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- Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:55 pm
- Forum: News and Media
- Topic: Wikipedia Gets $2.5m Donation to Boost Cybersecurity
- Replies: 16
- Views: 513
Re: Wikipedia Gets $2.5m Donation to Boost Cybersecurity
I wish I had 2 million to just throw into the fire like that. With so many great charities out there doing great work to see somewhat waste this kind of money is enough to make a person cry!
- Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:55 am
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: Wikimania 2019
- Replies: 150
- Views: 4705
Re: Wikimania 2019
I can't think of an admin on US Roads who isn't worse than Fram. Aviation project ditto. Yeah that's a good example too. They drop so much extra garbage in the articles it's hard to edit them. They are full of useless invisible comments; they turn the see also sections into a sea of useless tangent...
- Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:52 am
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
- Replies: 3839
- Views: 209759
Re: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
I think part of the problem is that some of these so called unblockables are also either the ones doing the actual content improvement or the admins on the site. So in the case of the content editors if you block them, such as me and Eric or others, then you lose the people who are keeping the site ...
- Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:36 am
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: Wikimania 2019
- Replies: 150
- Views: 4705
Re: Wikimania 2019
Me either
- Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:09 am
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: Wikimania 2019
- Replies: 150
- Views: 4705
Re: Wikimania 2019
Just FYI. the Main page is a portal. We can always redefine the concept of portals to exclude the main page. :) Or we can allow just one portal. As I mentioned before I do think portals could be useful if they were used right. A good example IMO is the WikiProjects. If the related Portals were inte...
- Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:06 am
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
- Replies: 3839
- Views: 209759
Re: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
I appreciate what SilkTork is trying to do on Fram's meta page (but frankly, it should have been done during the evidence phase), but that line of questioning isn't fair. It is entirely appropriate for Fram to bring up who possibly complained about him. If it was Guido or Wikicology or LouisAlain, ...
- Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:54 am
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: Katherine Maher - is she just a smiler?
- Replies: 67
- Views: 2971
Re: katherine Maher - is she just a smiler?
She's got almost no wikipedia experience. She smiles all the time and uses hipster newspeak at every opportunity. She's starting to feel the heat with FramGate and the fallout into Maria Sefidari Huici's corruption scandal. She's worthless as a CEO and as an ED and these two examples you post are j...
- Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:23 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
- Replies: 3839
- Views: 209759
Re: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
I appreciate what SilkTork is trying to do on Fram's meta page (but frankly, it should have been done during the evidence phase), but that line of questioning isn't fair. It is entirely appropriate for Fram to bring up who possibly complained about him. If it was Guido or Wikicology or LouisAlain, ...
- Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:46 am
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement
- Replies: 15
- Views: 515
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movem
Seriously, why has the WMF been iterating failure for a decade? They've got a really awesome regression suite for failure. The bottom line here is that they aren't choosing projects that improve the site or help the community. They are picking products that look interesting, help pad their resume a...
- Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:37 am
- Forum: News and Media
- Topic: Why does everyone think that Wikipedia is unreliable?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 301
Re: Why does everyone think that Wikipedia is unreliable?
After the admin’s little outburst, we thought it would be appropriate to have a chat with him to discuss the misconceptions he feels so strongly about. 24-year-old Bonaventura Aditya Perdana, who goes by the name Bona, has been a Wikipedia administrator and contributor for years. While I expected h...
- Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:54 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
- Replies: 3839
- Views: 209759
Re: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
So how is this supposed to work? Arbcom is saying they have enough evidence to de-sysop Fram. They also can't disclose what this evidence is. Then we the community are going to be trusted to decide if he should get the bit back? Fram's RFA can't possibly be a referendum on whether we trust Fram. It...
- Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:25 pm
- Forum: Technology
- Topic: Are the checkuser tools part of the Wikipedia repository?
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1025
Re: Are the checkuser tools part of the Wikipedia repository
Years ago someone created a tool offisight that would let you run a checkuser type tool using the database download. It hasn't worked in years, but I believe it was called something like the "Poor man's checkuser tool" or something like that. I don't know if it stopped working because the WMF stoppe...
- Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:21 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
- Replies: 3839
- Views: 209759
Re: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
Worm That Turned is a fucking idiot. And corrupt. Now is it that he is corrupt, or likes, always was it corrupt! Personally I agree with the sentiment. I don't think always, but I think the corruption did happen due to the culture on Wikipedia where Admins and arbs are held to a lower standard and ...
- Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:34 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
- Replies: 3839
- Views: 209759
Re: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
He makes some good points.
- Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:25 am
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
- Replies: 3839
- Views: 209759
Re: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Noticeboard&oldid=915052551#Resignation_of_Courcelles Resignation of Courcelles Effective immediately, Courcelles (talk · contribs) has resigned from the Arbitration Committee. He has also relinquished the CheckUser and Over...
- Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:37 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
- Replies: 3839
- Views: 209759
Re: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
No but good!
His participation in the Arbcom and especially this case was a conflict of interest anyway.
His participation in the Arbcom and especially this case was a conflict of interest anyway.
- Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:08 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
- Replies: 3839
- Views: 209759
Re: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
My guess is that the 'Fram reverting BU Rob' incident made a big impression on SilkTork (and other arbs) because BU Rob kicked up a massive fuss about it on the mailing list. Quite possibly other arbs told him he was over-reacting. He really was not ready to be an arb if that shook him that much. I...
- Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:12 am
- Forum: Technology
- Topic: Possible Useful Improvements to Wikimedia Software
- Replies: 6
- Views: 984
Re: Possible Useful Improvements to Wikimedia Software
A funny example of Wikimedia software (or bolt-ons?) that wasn't maintained and now is being argued over is here . Apparently the WMF get some of the money that PediaPress make by 'printing' and selling Wikipedia articles packaged as books. Who know? :blink: (the real eye-openers are the comments m...
- Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:55 pm
- Forum: Technology
- Topic: Possible Useful Improvements to Wikimedia Software
- Replies: 6
- Views: 984
Re: Possible Useful Improvements to Wikimedia Software
- A better edit filter that didn't require every single transaction to go through it.
- Better report generation capability
- A public watchlist to go with the private one
- the ability to have multiple watchlists
- replacement of incompetent WMF staff members with people who were qualified
- Better report generation capability
- A public watchlist to go with the private one
- the ability to have multiple watchlists
- replacement of incompetent WMF staff members with people who were qualified
- Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:55 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Mostly inactive admins in 5 years
- Replies: 37
- Views: 1565
Re: Mostly inactive admins in 5 years
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:NeilN&diff=prev&oldid=862467173 This is about NeilN . According to the data on his user page, he's done quite a bit on Wikipedia in his time. He seems to have been inactive for a spell last year due to off-wiki issues. If he's still not doing muc...
- Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:39 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
- Replies: 3839
- Views: 209759
Re: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
SilkTork seems to say that, according to the T&S report, the only objectionable thing Fram did after being warned was his "fuck ArbCom" comment. I don't think we knew that. I strongly suspect that they are starting to realize just how thin the 'evidence' is for any type of enforcement here. When th...
- Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:50 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
- Replies: 3839
- Views: 209759
Re: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
There are far worse monsters than Fram in this fairy tale we're reading. So why do you want to re-sysop any monster? Because the process by which he was handled was fucked. You don't allow decisions like that to stand or you set the stage for far more bad decisions in the future. Just because you d...
- Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:16 pm
- Forum: Technology
- Topic: Wikipedia down in Europe
- Replies: 29
- Views: 2083
Re: Wikipedia down in Europe
It's made the https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/wikipedia-down-not-working-stopped-ddos-attack-wikimedia-foundation-outage-why-a9095851.html,mainstream media in Britain: Wikipedia down: ‘Malicious attack’ brings down online encyclopedia after pages fail to load ‘Takedow...
- Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:59 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
- Replies: 3839
- Views: 209759
Re: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
Sarah Stierch wrote well but failed to cultivate the right relationships. Laura Hale wrote badly but cultivated one relationship with access to power. Sarah's problem was that she wanted to edit for pay, not for volunteer. That cost her a WMF position and should have cost her adminship as well but ...
- Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:38 am
- Forum: Technology
- Topic: Wikipedia down in Europe
- Replies: 29
- Views: 2083
Re: Wikipedia down in Europe
For what it's worth a large porton of the Cell service is currently not working in the US. It could be related, but I'm not sure. Do you have any reporting on this? Regions/areas effected. I see Verizon down for most of the East Coast (FEMA Regions I-III) and a US Cellular map with I-III and a lot ...
- Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:20 am
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
- Replies: 3839
- Views: 209759
Re: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
What on earth makes Jehochman think that he can do that? Come talk to me like EllenCT is a little kid? This is ludicrous and I hope she reverts it and tells him to quote Floquenbeam, "Fuck off!".Vigilant wrote:This seems cheeky
I thought you weren't supposed to remove other people's comments...
- Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:28 pm
- Forum: Technology
- Topic: Wikipedia down in Europe
- Replies: 29
- Views: 2083
Re: Wikipedia down in Europe
For what it's worth a large porton of the Cell service is currently not working in the US. It could be related, but I'm not sure.
- Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:27 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
- Replies: 3839
- Views: 209759
Re: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
So, the outcome is set. 1a Fram's 1 year ban is vacated 7 0 0 PASSING · 1b Fram's 1 year ban is disproportionate 7 0 0 PASSING · 1c Fram's 1 year ban is justified 0 7 0 NOT PASSING Cannot pass 2a Fram's sysop userright is reinstated 2 5 0 NOT PASSING Cannot pass Fram's extra life was used. I don't ...
- Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:30 am
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: Donation banner added yet again
- Replies: 19
- Views: 752
Re: Donation banner added yet again
Yeah Deskana is another one who proves that on Wikipedia, real life mediocrity and failure is rewarded through adminship. Maybe if we worked in Subway doling out bland sandwiches with week-old lettuce, we could all be admins too.
- Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:13 am
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
- Replies: 3839
- Views: 209759
Re: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
I also agree with Eric here that everyone knew that the outcome of this case was predetermined and in fact almost all the arbcom cases are because if they didn't think there was a problem to resolve they wouldn't accept the case in the first place. I also agree that the Arbcom lacks the moral coura...
- Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:40 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
- Replies: 3839
- Views: 209759
Re: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
But, on a side note, Fram being banned is yet another one of the people who participated in my bullshit ban being forced out...just like they forced me out. Well, like my sig says, sometimes our rights get defined in cases involving not very nice people. Even if Fram was harassing someone, the proc...
- Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:20 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
- Replies: 3839
- Views: 209759
Re: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
But, on a side note, Fram being banned is yet another one of the people who participated in my bullshit ban being forced out...just like they forced me out. Well, like my sig says, sometimes our rights get defined in cases involving not very nice people. Even if Fram was harassing someone, the proc...
- Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:28 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
- Replies: 3839
- Views: 209759
Re: Fram blocked by User:WMFOffice for 1 year
Fram's a wee bit pissed . He should be pissed and he is right to be mad. He's also right that the Arbcom is a joke and a bunch of liars. I hope the community recognizes that ad disbands the arbcom and or votes out all its members. But, on a side note, Fram being banned is yet another one of the peo...
- Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:23 pm
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: Donation banner added yet again
- Replies: 19
- Views: 752
Re: Donation banner added yet again
I wish we could replace it with where the money goes. A huge chunk of the donations go to fund things that no one would view as worthy causes. I wished that big ugly banner didn't show up on any IP or account that is blocked or banned. If the WMF tells an IP or account that they don't want them con...
- Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:19 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Barkeep49 RFA
- Replies: 45
- Views: 2635
Re: Barkeep49 RFA
There are now three opposes. AlexEng argues "that the candidate does not have any particular need for the tools in order to continue doing the good work that they already do on the project". Nihlus notes that Barkeep49 doesn't seem very interested in admin work. Ejgreen77 is worried that Barkeep49 ...
- Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:24 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Arbitration
- Replies: 549
- Views: 22691
Re: Arbitration
Fred Bauder has an acute case of something that afflicts many senior Wikipedians, a conviction that he is totally right, contempt for those who disagree and a stubborn refusal to concede an inch. You get all that from him blowing off a proceeding in an ethical sanctions case and having a default ju...
- Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:21 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Arbitration
- Replies: 549
- Views: 22691
Re: Arbitration
Fred Bauder has an acute case of something that afflicts many senior Wikipedians, a conviction that he is totally right, contempt for those who disagree and a stubborn refusal to concede an inch. You get all that from him blowing off a proceeding in an ethical sanctions case and having a default ju...
- Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:06 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Barkeep49 RFA
- Replies: 45
- Views: 2635
Re: Barkeep49 RFA
Look at it the other way: in those 17 months he's created a few hundred new articles and managed to bring 20 articles to GA status. That's fairly impressive. People often bitch that a lot of admins don't understand content editing, well this guy certainly does. He was asked about this and I think h...
- Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:03 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Barkeep49 RFA
- Replies: 45
- Views: 2635
Re: Barkeep49 RFA
Look at it the other way: in those 17 months he's created a few hundred new articles and managed to bring 20 articles to GA status. That's fairly impressive. People often bitch that a lot of admins don't understand content editing, well this guy certainly does. He was asked about this and I think h...
- Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:34 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: WMUK annual report
- Replies: 21
- Views: 774
Re: WMUK annual report
Their wiki has been broken for well over a year . They can't find anyone to fix it for them. That's likely due to multiple problems: no one cares, no one wants to waste their time fixing something with zero value; no one thinks enough of Wikimedia UK to want to invest their time, etc. They have ten...
- Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:31 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Barkeep49 RFA
- Replies: 45
- Views: 2635
Re: Barkeep49 RFA
Yeah I always found those a bit silly as well. I always found it rather hypocritical that they would discount opposes if they didn't feel the oppose was justified, but they allow supports like this.
- Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:29 pm
- Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
- Topic: Donation banner added yet again
- Replies: 19
- Views: 752
Re: Donation banner added yet again
I wish we could replace it with where the money goes. A huge chunk of the donations go to fund things that no one would view as worthy causes. I wished that big ugly banner didn't show up on any IP or account that is blocked or banned. If the WMF tells an IP or account that they don't want them con...
- Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:52 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: WMUK annual report
- Replies: 21
- Views: 774
Re: WMUK annual report
That's likely due to multiple problems: no one cares, no one wants to waste their time fixing something with zero value; no one thinks enough of Wikimedia UK to want to invest their time, etc.tarantino wrote:Their wiki has been broken for well over a year. They can't find anyone to fix it for them.
- Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:49 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Barkeep49 RFA
- Replies: 45
- Views: 2635
Re: Barkeep49 RFA
Barkeep has all the qualities that are sought in an admin these days. They have had an account for years; they aren't very active; they're not likely to rock the boat or do anything to attempt to improve or change the culture or the community; they're likely to blindly vote yes along with fellow adm...
- Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:46 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: WP Sado-Masochism Festival — It's 2019 Arbcom Election Time!
- Replies: 735
- Views: 32142
Re: WP Sado-Masochism Festival — It's 2019 Arbcom Election T
Given the declining quality of the candidates in recent years, the lack of competency and activity of those who have passed and the progressively lower passing percentages, this year is likely to be an interesting election. So many seats are up for reelection, it will be interesting to see if they e...
- Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:46 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: WMF Trust and Safety - the oxymorons
- Replies: 39
- Views: 1756
Re: WMF Trust and Safety - the oxymorons
Seiously, with both the Framban as well as the 2030 Strategy recommendations, there is a fundamental problem of what rules apply when very few people are editing in an area. Suppose that you and I are the only two people editing WP to create BLPs of Spanish Paraolympic athletes. Am I wikihounding y...
- Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:05 pm
- Forum: News and Media
- Topic: India
- Replies: 55
- Views: 788
Re: Why Wikipedia is asking users in India to donate
I really think that these request for donations shouldn't show up to any IP or editor that's blocked. I find it extremely bad form to tell someone, or entire IP ranges, that they can't edit...oh but we'll take your money.
- Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:43 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: WMF Trust and Safety - the oxymorons
- Replies: 39
- Views: 1756
Re: WMF Trust and Safety - the oxymorons
Welcome to the party, folks. One flamethrower each, line on the left. Here are how long each member has had a WMF account and how many edits to all projects they have made in that time from their official account. At least some of them have another username that they use for non-WMF business, so th...
- Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:30 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: WMF Trust and Safety - the oxymorons
- Replies: 39
- Views: 1756
Re: WMF Trust and Safety - the oxymorons
I don't care what Guy or Seraphimblade say about the T&S section, my personal interactions with them have shown the complete opposite. They are utterly incompetent and totally untrustworthy. NO member of the Wikipedia community should trust them.
- Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:40 pm
- Forum: Governance
- Topic: Wikimedia monthly activities meetings
- Replies: 16
- Views: 1866
Re: Wikimedia monthly activities meetings
The monthly activities meetings are posted in YouTube with displayed view counts. I assume that the view counts include the users that watch the live stream. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhV3K_DS5YfKOB0fRh1XXCEBuczGa33iA,Playlist September 2014 - 452 views August 2015 - 212 views August 2...