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I remember a few years ago there was a discussion about Anti-Semitism on Jimbo's usertalk page. Jimbo refered to a certain blog as "Reliable" due to its frequency of usage as a WP source. Then he pointed out that said blog identifies him as a Jew (which he isn't). I don't think he gets the fact that...

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Stumbled upon another fantastic way to malign people on Wikipedia: Template:Infobox criminal . What a great little template that is! Particularly for political or religious dissidents in states that criminalise some political or religious opinions (a policy making gains in the UK and US and Europe ...

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I would strongly doubt whether pre-86 yearbooks would be considered "Published" in the copyright sense, prior to the internet age they were a limited distribution to pupils, parents, alumni, staff and archive with no expectation of further copying or distribution. Today both old and new do get publi...

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Sorry somehow misread NHL as NFL - apologies to any Hockey/Blackhawk fans I've offended. If I actually was interested in reading about their use of the song I might have seen the Stanley Cup reference. #Notasportsfan The Britney Spears claim is pure speculation on the part of last.fm users and appea...

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Chelsea Dagger Wow, just wow. Original Research, but Jon's wife Heather's stage name is "Chelsea Dagger" not "Chelsea" so the song is solely named after her and the song relates to how they met. The section on the history of the term ignores the fact its describing Heather's character and leads to ...

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I agree that you should report it to the artist's management and/or the promoter. They will probably want you to tell them the real name of the photographer and uploader. I'm really worried about the devastating psychological effects of this on Katy Perry, when she finds out that such a supremely c...

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I can almost certainly say they were taken without permission, I've worked as a music promoter and for other music promoters for a decade now. If permission is granted the recipient (even private individuals) are given access to the photographers pit and given controled permission to photograph. Wit...

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I recently came across Category:Katy Perry concert, Nottingham Arena, 2011 uploaded by Mattbuck. Unless I'm mistaken these photographs are from the general seating at a venue whose Terms & Conditions disallow photography. Breaching these terms would mean that Matt became a trespasser in the arena wh...

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efore FT2 (yet still tagged as an advert) Karrimor is a brand of outdoor and sports equipment and clothing. It was founded in 1946 by Charles and Mary Parsons with Grace Davies who hand-sewed cotton-duck cycle pannier bags from the upstairs of their Lancashire cycle shop. Karrimor went on to build ...

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Jimbo, for all his flaws, serves as the figurehead for Wikipedia evangelists.charismatic hook they hang its credibility on. He's managed to achieve teflon status, accusations of misbehavior just slide off him. He won't move on to another project as the Sue Gardners of the world will; he's permanent...

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Outsider wrote:For better or worse, Jimbo's role is unique and nobody else would be able to do it.

What about Larry Sanger?

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Adobe Systems is pretty much a tirade about their Creative Cloud subscription service. That is one disgusting pile of shit. The "Creative Cloud" ranting was the work of three blatant SPAs, in May thru early July. Lewis Louveteau Truewhispers Stuckgreenpixel Is Adobe unable to afford paid editors to...

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Fences in Saint Petersburg people has nothing better to do with their lives. The title needs disambiguation, otherwise people might expect it to be about St. Petersburg, Florida, St. Petersburg, Pennsylvania or even the scene of that famous fence painting incident, St. Petersburg, Missouri, home of...

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Find out the identity of "Loudclaw"'s parents. Good Luck with that, LoudClaw appears to come from the Warriors (novel series) fans seem to create their own Warrior name from their initials I="Loud" the table I found showed B as "Claw" which would fit with a Ian.bjorn as he originally used on en-wik...

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I don't really care which one I use but it would be really nice if universal login worked between both. It used to be fine as I never used the secure one, but for a while Google hits always led to secure so I switched - now Google hits are leading to unsecured and I can't be bothered changing again...

