Wikipediocracy

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I and a few others have discussed it and closely related issues a lot in recent and semi-recent discussions that I think I mostly initiated. Link, please. You too Jim, like Carcharoth, may try a forum search, and if you're unable to locate anything, report back including what your search terms were...

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Moderators, administrators, trustees, don't just delete the exchange without a sound or private message, leave it. This person has no interest in the thread subject, just shows up to irritate those members that are his or her enemies, or he or she hates, or dislikes, or whatever. There are others li...

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without websearching, do you know the difference between a catfish and a lawyer? One's a slimy scum-sucking bottom-dwelling scavenger; the other is a fish. What was the point of the "without websearching" thing? Your search came before ours? Nice to see you back, though, Trip. I missed you. When di...

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Has there been any discussion here of this WMF policy that seems fairly new? "Access to nonpublic information policy" I and a few others have discussed it and closely related issues a lot in recent and semi-recent discussions that I think I mostly initiated. Try a forum search. The part that I see ...

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Nice stunt. I wonder if the court will wait for the 12(b)(6) motion to be filed, or will dismiss the case sua sponte for lack of jurisdiction (which it does not have, since the photograph is not a US work). The lawyer filing the case should be sanctioned. I'm pretty sure there is more to the questi...

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Are we to understand, as it surely looks, that another arbitrator sent Roger Davies this "Fuck off, you cunts. Decline." text? I'd be interested to know which one, and how often similarly toned communications are exchanged by the arbs, behind the facade. No, it wasn't an arbitrator. It was from som...

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Ah yes, Bauder's Law. Tsunami Butler was properly blocked as a sockpuppet. Such determinations are not based on checkuser but on aggressive editing which fits the same pattern as a banned user. Obviously a different person may be involved; the violation is mirroring the behavior of the banned edito...

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As I mentioned at the time, this was a direct quote from an ping I'd received a short while earlier commenting on my decline comment. The actual words the OP suggested were "Fuck off, you cunts. Decline." It never occurred to me that anyone would take it literally. No suggestion is made that this w...

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The administrators' noticeboard discussion as it stands https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&oldid=680841099#Telstra.2C_Australia_IP_vandalism,at 14:30, 13 September 2015 (UTC) and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_notice...

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Can any admin easily block all Telstra IPs if they so wished? Yes if they want to. Its a really stupid idea. There have been blocks of entire countries before. Another aspect of anonymously crowd-sourcing Wikipedia's administration, which is the WMF model, is that it also lowest-common-denominators...

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ruski22 Risker: "On careful re-examination of the technical data and editing pattern, the checkuser team, including checkusers who did not participate in the original Orangemoody case, have decided that there is sufficient variation in the data that we will l...

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...there are no less than five online news sources linked at the bottom of the article, and not a one of them is to a press release or product website... Actually, if you open them and look at them, 40% are a copy of a press release.. A couple or three points: You say 40% of the article's sources s...

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...there are no less than five online news sources linked at the bottom of the article, and not a one of them is to a press release or product website... Actually, if you open them and look at them, 40% are a copy of a press release.. A couple or three points: You say 40% of the article's sources s...

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It [Wikipedia] is reliably unreliable, and reliably biased. That's nonsense. If it was reliably biased then it would be reliably biased in one direction or another. Just like The Daily Mail for instance. How do you mean The Mail is biased? It seems neither left nor right to me. It's sensationalized...

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As I mentioned at the time, this was a direct quote from an ping I'd received a short while earlier commenting on my decline comment. The actual words the OP suggested were "Fuck off, you cunts. Decline." It never occurred to me that anyone would take it literally. No suggestion is made that this w...

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Just a warning to the moderators -- Trip seems to be coming off the rails a bit again. I'd only quibble with "coming" off, and "again". You need to be "on" to come "off". :B' One of these days you might contribute some Wikipedia criticism to this Wikipedia criticism forum. On second thought, no, th...

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http://wikipediocracy.com/2015/08/30/roger-davies-wikipedias-imperial-arbitrator,Roger Davies: Wikipedia’s Imperial Arbitrator New blog post up: So, who is the longest-serving Arbitrator? Who runs the mailing list? Who is the Coordinating Arbitrator? All three positions are currently held by the sa...

