Wikipediocracy

Lukeno94

Well, well, well. Why am I lacking any feeling of surprise?

Lukeno94

I suppose PHP is rather like Java and Flash in that regard. Everyone likes to heap scorn upon them, and yet people still keep using them.

Lukeno94

He had the right to forget about it. </s>

Lukeno94

Well, it's a lazy and easy way of silencing your critics... which is probably why Jimbo used it. It's also an asshole's move, which again appears to fit.

Lukeno94

I think Dreadstar deliberately executed a(nother) Diva Quit (tm) here. Demands that MarkBernstein be unblocked by HJ Mitchell at midnight UTC, 16 hours later whines about it not happening, unblocks MarkBernstein, bitches at HJ Mitchell and everyone else, and blocks themselves. In the meantime, Mitch...

Lukeno94

Dreadstar (T-C-L) has blocked themselves indefinitely, 15 minutes after unblocking everybody's favourite editor, MarkBernstein.

Lukeno94

And... it's gone! For once, Commons was less dysfunctional than enwp - it had to happen eventually.

Lukeno94

I'd trust a blog more than I'd trust the Daily Mail.

Lukeno94

If RT is the only source citing Putin's opinions on a subject.... ...maybe Putin's opinion on a subject doesn't need to be inserted into Wikipedia? Just a thought. Depends on the exact issue in question. Not so sure about that. The word "only" is pretty telling. If he's done an exclusive interview ...

Lukeno94

iii wrote:
collect wrote:If RT is the only source citing Putin's opinions on a subject....
...maybe Putin's opinion on a subject doesn't need to be inserted into Wikipedia? Just a thought.

Depends on the exact issue in question.

Lukeno94

Well, he's not swept it under the rug (yet), for a change.

Lukeno94

Long-term disruption and ownership across multiple projects, including various counts of harassment - why shouldn't they? If Commons is to have any hope of being useful, the WMF have to get rid of the crap merchants, because they sure as fuck won't get rid of themselves...

Lukeno94

All I can say is; I'm glad my account was young enough and unhindered enough to not suffer these issues.

Lukeno94

Vigilant wrote:Ashley van Haeften aka Fae is the next target for a SanFranBan.

And that day can't come soon enough. It'd be nice if they took out some of the enablers on Commons as well.

Lukeno94

In fairness, any list containing hoaxes that were less than one month old at their discovery point would be boring, and very long indeed.

Lukeno94

Office PC? Mac Pros probably.

Lukeno94

Cloaking IPs would be absolutely stupid. That's what having an account is for anyway.

Lukeno94

And not only that, there are the unencyclopedic messes of content just dumped into articles - often copyvios/completely unsourced - where lazy editors "tag" it for cleanup, rather than actually do anything themselves. Just went through and cleaned out the mess one particular editor left two years ag...

Lukeno94

I can see how a person could change formal processes in a large $50 million/year organization. Given the nature of this well-established product, the "corporate culture" of this staff, its Board of Directors, and of the community that funds and elects the Board, I don't see much prospect for real c...

Lukeno94

I wonder if anyone on Wikipedia has ever used the Diva Quit to throw suspicion off their sockpuppets. Let's say User A has a sock, User B, and an actual flesh and blood ally, User C. But User B all of a sudden starts being mean to User A for no good reason, prompting User A to do a Diva Quit and ve...

Lukeno94

1925 is also a plausible typo for a 1915 entry.

Lukeno94

James470 is almost certainly neither the first nor the last to do this kind of "subtle vandalism." All of Wikipedia is infected with varying degrees of bad information. You speak volumes. We don't even have a way to estimate how much subtle vandalism there is. Probably tens of thousands of incorrec...

Lukeno94

Ah, in that case, I do apologize. The reason I use "Lukeno52" rather than "Lukeno94-public" or something similar is quite simple; I use the Lukeno52 user elsewhere, such as on YouTube. So that covers the public account and the impersonation potential in one fell swoop.

Lukeno94

I don't think restricting everyone to just one account is a good idea, Tim. It makes sense for people with more than the most basic of user rights to have an extra disclosed account, for when they're editing in a public place or on a system that isn't theirs. That's why I have two accounts, even tho...

Lukeno94

You can't. And, unless you put them under 24/7 surveillance in their homes and places of work, there's no way of knowing if they are emailing each other or not. I'm not certain that the discussions themselves need to be public, but the decisions/conclusions themselves need to have clear, solid reaso...

