP7
Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:28 pm
Forum: Governance
Topic: Persistent bias on Wikipedia - Brian Martin
Replies: 73
Views: 6711

Re: Persistent bias on Wikipedia - Brian Martin

First of all, :welcome: Whatever differences of opinion we may have (and I think they may ultimately be quite serious) and regardless of how snide and invective-full my commentary may be leveled against you or your public figure, it is always good when dialog opens up and I commend you for dipping ...
by HRIP7
Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:37 am
Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
Topic: WP: Fact or Fiction? - by Loudwire
Replies: 85
Views: 2225

Re: Jason Newsted Plays 'Wikipedia: Fact or Fiction?'

http://loudwire.com/jason-newsted-wikipedia-fact-or-fiction/,Newsted corrected some fiction when we brought up a Wikipedia entry about Black Album producer Bob Rock. Wikipedia states Rock altered Metallica’s working schedule and routine so much that the band swore never to record with him again, bu...
by HRIP7
Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:11 pm
Forum: Governance
Topic: Persistent bias on Wikipedia - Brian Martin
Replies: 73
Views: 6711

Re: Persistent bias on Wikipedia - Brian Martin

Welcome to WPO, Brian. I did put a link to your piece on Jimbotalk ([link]https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AJimbo_Wales&type=revision&diff=797679299&oldid=797674411[/link]), so rest assured that your words have probably made it to the individuals at Wikipedia needing to hear th...
by HRIP7
Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:55 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Cost of participation (paywalls, conference costs etc.)
Replies: 31
Views: 1245

Re: Cost of participation (paywalls, conference costs etc.)

The scholarship criteria for Wikimania are interesting.

I was surprised by the extent to which content creation seems to be de-emphasised in favour of various forms of social interaction (incl. tool building).
by HRIP7
Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:28 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Cost of participation (paywalls, conference costs etc.)
Replies: 31
Views: 1245

Re: Cost of participation (paywalls, conference costs etc.)

Two Jimmy Wales quotes from that page: First, I think it's a really interesting idea to think about how the WMF might negotiate for bulk discounts for access for individual Wikipedians to the archives of newspapers (to be paid for by the WMF). I totally disagree with Carrite's cynicism and negativis...
by HRIP7
Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:48 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Cost of participation (paywalls, conference costs etc.)
Replies: 31
Views: 1245

Cost of participation (paywalls, conference costs etc.)

Increasing numbers of news outlets (including the Washington Post and the New York Times) are restricting free access to their online publications. There is now a discussion about the costs volunteers incur to access paywalled sources, and the lack of help provided by WMF to date. Plus a mention of ...
by HRIP7
Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:00 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Whataboutism
Replies: 6
Views: 533

Re: Whataboutism

Re-tweeted by Sue Gardner:
From over here, the US seems a little nuts these days. (While that certainly includes the president, it also, surprisingly, includes a lot of those opposing him.)
by HRIP7
Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:01 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: More than we thought
Replies: 6
Views: 279

Re: More than we thought

Well it now says, This goal turned out to be attainable within two years of hard work, and has grown to nearly 5.5 million , by the time of writing this. Of course it's still not quite right, as the goal is clearly more than 5.5 million, but with a small improvement every day, it'll one day be perfe...
by HRIP7
Mon Aug 07, 2017 5:57 pm
Forum: Jimboland
Topic: The People's Smooth Operator
Replies: 1130
Views: 257812

Re: The People's Smooth Operator

I'm not sure what the current situation is now – is Wales still involved in TPO and drawing a salary from them at this time?
by HRIP7
Mon Aug 07, 2017 9:10 am
Forum: News and Media
Topic: Wikitribune - the next great Wales failure
Replies: 747
Views: 127940

Re: Wikitribune - the next great Wales failure

Kingsindian wrote:I am not sure where I read it: it's just a vague memory. I might just be mistaken.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk ... .Wikipedia
by HRIP7
Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:13 pm
Forum: News and Media
Topic: Keywords to Grow Your Organic Visibility
Replies: 2
Views: 198

Keywords to Grow Your Organic Visibility

https://www.searchenginejournal.com/fin ... ]Wikipedia is such an important source of semantic data that Google’s Knowledge Graph behaves as if it is built in large part on top of it as a platform.[/quote]
by HRIP7
Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:28 pm
Forum: News and Media
Topic: All BLPs should be locked down. Period.
Replies: 42
Views: 1192

Re: All BLPs should be locked down. Period.