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Just a warning to the moderators -- Trip seems to be coming off the rails a bit again. When was the first time? When I committed the unpardonable sin of titling a favorable post about Lila Tretikov with "Lovable Lila" in there? Worm, who knows nothing about sourcing and whose content creation achie...

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... it's not really a Wikipedia editor's function to fault a source, unless on the failure to comply with WP:RS (reliable sources)... I'd disagree with that. Perhaps when the encyclopedia was just finishing it's initial boom and we were in the [citation needed] phase, where any source would do - th...

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...there are no less than five online news sources linked at the bottom of the article, and not a one of them is to a press release or product website... Actually, if you open them and look at them, 40% are a copy of a press release.. A couple or three points: You say 40% of the article's sources s...

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It used to be mind-boggling to me, but now it's common and unremarkable to see patroller and other administrative types making completely baseless allegations against articles and article writers. Here's a case in point: Bosch-Sensortec (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosch_Sensortec). This person "S...

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Trying a new thing.

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The red hide tags I put in - poor mobile users! Keep on topic, please. Less walls of text, too, folks. Why does the site value the sneer-at-your-earnest-neighbor-never-post-anything-substantial-but-yes-to-some-cool-videos crowd over the researched-this-Wikipedia-matter-can't-explain-it-in-three-sen...

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You can switch IPs easily and you can https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/user-agent-switcher/lkmofgnohbedopheiphabfhfjgkhfcgf,fake user agents (one of several utilities to take care of that). So I really can't see CU evidence can have any merit except in the case of the most unsophisticated ...

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I'll bet a $10 donation to the Wikimedia Foundation that most of the editors resided in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, or the Philippines, where a $30-a-month "article monitoring fee" will go quite a long way. (In Bangladesh, $30 will buy you 200 pounds of potatoes.) I'd like to know this too. Was th...

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For instance, Porta Kleen has been around forever. Sorry to burst your bubble, but why then are there only 7 stories ever mentioning it, on news.bing.com? Because porta-potties don't make the news very often? Really this reliance on the number of websearch results as a validation that a Wikipedia a...

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This is getting plenty of press. There's an interesting article in The Independent, I'll quote in part: Another small business targeted was the Little Citizens Boutique, an online toy shop based in Holywood, Northern Ireland. Alicia Peyrano, the website’s founder, said: “My background is in journali...

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I tried finding Eddie Gear, Porta Kleen, and Nikki Gregoroff and each was apparently deleted. Were all the Orangemoody-associated article deleted merely for the association with Orangemoody. The administrators' back-slapping discussion says that the supposed racketeers would *improve* these article...

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At the London conference, Steven Walling, assisted by Mariana Pinchuk, gave a talk to a packed audience on how to make Wikipedia more attractive to women. After the talk, a group of Wikipediocrats met Davies in the corridor and mentioned the talk. Davies hadn’t even heard of Walling. It was explain...

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Cla68 wisely asks in the discussion, basically, "how is this extortion? Orangemoody and co. offered the service of monitoring the articles to keep them from being deleted." To which someone tells him that "oh no, Orangemoody and co. would go and request deletion of the very articles they had improve...

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It's amusing to me that the Wikimedia Foundation thinks this was a "big score". Just look at a sample of the so-called extorted articles: Dayramir Gonzalez Eddie Gear Exhibía Fracttal Giftxoxo GrellFAB Homebrew Hatena servers Little Citizens Boutique MTrading Nikki Gregoroff Porta Kleen Quality vil...

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Going with BT (British Telecommunications) you get a different IP (and generally a different location, say Liverpool rather than Manchester sort thing) each time you power off and then re-power your hub. You share any given IP with a number of other users. I've seen Wikipedia IP contribution pages ...

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Silktork Steve Pereira of Rochester Kent UK is a true twit behaving pathetically to shore up the entire pathetic administrative culture he represents. Now he does spam. I recall his incredibly inept handling of the Tea Party arbitration which concluded with him throwing up his hands and saying "topi...

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You can switch IPs easily and you can https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/user-agent-switcher/lkmofgnohbedopheiphabfhfjgkhfcgf,fake user agents (one of several utilities to take care of that). So I really can't see CU evidence can have any merit except in the case of the most unsophisticated ...