Lukeno94

Anyone claiming Kumioko didn't troll is deluding themselves. His content creation is generally good, but his interactions with other editors went dramatically downhill when people weren't taking his side - as happened here. Also, Triptych, your stream of insults only damage your case - you think I, ...

Lukeno94

Why are you paying attention to the Daily Fail?

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The last significant change to Wikipedia was WP:BLP. That correction was a long time coming and a long time ago - and imposed from without. Wikipedia is incapable of meaningful self -correction, because too many of the time-rich that dominate the site don't believe there is anything seriously wrong...

Lukeno94

JCM, could you please put some more commas in that comment? Not meaning to belittle you, but it does make it a tad hard to read.

Lukeno94

Is it time to adopt an insta-ban policy for IAC trolls here?

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Addenda: That's really weird, I went looking for Coffee's RFA to see if I did vote for him and I can't find it where it might be expected... [link]https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Successful_requests_for_adminship&from=C[/link] An unpublicized name change? An omission from the li...

Lukeno94

Those IPs are yours, zimm2, and the edit warring was several days ago. Admins, please remove this troll.

Lukeno94

Yeah; it's often hard enough to get a group of total idiots to decide between two things, without muddying the waters further. This, of course, applies to both certain sects of Wikipedia, and politicians, in equal amounts.

Lukeno94

Protonk defended MarkBernstein to a ridiculous degree. No great loss there, let's be honest.

Lukeno94

It's simpler because it means that the WMF don't have to take their precious money and spend it on actually helping the encyclopedia, rather than ruining it further. Is it better? No, not really.

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Kiefer's claims should've been taken seriously, and with 20/20 hindsight, that's obvious. However, Kiefer's approach to things didn't help... but then, that approach was probably due to any of his more sensible attempts getting nowhere. A vicious circle.

Lukeno94

Why do I get the feeling they only keep her employed to meet an "equal opportunity employer" quota?

Lukeno94

Well, it's a serious accusation - but that doesn't mean that it isn't a common one. Add me to the list of people who wants more details.

Lukeno94

"For example, re: Demiurge1000. I made the mistake of ignoring the information because I didn't trust the source. I screwed up properly there" WTT already commented on that. His comment barely scratches the surface. What "source"? What "information" did he not trust? What was his reasoning/justific...

Lukeno94

"For example, re: Demiurge1000. I made the mistake of ignoring the information because I didn't trust the source. I screwed up properly there"

WTT already commented on that.

Lukeno94

I believe eppur si muove was referring to three active WO members there (namely Carrite, Anthony and Jayen466), rather than those particular three musketeers.

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One of the few things Wikipedia is useful for is timelines (not "knowledge") about football players... Except for when data about them has been creatively vandalized. More on this soon. As someone with a large degree of experience in this area, I have to agree with Greg - apart from the fact that a...

Lukeno94

The Zoophilia/bestiality talk page was on archive 15 by 2005? What the fuck?

Lukeno94

Run away, or been run away? It doesn't help when people here have demanded that they bend to their will. Neither side has been particularly successful at discussing here.

Lukeno94

Hi Mark. As we discussed by email, I've unblocked you with the sole condition that you avoid personally directed comments; this isn't a sanction but more of a gentlemen's agreement. There should be no need to comment on anybody's person anyway—it's perfectly possible, as I'm sure you know, to criti...

Lukeno94

Gentlemen, this argument is not productive, and if you want this thread to actually generate some discussion, I recommend you both back off each other, before this thread completely descends into chaos. As for ArbCom cases where the "right" decision was reached, well, look at the Wifione case and th...

Lukeno94

Yeah, that 99.9% figure is just fucking stupid. I'm pretty sure more than 0.1% of the world is homeless, just as a starter...

Lukeno94

Seriously concerning/impressive that Wnt has managed to make more edits than the auto-signing bot on that page...

Lukeno94

Problem is, a lot of the "Wikipedia-grade reliable sources" are offline, due to the age of the engine; most of the online hits are for enthusiast forums, parts sites, and tuning guides. At least add a few offline souces, then. It would be far better than nothing. I would, if I had those kind of boo...

Lukeno94

Guilty as charged on that count, although not very often any more.

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