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by Neotarf
Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:27 pm
Forum: Web 2.0: The Emperor's New Clothes
Topic: Reddit slimes its own CEO
Replies: 65
Views: 3098

Re: Reddit slimes its own CEO

Is anyone seeing this as a referendum on female executives in the tech industry, or a "win" for the Gamergate/PUA bloc?
by Neotarf
Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:54 pm
Forum: Governance
Topic: New head of WMUK
Replies: 18
Views: 1297

Re: New head of WMUK

Is there a salary? I seem to recall that in Europe these are not volunteer positions, as they would be in the U.S.
by Neotarf
Sat Jul 11, 2015 1:02 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: Amnesty Ruling: Arbcom Violates Policy, Grabs Jimbo's Power
Replies: 79
Views: 3549

Re: Amnesty Ruling: Arbcom Violates Policy, Grabs Jimbo's P

"Should a fifth block (three months) prove necessary, the blocking administrator must notify the Arbitration Committee of the block via a Request for Clarification and Amendment so that the remedy may be reviewed." Looks like that was the fifth block, even if the block lengths haven't been followed.
by Neotarf
Sat Jul 11, 2015 12:24 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: Amnesty Ruling: Arbcom Violates Policy, Grabs Jimbo's Power
Replies: 79
Views: 3549

Re: Amnesty Ruling: Arbcom Violates Policy, Grabs Jimbo's P

...........it is about the withdrawal of Arbcom's support from the incorruptible Sandstein....... Yeah, Incorruptible just like Robespierre. Excellent choice of words there, thanks for the chuckle. RfB According to teh wiki, no one has ever been able to pin the blame for the reign of terror on Robe...
by Neotarf
Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:31 pm
Forum: Sexism
Topic: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015
Replies: 182
Views: 23460

Re: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015

Oh great, this again. Would some mod mind splitting this off into the Corbett-Sitush Icky Ladyparts Thread #256, or where ever it goes. After purging my WP watchlist so I don't have to see this word over and over and over, and in public, and with random people looking over my shoulder, it's a bit of...
by Neotarf
Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:21 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: Amnesty Ruling: Arbcom Violates Policy, Grabs Jimbo's Power
Replies: 79
Views: 3549

Re: Amnesty Ruling: Arbcom Violates Policy, Grabs Jimbo's P

Which is why it's so odd for it to issue this amnesty in this case. Quite clearly there were very basic violations a Disciplinary Committee would normally deal with - Eric's deliberate violation of a topic ban, something he apparently has a long history of doing, Black Kite's abuse of their positio...
by Neotarf
Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:51 am
Forum: Sexism
Topic: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015
Replies: 182
Views: 23460

Re: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015

Right now it should be required reading for all the arbs before they even touch another gender-related case and create even more bad publicity. You can see on this workshop page how the women's comments have been handled . The latest case too. I understand the need for controlling the chaos on thes...
by Neotarf
Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:24 am
Forum: Sexism
Topic: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015
Replies: 182
Views: 23460

Re: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015

Good to see that the workshop coordinator who will be paid for the talk (right?) is spamming Wikipedians to boost attendance. I saw in the Ally Skills presentation that one thing conference coordinators should do to make women feel safe is not to schedule conferences in neighborhoods known to be un...
by Neotarf
Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:12 pm
Forum: Sexism
Topic: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015
Replies: 182
Views: 23460

Re: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015

Okay, a pilot for admin training then. Lots of endorsements, people must think the admins need improved. I envision this will one day be required coursework for admins, with a yearly online refresher. That's quite a vision. If you haven't noticed, the count of active administrators is crashing. I r...
by Neotarf
Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:32 pm
Forum: Sexism
Topic: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015
Replies: 182
Views: 23460

Re: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015

The talk page is worth reading. The first post to that talk page: This may well shape up to be an interesting talk, but it seems pretty tone deaf to write this in a way that starts out deliberately offensive. This is almost Exhibit A about how not to do outreach... Calliopejen1 (talk) 21:09, 18 Feb...
by Neotarf
Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:24 pm
Forum: Sexism
Topic: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015
Replies: 182
Views: 23460

