Wikipediocracy

drg55

Of course, Scientology has for a number of years now been http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/2945246/Scientology-tax-victory-could-cost-Revenue-millions.html,classified as a VAT-exempt non-profit in the UK , a piece of information you will also look for in vain in the Wikipedia article. As for "mos...

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There is nothing like intellectual integrity. The politicians in the UK seem to lack intellectual integrity wearing their prejudices on their sleeves. This is a major win for Scientology and marks a movement from a theistic definition pretty much based of Christianity and of course the Church of En...

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You may not be right on this occasion but it raises an interesting question, how old are the Arb Com candidates? Piotrus asked all the candidates how old they were, and some of them answered. The final question from Piotrus was I respect editors privacy with regards to their name. I however think t...

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Here's something you didn't know about mr clown/kid lokshin: http://xenomorphsoftworks.deviantart.com/art/Back-to-our-Roots-by-Kirill-Lokshin-403628257 He was just 7 years old in 1993. This means he was about only 15 when he rigged his way to arbcom. I knew about administrators being rebellious tee...

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Here's classic Orwellian https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:COI#Avoid_outing,thought : Wikipedia places importance on the ability of editors to edit pseudonymously. When investigating COI editing, the policy against harassment takes precedence and requires that Wikipedians must take care not to...

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You'll have to navigate the details of your own situation Drg55, but I think your "I just won't participate in it" may have the same result as my "well, I can try to patch it." The moral of the story, my story at least, is that sometimes you just got to blow the whole rotten activity to kingdom com...

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Recently in my private life I have been involved in a situation where things haven't been exactly as they should and I have announced that I would no longer be participating in that activity, which today led to a situation of one of my bosses threatening to fire me. Classic Whistleblower experience....

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Twelve Tips for PR in Wikipedia 1. Neutral point of view 2. Ensure transparency (blah blah blah) As a trained Public Relations Officer, "neutral point of view"? Your job is to put the best factual representation you can. One approach is to let the references do your talking. You can quote good docu...

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Well that was an amusing little misunderstanding. OK Wikipedians who aspire to Arb Com, how about you all coming out and giving your real names and interests. My name is David Griffiths, which has previously been mentioned here, and my id is from my initials. I was 23 years ago in charge of legal an...

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Mason wrote:
Triptych wrote:Are there any other female candidates?
Isarra is female.

I came to the conclusion that TDA is female based upon this discussion viewtopic.php?p=67830#p67830 and the icon, she is wearing a dress.

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Should I have tempered my criticism of Kissinger by saying he should try to achieve his goals without illegally killing quite so many Cambodians? Very funny. A nice piece of writing. Ironically Gerard bases his prejudice (on a subject I won't mention having mentioned it enough for the moment), beli...

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The question must surely be, does the Wikipedia democratic process cause the cream to rise to the top, or does it lead to those who most encapsulate its abuses winning office? Sadly most of the responses view "outing" as the most severe crime. Amazingly enough a severe conflict of interest such as s...

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https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2013/Candidates/David_Gerard/Questions&diff=583146889&oldid=583144927 : Do you consider it appropriate to have overtly promoted your candidacy in this election today on your Twitter feed? https://twitter.c...

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How many times does David Gerard get to call wikipedia editors in good standing "vicious nutters" and "trolls" in his ARBCOM questions before he's desysoped and banned? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2013/Candidates/David_Gerard/Questions Come on, w...

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... Wikipedia editors: Arbitration Committee elections open tomorrow. My answers to questions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2013/Candidates/David_Gerard/Questions … How-to-vote coming . Well here's an omission: Please disclose any conflicting inte...

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... Wikipedia editors: Arbitration Committee elections open tomorrow. My answers to questions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2013/Candidates/David_Gerard/Questions … How-to-vote coming . Well here's an omission: Please disclose any conflicting inte...

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Captain Occam wrote:
Zoloft wrote:Right next to the 'PM' button is an 'EMAIL' button. It's magic.
Huh, I wasn't aware anyone ever used that feature. But if they do, I suppose it's worth trying, so thanks for the idea.

If you email you will be giving your email address.

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When I clicked on the link to the article Wikipedia asked me to donate money.

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There is no democracy in science, ideas are true because of their inherent value. People's opinions are largely irrelevant. That's more or less true in science. But you can't extrapolate from there to other spheres of life. Well, that's true, the difference between science and humanities is that in...

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Well I did qualify that it is outcomes that matter. A lot of people go into politics for their own ego or other reasons such as personal gain or vested interests. None of these are good reasons. What motivates the rabble that play politics in Wikipedia? I've already indicated that they are thoroughl...

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When I was being blocked on Wikipedia and as matters progressed, I thought that this was a good thing as I would be connected with someone intelligent. I went up the line from a topic ban and an appeal to a block, where I was advised not to have placed my appeal in the lower level of incidents and i...

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Huffington Post was sold to AOL for $315 million, seems a bit much http://allthingsd.com/20110206/youve-got-arianna-aol-buys-huffington-post-for-315-million-in-cash/ Which then led to a dispute from the unpaid contributors to Huff for a piece of the sale price http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technol...

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the important lesson here is that Wikimedia is threatened from all sides by virtue of its size and reach. It's too big to be run out of Jimmy's back pocket any more. It needs to become a real institution, one with the knowledge and heft to pick its battles carefully, knowing when to hold them and w...

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Actually I believe the majority of the value lies in the content, only a small percentage is the software and servers. Therefore Jimbo could take a small cut that would set him up for life and the rest could go to buying copyrights to put information on line or some such parallel purpose. Google mig...