1. Can someone (as in some contributor, not the WMF) be sued for their contributions to a Wikipedia BLP? 2. Has anyone been sued (or threatened with a suit)? It may be worth reiterating that, as most regulars here are aware, from a legal standpoint the WMF is neither responsible nor liable for anyt...
by HRIP7
Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:18 am
Forum: News and Media
Topic: All BLPs should be locked down. Period.
Replies: 42
Views: 1192

Re: All BLPs should be locked down. Period.

So you're saying the German Wikipedia hasn't grown at all in a couple of years? It is not as healthy as En-WP in terms of Very Active (100+/mo.) Editors. But let's see... Pulling up the stats... [link]https://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediansEditsGt100.htm[/link] German WP for May, last 5 ye...
by HRIP7
Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:03 pm
Forum: Blog Posts
Topic: Weasel Words Worry Wales - new blog post
Replies: 16
Views: 2781

Re: Weasel Words Worry Wales - new blog post

Never forget the classic "Wikipedia said..." and "According to Wikipedia..." Many journalists often forget that Wikipedia says nothing; it's the Wikipedians who add stuff in. A key point. Wikipedia contains vandalism, hoaxes and other unsourced rubbish added by anonymous drive-by editors that no on...
by HRIP7
Tue Aug 01, 2017 7:58 am
Forum: News and Media
Topic: All BLPs should be locked down. Period.
Replies: 42
Views: 1192

Re: All BLPs should be locked down. Period.

This has been going on for a long time. The solutions are well known. Jimmy had it within his power to fix. He still hasn't. Wales actually wanted pending changes; the community didn't. His power to decree such things by fiat vanished long ago. That's an interesting position. My recollections are d...
by HRIP7
Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:40 pm
Forum: News and Media
Topic: All BLPs should be locked down. Period.
Replies: 42
Views: 1192

Re: All BLPs should be locked down. Period.

Vigilant wrote:This has been going on for a long time.
The solutions are well known.
Jimmy had it within his power to fix.
He still hasn't.
Wales actually wanted pending changes; the community didn't. His power to decree such things by fiat vanished long ago.
by HRIP7
Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:21 pm
Forum: Sexism
Topic: The gender gap gap
Replies: 300
Views: 86604

Re: The gender gap gap

They say that their findings are "broadly consistent" with related work, which used stuff like TIME articles and Encyclopedia Britannica articles. http://ijoc.org/index.php/ijoc/article/viewFile/777/631,Reagle and Rhue (2011) , whose paper is mentioned, found that "Wikipedia articles on women are m...
by HRIP7
Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:18 pm
Forum: News and Media
Topic: Wikipedia bans Daily Mail as 'unreliable' source for website
Replies: 56
Views: 2348

Re: Wikipedia bans Daily Mail as 'unreliable' source for web

Wikipedia bans Daily Mail as 'unreliable' source for website Online encyclopaedia editors rule out publisher as a reference citing ‘reputation for poor fact checking and sensationalism’ Wikipedia editors have voted to ban the Daily Mail as a source for the website in all but exceptional circumstanc...
by HRIP7
Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:49 am
Forum: News and Media
Topic: Wikipedia's impact on tourism
Replies: 1
Views: 192

Wikipedia's impact on tourism

https://qz.com/1021932/it-pays-to-keep- ... p-to-date/
by HRIP7
Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:24 pm
Forum: Blog Posts
Topic: Alexa - By Barbara Page
Replies: 47
Views: 26752

Re: Alexa - By Barbara Page

Of course, the relief one might obtain by taking action for infringement of one's moral rights in any Wikipedia article is hardly likely to be worth the expense. Doesn't this demonstrate once more how advantageous it is to the big players (including the WMF itself, arguably) that volunteers are not...
by HRIP7
Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:57 pm
Forum: Blog Posts
Topic: Alexa - By Barbara Page
Replies: 47
Views: 26752

Re: Alexa - By Barbara Page

by HRIP7
Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:36 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Whataboutism
Replies: 6
Views: 533

Re: Whataboutism

What's completely missing in the article's lead is that "whataboutery" or "whataboutism" was widely used in reference to the Troubles in Northern Ireland. A quote that pops up every few years in retrospectives is this: Cardinal Cahal Daly once said: "Whataboutery is the commonest form of moral evasi...
by HRIP7
Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:53 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: Litigation
Replies: 8
Views: 618