Re: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015

Also, this is similarly off-putting: I am honored that my speech from Wiki Conference USA helped you develop this idea, SlimVirgin! -- Sumana FriendlySpace Pity I was blocked from that conference only 17 hours before traveling to it. I've never been all that convinced the conference would have been...
by Neotarf
Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:48 pm
Forum: Sexism
Topic: Gender Gap: The IdeaLab Inspire Campaign
Replies: 61
Views: 11528

Re: Gender Gap: The IdeaLab Inspire Campaign

Poetlister wrote:
thekohser wrote:(Don't bother deleting it, Ollie -- it's been saved.)
Ah, but if they abolish freedom of panorama, you might be in breach of copyright. :irony:
Perhaps you could interest him in some pink userboxes from the Hex Collection:
Hex wrote:A friend writes:
by Neotarf
Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:12 pm
Forum: Sexism
Topic: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015
Replies: 182
Views: 23460

Re: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015

I'm upset that $9,000 of tax-exempt money went toward this "laser-focused" workshop, while the content on Wikipedia festers in error and revenge. Where is the $9,000? Did I miss something really obvious? Looks like Bamkin and Stephenson-Goodknight's proposal has been approved , but I don't see a do...
by Neotarf
Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:44 pm
Forum: Sexism
Topic: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015
Replies: 182
Views: 23460

Re: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015

I wonder about the "How to pick up women" proposal, by I believe someone at WMUK, if it ever got funded, if so, what was the budget. If it was, I wonder what the participant overlap would be. There were actually quite a few people who signed up for it. I believe the proposal was by Roger Bamkin, wh...
by Neotarf
Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:49 pm
Forum: Sexism
Topic: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015
Replies: 182
Views: 23460

Re: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015

I wonder about the "How to pick up women" proposal, by I believe someone at WMUK, if it ever got funded, if so, what was the budget.
by Neotarf
Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:35 pm
Forum: Governance
Topic: Amnesty Ruling: Arbcom Violates Policy, Grabs Jimbo's Power
Replies: 79
Views: 3549

Re: Amnesty Ruling: Arbcom Violates Policy, Grabs Jimbo's P

Amnesty : noun, plural amnesties. 1. a general pardon for offenses, especially political offenses, against a government, often granted before any trial or conviction. 2. Law. an act of forgiveness for past offenses, especially to a class of persons as a whole. 3. a forgetting or overlooking of any ...
by Neotarf
Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:13 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: On-going debate on WP - a poster example of Wikipediocracy?
Replies: 27
Views: 1414

Re: On-going debate on WP - a poster example of Wikipediocra

Neotarf, There are a couple of threads on this subject. ... All these 'objections' have already been thoroughly 'debunked' in the RfD page, I believe. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArticles_for_deletion%2FPrimo-vascular_system Thanks, !Idiot! I believe not. You might as wel...
by Neotarf
Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:23 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: On-going debate on WP - a poster example of Wikipediocracy?
Replies: 27
Views: 1414

Re: On-going debate on WP - a poster example of Wikipediocra

There are a couple of threads on this subject. One here opines that "The PubMed abstract linked to makes unsubstantiated proposals about electromagnetic waves and DNA that smell of pseudoscience. Elsewhere, claims of PVS in lymphatic ducts seem far-fetched, given that extensive studies of the lympha...
by Neotarf
Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:33 am
Forum: Technology
Topic: The Visual Editor is a huge failure
Replies: 1609
Views: 268666

Re: The Visual Editor is a huge failure

How many bugs are there in the web browser you just used to compose that post? I mean ones you notice, that actually affect you in some way. ... I think you need to read my question again. You need to read my answer again. Only about ten percent of the stuff works. But it doesn't matter because you...
by Neotarf
Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:36 pm
Forum: Technology
Topic: The Visual Editor is a huge failure
Replies: 1609
Views: 268666

Re: The Visual Editor is a huge failure

How many bugs are there in the web browser you just used to compose that post? I mean ones you notice, that actually affect you in some way. Well, for one thing, it doesn't show the last sign-in time for users any more. And I've only been able to figure out how to use a handful of the 39 function b...
by Neotarf
Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:22 pm
Forum: Technology
Topic: The Visual Editor is a huge failure
Replies: 1609
Views: 268666