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As I read it, Demiurge offered to mentor AK during this incident. AK had already been mentored by one of Demiurge's existing minors - not sure if it was RCSprinter or another minor previously mentored by RCSsprinter but the fact I can't tell shows the problem. Minors mentoring Minors who are mentor...

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As I read it, Demiurge offered to mentor AK during this incident. AK had already been mentored by one of Demiurge's existing minors - not sure if it was RCSprinter or another minor previously mentored by RCSsprinter but the fact I can't tell shows the problem. Minors mentoring Minors who are mentor...

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So, Demiurge was "mentoring" this kid? As I read it, Demiurge offered to mentor AK during this incident. AK had already been mentored by one of Demiurge's existing minors - not sure if it was RCSprinter or another minor previously mentored by RCSsprinter but the fact I can't tell shows the problem....

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TungstenCarbide wrote:Heh, that's really something, getting blocked from Wikipedia for incompetence.

And yet competence isn't a valid blocking reason - it's an essay not a guideline let alone a policy....

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Its always funny when freetards think that everyone is as gasping as themselves. I'm afraid I don't understand "gasping" in this context could be a lost in translation thing or some poor taste asthma joke you need to explain. On the other point I need to take the instagram point back. I went throug...

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This great message from Lilburne is sponsored by Yahoo! To whom you grant a royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive and fully sub-licensable right and licence to use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute, perform and display such Content ...

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Fair point, Eric. I wonder how this would be resolved. You are correct that sending a DMCA notification will get the works taken down. It will also probably get AK banned from the site for life. --Carnildo (talk) 00:03, 2 August 2013 (UTC) AK has 21K edits on en.wp. I watched with great amusement a...

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AK has been on the periphery of my Radar since he arrived. I caught and reverted a few bad edits by him and then watched as he began to circulate in amongst the editors previously groomed by Demiurge (the likes of Rcsprinter) It is a good thing that this is recieving so much attention but I suspect ...

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Outsider wrote:
Woden.Ragnarok wrote:Just out of interest did he also edit the page on Pluto?
Which one?

Pluto (disambiguation) (T-H-L)

Clearly the Dwarf Planet, given Tyson was one of the scientists whose work brought about it's redesignation From planet to dwarf planet.

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Just out of interest did he also edit the page on Pluto?

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As for World Governments, some look to Gene Roddenberry rather than Gerry Anderson.

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Dogbiscuit, in one of your earlier points you say that tuition fees are free at the expense of the health budget. I googled it and found that Scotland's per capita spending on health is 10% higher than England, Scots have more local doctors and Scottish hospitals employ more doctors and nurses. Scot...

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@Wer900 perhaps that's partly the point -I think both US and German style federalism removes too much liberty from individual states to manage their own affairs and that's why I want to break free of it. Joining a World Federation doesn't phase me but it should be something closer to the EU with fre...

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I support Californian Independence - what's idiotic is thinking that California wouldn't want to retain the Dollar, wouldn't want to retain the federal bank of San Fran as it's central bank and wouldn't want to retain that institution's seat on the federal reserve board to maintain a say in what hap...

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But you keep avoiding the more germane things; the fact that digital files of art derive their value from the original art and are otherwise worthless. That's nonsense. Something is worth what people are prepared to pay for it. If I am willing to pay for a high-quality reproduction of a picture, ra...

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For example this image here on WP: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/Comic_History_of_Rome_Table_10_Cicero_denouncing_Cataline.jpg/800px-Comic_History_of_Rome_Table_10_Cicero_denouncing_Cataline.jpg is a poor representation of the actual image. This is closer to the 1852 orig...

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That wasn't my experience of the valley, there was a posted camera ban but guards weren't interested in enforcing it at the gate. Guards on tombs within the valley did take baksheesh and did not report. The only place I've ever seen the camera ban actually enforced was at the Cairo museum. The class...

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There was more chance of being detected and prosecuted for forcing an entry than there is of prosecuting some foreign computer hacker for liberating data files (see Gary McKinnon). In both cases the effect is the same 1) The squatters cannot be removed, 2) The data (King Tut's tomb, some sculpture,...