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We should post an ad on Craigslist San Francisco. "For sale: World-class defamation, revenge, and business promotion website, styled as mediocre online encyclopedia. Some wear and tear. May have to be fumigated. As is. Asking price $50 million, or will trade for yacht." $50 mil? How about 1 billion...

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Its a fact that many child abusers were abused themselves as children. But I wouldn't let that confuse matters, its still a crime. And many victims are likely to have or have had years and years of psychiatric treatment which suggests no result or it made them worse. That's their choice if adults, b...

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OK Jimbo, times up. Just cash in Facebook style and <redacted> off. You can claim credit for Wikipedia, the bits you did and in the best traditions of science, the bits others did, because you are better than them. A privatised Wikipedia would have to make a very rapid upgrade to the rules of normal...

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We are currently having a Royal Commission (broad Government appointed investigation) into child abuse and its much wider than just the Catholic Church "We also think people will be shocked to learn the broad range of institutions where child sexual abuse has occurred in the past, and I think the ot...

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I noticed this in another thread, wherein Jimbo did the thing I got topic banned for, reinserting a deleted edit. I am going to remove your addition to Talk:Asaram Bapu again (you actually double-added it, but I assume that was inadvertent).... .--Bbb23 (talk) 23:34, 31 August 2013 (UTC) ....but wha...

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Mathsci is a good example of why full names should be used in Wikipedia. He allegedly has academic qualifications, I would have thought that we need to know who he is so that he can't push his own wheelbarrow. Being a mathematical genius doesn't make you smart. I used to have a neighbour who was a s...

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There is the issue that the Internet is international and jurisdiction is elusive. A famous example (which is controversial here, of course) is the ripping off of images posted by the National Portrait Gallery in a way that violated English but not Florida copyright law. I have myself on more than ...

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The second major oddity in Wikipedia, besides anonymous authors, is its abhorrence of the law. However Wikipedia is not alone in this. The founders of the internet culture seem imbued with anarchism: There are also other forms of anarchy that attempt to avoid the use of coercion, violence, force and...

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In the past I've written that Wikipedia is, collectively, "the biggest troll on the internet," and I still believe that. Most actual content-providers probably don't really want it around, but they're divided over whether or not Wikipedians should have the right to do what they do, given the delete...

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But there are many oddities in other religions. The main thing at any level of Scientology is the release of spiritual freedom and essence, and ones ability thereby to live a better and more rewarding life. See, this is where I wonder if the head Scientology honchos really believe the bullshit that...

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Which nicely demonstrates what your average believer thinks about such niceties as "ecumenism" and "interfaith dialog": My religion is right, all the other religions are wrong, so what's there to talk about? Our church must be chock full of non-average believers, because we earnestly dig learning a...

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Hello, I would like to propose that Wikipedia has a new standard on cultural sensitivity. In the past cultural knowledge has been treated as a trophy to be returned to the empire and paraded before the public, much like exotic animals in small cages. Many social problems, ill feelings, misunderstand...

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While still no statement of conflict of interest, I found this on Prioryman's talk page, only ten days old and already archived. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Prioryman&diff=564745546&oldid=564744975 I'm giving you a chance to explain yourself here before I raise your conduct a...

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Here's an interesting link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bare-faced_Messiah#Permission_of_author_to_reproduce_book_on_the_Internet and here's another http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/Contributors.php?wikilang=en&wikifam=.wikipedia.org&grouped=on&page=Bare-faced_Messiah Now someone talks a...

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If you didn't see it, there has been a discussion now closed at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Wikipediocracy_and_outing involving Prioryman and Sandstein saying that off wiki outing is harassment and grounds for blocking I think it's very sensible to redact the links, and I would appeal to o...

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http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification_and_Amendment&oldid=495386263#Amendment:_Scientology_.28Prioryman.29 "Statement by Prioryman I'm not involved in any off-wiki activism related to the topic area, nor have I been for a very long time (in fact since...

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I have been a Scientologist for nearly 4 decades. I'm not interested in having a discussion about Scientology with anyone. But I will say that it takes some guts to straight-up say that in a forum like this, knowing the response that it might provoke. So, kudos to you. This is very nice of you to s...

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An email sent to Prioryman: Hi Chris, There has been a bit of discussion in Wikipediocracy (out of control Prioryman) whether Chris is your real name, and that there are quite a few people with that name, and if any of them are you. Lets assume it is. I have emailed the Arbitration Committee: 'I hav...

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.... I would imagine that the anti-CoS community, whether internet-based or not, is fairly close-knit by necessity. The degree of cooperation among them is sure to be at least as high as what we have here on Wikipediocracy, and (IMO) probably waaaaay higher. It wouldn't surprise me at all to learn ...

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As I can't edit Wikipedia I have sent this to info-en (at) wikimedia.org as it may or may not get through I'm putting it here also. -drg55 Hello could you please forward this email to the Arbitration Committee, there is a clarification request in progress and I am an interested party but am blocked ...

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I'm trying to find out what Sandstein thinks about this information that has sat in public view for four years, but Future Perfect at Sunrise has intervened with clairvoyant powers to try and nip it in the bud. Sorry, but I don't believe in the sixth sense. Every time I made an edit, page view stat...

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Drg, was Prioryman's real name the only personal information you disclosed? This is an important point as revealing his real name has already been found to not be outing and an editor who had been blocked for disclosing his name was unblocked as a result of that finding. Unfortunately I didn't keep...

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I've just been blocked for "outing" Prioryman. I did it because Chris Owen released the internet version of Bare-Faced Messiah and has a long history in alt.religion.scientology making him unsuitable to edit it let alone create the page. Or at least he should have identified his interest. I asked hi...

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