Re: The Visual Editor is a huge failure

Vigilant wrote: Do you do software for your day job? Cause I do ...
Ha, so it's not fixed yet, is it, if someone's paying you to fix it.
by Neotarf
Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:14 pm
Forum: Technology
Topic: The Visual Editor is a huge failure
Replies: 1609
Views: 268666

Re: The Visual Editor is a huge failure

...That's a LOT of manual cleanup for real people to undertake just to allow a group of engineers not to fix the problems in their code base. There isn't a piece of software anywhere that doesn't have problems. If you wait to release software until all the bugs are out, it will *never* be released....
by Neotarf
Wed Jul 01, 2015 1:48 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Freedom of panorama in the EU
Replies: 34
Views: 953

Re: Freedom of panorama in the EU

Partly discussed here: http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=6549 My understanding of what happened is that some 'Pirate Party' MEP (no, seriously, there really is such a thing, an MEP got elected on the basis of 'pirate' copyright issues) called Julia Reda has been driving much of th...
by Neotarf
Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:03 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Freedom of panorama in the EU
Replies: 34
Views: 953

Re: Fae worries about freedom of panorama

Yes, I wish someone would write something about it. I remember it came up in connection with the image for the French military installation. http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/04/wikipedia-editor-allegedly-forced-by-french-intelligence-to-delete-classified-entry/ There is a Signpost article, an...
by Neotarf
Tue Jun 30, 2015 2:47 am
Forum: News and Media
Topic: 'Free' Wikipedia photos worth at least $246 million a year
Replies: 7
Views: 504

Re: 'Free' Wikipedia photos worth at least $246 million a ye

To conduct the study, the researchers compared Wikipedia pages of authors who had at least one New York Times bestseller between 1895 to 1969. They found that, despite the relative scarcity of images for authors born between 1850 and 1890, those authors had a picture beside their entry 90 percent o...
by Neotarf
Sat Jun 27, 2015 3:50 am
Forum: News and Media
Topic: NYT: Can Wikipedia Survive?
Replies: 56
Views: 5616

Re: NYT: Can Wikipedia Survive?

Hex wrote:I understand your point, but would you please mind not using the word "faggotry" again? That's speaking both as myself and as Wikipediocracy's newest forum mod.
+1
by Neotarf
Thu Jun 25, 2015 3:17 am
Forum: Technology
Topic: The Visual Editor is a huge failure
Replies: 1609
Views: 268666

Re: The Visual Editor is a huge failure

Gradually enabling VisualEditor for new accounts TL;DR: The recent test results show that there's no negative impact from offering VisualEditor to newly registered accounts. Here's a plan for how we might offer it more widely in a gradual manner. Isn't that a clear statement that VE is rubbish? It'...
by Neotarf
Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:44 am
Forum: News and Media
Topic: NYT: Can Wikipedia Survive?
Replies: 56
Views: 5616

Re: NYT: Can Wikipedia Survive?

There are some fun people in the SCA, but these are not the SCA guys who go to conventions. They are assholes to a man. I didn't go to conventions back then. I went to court or to war. Once I went as a sailor from Phoenicia. Conventions? No, you want tournaments followed by banquets. Bring a sword.
by Neotarf
Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:29 am
Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
Topic: Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner
Replies: 118
Views: 6882

Re: Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner

https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/0/00/OFFENSIVE.jpg So confused... <snip> For those following along at home, we're up to "Explain in very general terms why this makes them a terrible person." Not so much a terrible person as looking for their lost manhood. No, no Vig. Don't you understand? P...
by Neotarf
Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:48 am
Forum: News and Media
Topic: NYT: Can Wikipedia Survive?
Replies: 56
Views: 5616

Re: NYT: Can Wikipedia Survive?