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I hope his health improves, but I will always resent this guy for shredding and forgetting the identifications of checkusers and oversighters and stewards and so forth, in complete defiance of WMF policy's assertion that such users must be known to it. He turned loose vicious and stalkery anonymous ...

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You can switch IPs easily and you can https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/user-agent-switcher/lkmofgnohbedopheiphabfhfjgkhfcgf,fake user agents (one of several utilities to take care of that). So I really can't see CU evidence can have any merit except in the case of the most unsophisticated ...

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Of late MMAR's posts to WPO have moved from the realm of clear trolling to verbose run-of-the-mill butthurt sniveling, so calling him "Trolly the Sock" doesn't quite capture the complete essence any longer... Oh, you called him "Trolly the Sock," huh? That's pretty mature. What are you, in the 4th ...

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Yes, two people seem to be using the phrase "linguistic analysis" in a way that links it to SV. Durova uses neither word in the quoted essay, let alone that phrase. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Durova/The_dark_side She says in there, self-congratulatorally: "Nearly everything I use to perform...

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So, is MMAR a troll? A sockpuppet of another account that set out to make a point? Or just a dick? That's it? You're only giving us three options, none of which is "he's exactly what he claims to be"? That's not very charitable, Mr. DC! I agree. Randy from Boise has also made the sock allegation bu...

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So what exactly is the deal with Mighty Morphin Army Ranger . He pops into Wikipedia in April, makes a bunch of edits to Gunther Holtorf which weren't exactly encyclopedic then decides Wikipedia isn't for him. So what he's do, spends his time trolling "content creators" here, despite never having e...

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I was thinking of this from Durova's pen: Wikisleuthing It's kind of like solving detective mysteries, the sort of volunteer work I do. I'll speak candidly about some things I've learned while I've made over 19,000 edits at this site—things I've wanted to say to a lot of the people I've wound up bl...

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I think that a checkuser can see a user's email address if he or she has entered one in Wikipedia's email function. And of course once the checkuser has the email address, it can be websearched for, which is potentially devastating to user privacy if the user entered an email address he or she has ...

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Hex wrote:
Moral Hazard wrote:
Zoloft wrote:I have trans friends in various stages of transition, and it's very real to them.
You can say the same about UFO abuctees.
This is the worst Wikipediocracy post of 2015.

I'll second that, but I think he may have been aiming for it.

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Most findings by Checkusers are not based solely on checkuser data; sometimes, they are not based on such data at all. Checkusers, like anyone else, can form their own conclusions based on publicly available information. You're saying that checkusers sometimes extend their investigations off Wikipe...

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HRIP7 wrote:
Poetlister wrote:
Zoloft wrote:Shirley you will?
Shirley Brooks (T-H-L)
Shirley Crabtree (T-H-L)

<cheesy inappropriate joke> Now, I'll readily accept Mr. Crabtree as a gender switcher. </cheesy inappropriate joke>

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Thanks. Considering that the Facebook account that was "discovered" by some poking sleuths earlier in this thread has now changed name, I'd hope this will put to rest any lingering doubt that the on-wiki signature change might be illegitimate in any way. It appears you've been doing some sleuthing ...

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Exhibit A: The IP editor 213.112.207.145 and their attempts to edit Enid Blyton today With apologies (if necessary) for the racial stereotyping: Drmies v a Swede (if iplookup be trusted; hey any sufficiently northern European in my experience. And yes, I realise there is a fair likelihood D. is SV ...

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Presumably there is some sort of checks and balances for CheckUsers, which is why the 3-month deadline can be very handy I am probably feeding the paranoia here but note the utility does not in any way enforce purging records after any specified period. A default installation of the CheckUser exten...

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Alison wrote:
Triptych wrote:I think that a checkuser can see a user's email address if he or she has entered one in Wikipedia's email function.
Nope!

I stand corrected then, and hooray for Action Alison!

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Poetlister wrote:
Triptych wrote:By saying particularly that the destination email is obscured, isn't the clear implication that the sender's is not?
No, I think that's just sloppy wording.

Perhaps a checkuser will chime in here in this thread to clear things up.

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