Re: Litigation

I'd hazard a guess that the WMF's divorce from Lila involved quite a bit of expensive legal consultation.
by HRIP7
Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:56 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Medical articles on Wikipedia
Replies: 6
Views: 656

Re: Medical articles on Wikipedia

This is a thread to look at the state of Wikipedia's medical articles their use by medical students, professionals etc. I have been casually searching the academic literature about the medical information on Wikipedia. Here is one, which looks at medical students' use of Wikipedia: Interesting. Reg...
by HRIP7
Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:24 pm
Forum: Jimboland
Topic: The People's Smooth Operator
Replies: 1130
Views: 257812

Re: The People's Smooth Operator

The shares un-zipped later in the afternoon and un-popped back to where they started the day. So much for the reliability of "fake news". Seriously, what news outlet could be said to be doing a good job reporting on this company without mentioning that the IPO was at 130 pence, and now it's at 3 pe...
by HRIP7
Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:26 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Monkey selfie & Commons
Replies: 207
Views: 20187

Re: Monkey selfie & Commons

I find it frustrating how eager some editors are to delete content based on purely theoretical or notional copyright issues, while fighting fiercely to keep and propagate content where the interested party actually wants it deleted and offers compelling grounds to do so. There is of course a common...
by HRIP7
Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:21 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Monkey selfie & Commons
Replies: 207
Views: 20187

Re: Monkey selfie & Commons

For what it's worth, I consider Wikipedia/Wikimedia's handling of the "monkey selfies" dispute to be appalling -- if not on a purely legal level, then certainly as a matter of fairness and decency. I've written about this on my wikiblog and in a Signpost article. (In preview, I see that someone jus...
by HRIP7
Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:22 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Monkey selfie & Commons
Replies: 207
Views: 20187

Re: Monkey selfie & Commons

The other day I posted a link to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2016-01-20/Op-ed,Newyorkbrad's Signpost op-ed on the monkey selfie on Wikipedia Weekly. I'm sure it must have been discussed here on WO at the time, but given that it's been a while, and there are some new pe...
by HRIP7
Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:08 pm
Forum: Governance
Topic: Trustee-to-be asks for money
Replies: 39
Views: 1217

Re: Trustee-to-be asks for money

It's certainly not unknown for Wikipedians with access to stuff behind paywalls to use it in their articles. They would no doubt say that they are making information free and benefiting the legendary little girl in Africa and so on. They rarely consider or care about the effect on the authors and p...
by HRIP7
Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:44 pm
Forum: Governance
Topic: Trustee-to-be asks for money
Replies: 39
Views: 1217

Re: Trustee-to-be asks for money

I guess it's useful that for once, WMF people are seeing the open access equation from the side of content creators – a perspective most otherwise seem deaf and blind to (cf. David Slater). It's a lot easier to demand that everyone else should publish open access papers than it is to cough up a few ...
by HRIP7
Sat Jul 08, 2017 8:34 am
Forum: News and Media
Topic: What can fact-checkers learn from Wikipedia?
Replies: 27
Views: 2487

Re: What can fact-checkers learn from Wikipedia?

I actually liked that interview. It mentioned twice that people should check citations, and acknowledged Wikipedia's limitations, including problems with bias and representation. What they strive for instead is an approximation of the truth — what humanity knows at any given time. Trust in this cont...
by HRIP7
Wed Jul 05, 2017 2:08 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: SignPost is on Life Support
Replies: 70
Views: 7844

Re: SignPost is on Life Support

Afterwards, the WMF said they couldn't release the grant documentation because of "donor privacy". This seems to have been a flat-out lie, made with the connivance of the WMF board, because the Knight Foundation, when contacted about this, said they had no problem at all with the grant documentatio...
by HRIP7
Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:17 pm
Forum: The Money Trail
Topic: Contracting expanding
Replies: 47
Views: 13299

Re: Contracting expanding

Hmm... the fact that this WMF trustee's project is "for profit" was not mentioned in the French, German and Spanish Wikipedia articles on it, until very recently. The Spanish one went so far as to describe it as "non-profit".