If there's a Reward Board in the monkey lab, I'd like to hire an orangutan to work on an article about the Jimmy Wales Foundation. I believe Mike Orange is otherwise occupied. Ugh, that lame attempt at a joke missed the mark by 2.5 barnsides... RfB No making fun of the comrades, huh? Comrade Lowry ...
by Neotarf
Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:28 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Timotheus Canens' Arbcom Powerpoint: Editors are Sausages
Replies: 42
Views: 2182

Re: Timotheus Canens' Arbcom Powerpoint: Editors are Sausage

I enjoy your posts. In that case, here they all are in one place, for everyone's enjoyment and intellectual stimulation. Why I stopped posting here, in a nutshell. This place tolerates that. I can't. Sorry. :B' I just saw this. I kinda wish I hadn't. But then I'm glad I did. You don't find anything...
by Neotarf
Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:04 am
Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
Topic: Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner
Replies: 118
Views: 6882

Re: Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner

Has anyone else noticed lately that you sometimes hear people use the expression "politically correct" in a completely unironic manner? Is there any other way? You don't have to like someone to collaborate with them. Our cities prove that. There is public speech and private speech. In public, you c...
by Neotarf
Mon Jun 22, 2015 5:47 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Timotheus Canens' Arbcom Powerpoint: Editors are Sausages
Replies: 42
Views: 2182

Re: Timotheus Canens' Arbcom Powerpoint: Editors are Sausage

I enjoy your posts. In that case, here they all are in one place, for everyone's enjoyment and intellectual stimulation. Why I stopped posting here, in a nutshell. This place tolerates that. I can't. Sorry. :B' I just saw this. I kinda wish I hadn't. But then I'm glad I did. You don't find anything...
by Neotarf
Mon Jun 22, 2015 5:30 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Timotheus Canens' Arbcom Powerpoint: Editors are Sausages
Replies: 42
Views: 2182

Re: Timotheus Canens' Arbcom Powerpoint: Editors are Sausage

First, I want to thank Triptypch for starting the thread about my arbcom case. It confirms what I think I already knew, there is no way to explain the arbcom's actions without using conspiracy theories. I am deeply grateful to everyone who read through the diffs, whether they commented or not. So, h...
by Neotarf
Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:20 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Is WikiWand on thin ice?
Replies: 3
Views: 413

Re: Is WikiWand on thin ice?

If this was a company or agency that paid actual wages, there is no way they would be able to advertise that they had fired someone--and that's basically what they have done here, fired someone from a volunteer position. Even if a potential employer contacted them privately, a company can not give o...
by Neotarf
Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:57 am
Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
Topic: Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner
Replies: 118
Views: 6882

Re: Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner

Does that mean I can call Jeb! a social justice warrior if I don't AGF that he is sincere about his climate change views? I haven't particularly followed the thing, but it seems rather obscure, since "justice" is usually considered to be a Good Thing, and the term seems to be mocking justice. The p...
by Neotarf
Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:01 am
Forum: News and Media
Topic: Wikipedia Starts A Shooter's Journey to White Supremacy
Replies: 41
Views: 1987

Re: Wikipedia Starts A Shooter's Journey to White Supremacy

Ant to top it all, photos have emerged of him burning an American flag. That should damn him in the minds of all decent people. http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/D03A/production/_83760335_burningflag.jpg So he's killed multiple people, espoused white supremacy and trusted Wikipedia, but th...
by Neotarf
Mon Jun 22, 2015 2:41 am
Forum: Technology
Topic: Filesystem that supports tools lab dies
Replies: 13
Views: 2252

Re: Filesystem that supports tools lab dies

I once said on another thread that the WMF can easily afford to upgrade its Tool Lab server and hire competent technicians for them, but no, the WMF chose to splurge on personal stuff instead. I understand the toolserver stuff is not WMF but is all maintained by volunteers. It was migrated to the G...
by Neotarf
Mon Jun 22, 2015 2:09 am
Forum: News and Media
Topic: Armenian Wikipedia
Replies: 20
Views: 1351