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I'm sorry, I hadn't realized that a printed out copy replaced the original hanging in the gallery while the hi res ones were downloaded because that's the only reason I can think for you making a comparison involving replacement of the originals with copies. As for squatting, its hardly the same if ...

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Lilburne, You seem to like confusing different issues with your talk of "liberating" data then giving examples of situations where the data isn't publicly accessible but things created using the data are. If I have something unique (The hand ilustrated, mid 19th century, Italian copy of Dante's Infe...

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Lilburne, Your point appears mixed and self deprecating. You claim earlier that the work Corel put in Scanning and grading Bridgeman's films granted them some moral superiority to redistribute the images. Yet you do not see the work put in by DCotzee locating fragments of the images, downloading tho...

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Hex, thanks for that reading through the cases the Lego one considers production of an accurate reproduction as in this case. The Hyperion case presents an interpretive reproduction - Sawkins appears to have written a viola part that didn't exist in the previous arrangement -it may be similar to Dog...

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Dogbiscuit, a couple of times there you state that UK law protects reproductions. As I understand of UK law there is no specific statement to that effect in UK law and I can't find any UK case law that shows a different opinion from Bridgeman v Corel. Do you have any UK legal reference that supports...

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Yes stolen as in taking without the owners consent. In this case, no. The painting has long been in the public domain. The museum prohibits people from photographing it (I'll bet) so they can sell photographs, thereby engineering a new copyright for themselves, cutting out the artist's heirs in the...

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lilburne wrote:That will be one of the images that they stole from the National Portrait Gallery. Wonderful to see that they put them to good use.

Stolen? really? Is the one in the gallery a good forgery now? Where's the original? I bet it's at Jimbo's house.

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I figure is Russavia thinks it's important to keep as a free example of a meh-notable artist and a video showing said artist at work then we should commission one of Scott Bibby and replace the Jimbo ones. Unfortunately I haven't found a photo of Scott yet but it seems his father has a facebook acco...

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That's why there should be content review boards of esteemed, anonymous, agenda-driven, personal-grudge-bearing, sexist/racist/nationalist/religionist, and potentially sociopathic Wikipedian editors to deal with such problems. We cannot let BLPs be left to chance... FTFY. About 70% of editors have ...

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HRIP7 wrote:Mod. note: some unduly personal and extraneous comments and replies thereto sent to our capacious bin.

You might want to move my last comment as well as it was a riposte to the removed ones

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Douglas Adams wrote:Many respectable Wikipedians said that they weren't going to stand for this, partly because it was a debasement of the encyclopedia, but mostly because they didn't get invited to those sorts of parties.

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EricBarbour wrote:Is it too late to point out that Ms. Lima is quite ?

I notice her user page is festooned with images of Russavia's racist Polandballs. That's a nice way to demonstrate your neutrality.

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The WMF and Wikipedia are awash with insiders who play power and use mailing-list/IRC intrigue in order to maintain their positions and sometimes, as with Bamkin and WMUK, earn small fortunes. Why shouldn't Wikipedia be treated that way? Why don't we just pay editors one cent for each byte of reada...

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Ming wrote:Ming feels that the one real advantage to such a project would be that all the travel info in the train/subway station and road articles could be foisted on them.

I agree but the few attempts made so far have failed with WV deleting after transwiki.

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And there is a concerted effort to weaken creator rights over their creations. What? Exsqueeze me? With Berne, the URAA, the Sony Bono copyright extension act, etc creators have more rights to their creations than at any point in prior history. Add to that the internet which allows creators to mone...

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As said before you have a perverted sense of private property. Other than the Crown no individual was the complete owner of land, and there never was any legal protection given to an owner which allowed for unchecked property usage without state intrusion. The Myth of Property: Toward an Egalitaria...

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