Ah, Wikipedia. Ever reliable.
by HRIP7
Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:02 pm
Forum: The Money Trail
Topic: Contracting expanding
Replies: 47
Views: 13299

Re: Contracting expanding

As I just said on Wikipedia Weekly, there is an inescapable irony in the fact that the WMF employs a political spinmeister (who's worked on two presidential election campaigns, among other things) to help it come up with the following strategy (page 35): Given today’s record levels of partisanship a...
by HRIP7
Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:27 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: SignPost is on Life Support
Replies: 70
Views: 7844

Re: SignPost is on Life Support

Good find, Tippi. :) Bluerasberry says, USD 5000 is requested. The publisher would be paid USD 100/week for publishing The Signpost. Weekly duties would be as follows: 1. Wrangle contributors to be timely with submitting content 2. Collect all content from contributors 3. Deliver submitted content t...
by HRIP7
Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:23 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: SignPost is on Life Support
Replies: 70
Views: 7844

Re: SignPost is on Life Support

:)
tarantino wrote:

Caw!

:bow:
by HRIP7
Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:20 pm
Forum: The Money Trail
Topic: Fundraising for this year
Replies: 31
Views: 7284

Re: Fundraising for this year

Orlowski's follow-up in The Register: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/12/19/jimmy_wales_breaks_promise_more_chugging?utm_content=buffer22079&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer,Jimbo Welshes on pledge to stop fundraising (Dec. 19) The Wikimedia Foundation won’t honour a pr...
by HRIP7
Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:16 pm
Forum: Governance
Topic: Article in Signpost about Wikipedia workshop in Namibia
Replies: 11
Views: 936

Re: Article in Signpost about Wikipedia workshop in Namibia

I have little knowledge of the whole business of workshops, but it's almost as if publicity is a goal in itself for the WMF, and the volunteer base isn't even an afterthought? Perhaps that's too cynical, I don't know. This Signpost op-ed is useful, especially in combination with the argument made b...
by HRIP7
Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:48 pm
Forum: Jimboland
Topic: The People's Smooth Operator
Replies: 1130
Views: 257812

Re: The People's Smooth Operator

The Times reports that " http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/investors-hang-up-on-wikipedia-founder-rz9w2xdc9,Investors hang up on Wikipedia founder ". The ethical telecoms company run by Jimmy Wales, the Wikipedia founder, is in danger of joining the infamous 90 per cent club after a trading statemen...
by HRIP7
Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:24 pm
Forum: News and Media
Topic: Reclaim the Internet
Replies: 31
Views: 5759

Re: Reclaim the Internet

For an AfD on Wikipedia, it's remarkably witty so far. Can that possibly last? It's furthermore remarkable for being https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&search=%22hungry+vagina%22&fulltext=Search&profile=all&searchToken=9a1j3jv2f8itm6pnfoww67hrk,the only Wikipedia page to date...
by HRIP7
Mon May 16, 2016 6:24 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Wikimedia Foundation Staff Turnover
Replies: 52
Views: 3914

Re: Community Engagement, 3 resignations in 4 days

I'm going to split the more recent staff turnover into its own topic. An article with a timeline of hires and fires would be sweet. As far as I can seen, the https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AStaff_and_contractors&action=history&year=2016&month=5&tagfilter=,last 50 edits ...
by HRIP7
Mon May 09, 2016 2:46 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: James Heilman removed from WMF board
Replies: 438
Views: 62582

Re: James Heilman removed from WMF board

https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-May/084078.html,Uh oh! Someone with balls on wikimedia-l :popcorn: Another interesting tidbit from Wikimedia-l, https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-May/084103.html,courtesy of Pete Forsyth : By the way, I think the WMF board ...
by HRIP7
Tue May 03, 2016 9:25 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: James Heilman removed from WMF board
Replies: 438
Views: 62582

Re: James Heilman removed from WMF board

I'm not seeing a swelling tide of outrage. I said some pretty incendiary things about his uselessness in some very public forums recently (quoted above) including suggesting he pack up and leave, and no one chimed in with support for my position. On the other hand, no one objected to my commentary,...
by HRIP7
Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:17 pm
Forum: Jimboland
Topic: Wikipedia boss to lobby China to unblock
Replies: 42
Views: 2604

Re: Wikipedia boss to lobby China to unblock

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=716032148&oldid=716018207,How quaint : I did misspeak once - I met with someone from the [Kazakh] Prime Minister's office (to lobby them for change), but did not meet the Prime Minister himself. (I would do so, by the way, if the...
by HRIP7
Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:06 pm
Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
Topic: Arbitrator mocks Trump in April 1st Signpost: BLP issue?
Replies: 1085
Views: 58928

Re: It was just a prank bro!!

So if I make a false page that denigrates and makes false claims about every individual member of ARBCOM that some sub-section of people find funny, I'm like not going to get immediately blocked? Hey Kingsindian, why don't you try that and see how it goes... You've clearly never read https://en.wik...