Re: Armenian Wikipedia

http://hagopsphotography.com/tyalt/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/poster-600.jpg,Here's a beginner's guide to the Armenian alphabet. There are two sorts of Armenian Christians: Armenian Catholics, who are broadly the same as Roman Catholics, and Armenian Apostolic Christians, who seem to be a curious b...
by Neotarf
Thu Jun 18, 2015 1:00 am
Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
Topic: Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner
Replies: 118
Views: 6882

Re: Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner

Why is this apple red but this orange....orange!? Is this some social justice warrior shit?? I'm not a Social Justice Warrior and I'd bet you a house payment my politics are to the left of yours. What is this "social justice warrior" thing? A reference to Marxism? What would be the opposite of a so...
by Neotarf
Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:38 am
Forum: News and Media
Topic: How Hosting an Edit-A-Thon Made Me Trust Wikipedia
Replies: 18
Views: 662

Re: How Hosting an Edit-A-Thon Made Me Trust Wikipedia

Ayanaeliza has, of date, made the whole of 21 edits, including creating Ocean zoning . Draw your own conclusions. Wait until her first forced appearance in front of ANI. Then ask her to do a follow up. Or until she receives her first Two Kinds of Pork/When Pigs Fly type of email. Or until she--or a...
by Neotarf
Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:21 am
Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
Topic: Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner
Replies: 118
Views: 6882

Re: Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner

Why is this apple red but this orange....orange!? Is this some social justice warrior shit?? I'm not a Social Justice Warrior and I'd bet you a house payment my politics are to the left of yours. What is this "social justice warrior" thing? A reference to Marxism? What would be the opposite of a so...
by Neotarf
Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:35 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Is WikiWand on thin ice?
Replies: 3
Views: 413

Is WikiWand on thin ice?

WikiWand is a company that reuses Wikipedia's material by putting it in a format that some think makes it more attractive to view. Some say it was the impetus behind the introduction of Wikipedia's controversial Media Viewer. The other day I was playing with Google and noticed that although the Eng...
by Neotarf
Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:02 pm
Forum: News and Media
Topic: How Hosting an Edit-A-Thon Made Me Trust Wikipedia
Replies: 18
Views: 662

Re: How Hosting an Edit-A-Thon Made Me Trust Wikipedia

Ayanaeliza has, of date, made the whole of 21 edits, including creating Ocean zoning . Draw your own conclusions. Wait until her first forced appearance in front of ANI. Then ask her to do a follow up. Or until she receives her first Two Kinds of Pork/When Pigs Fly type of email. Or until she--or a...
by Neotarf
Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:35 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Another public lynching
Replies: 30
Views: 2997

Re: Another public lynching

That explains why Sitush is the one rallying the lynch mob. Another drive-by courtesy of the Manchester gangbangers and their cronies . The Manchester machine seems to have taken Hell in a Bucket under their wing. The thing was over and done in six hours. No one even questioned why Mr. Hell has som...
by Neotarf
Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:01 pm
Forum: Governance
Topic: Redesigning the WMF from scratch
Replies: 19
Views: 1479

Re: Redesigning the WMF from scratch

The drawback of this kind of editing is of course that everyone goes home and never edits again. So you are not building a work group that can build and polish whole articles as a team. But ArbCom tends to destroy those groups when it finds them anyhow. "... FWIW, an oft-used phrase in the UK volun...
by Neotarf
Sat Jun 06, 2015 4:29 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Another public lynching
Replies: 30
Views: 2997

Re: Another public lynching

Vigilant wrote:
by Neotarf
Sat Jun 06, 2015 3:56 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Timotheus Canens' Arbcom Powerpoint: Editors are Sausages
Replies: 42
Views: 2182

Re: Timotheus Canens' Arbcom Powerpoint: Editors are Sausage

I don't find every thread here interesting; if there is one I don't care for, I just skip over it. If no one else is interested, it will fall of the board soon enough. Triptych's posts sometimes miss the mark--for instance, this is probably not the best venue for a hagiography of The Purple One--non...
by Neotarf
Sat Jun 06, 2015 3:31 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Compromised admin account?
Replies: 31
Views: 2009

Re: Compromised admin account?

The White House computer has also been compromised, the hacking linked to China. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/05/us/br ... 39727&_r=1 Just sayin'. Probably a coincidence.