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This has hit the headlines again for some reason. Tyson Fury 'banned from Wikipedia' for editing Wladimir Klitschko's profile Fury, whose knockout of Deontay Wilder last month cemented the Gypsy King’s place as the world’s best heavyweight, is known for his unconventional goading of opponents. Befor...

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The University of Canberra has 24 postgraduate students in its school of Science, making it smaller than many groups in Biology (led by one professor). It does not have departments of mathematics, philosophy, computer science, or Biology. Maybe it is a university specializing in special-education s...

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He could probably argue that he's doing nothing controversial, only making unambiguous improvements. Still, that won't cut any ice with the powers that be; he's definitely breaking the rules. Is he deliberately trying to become a martyr?

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They seem to have settled on "former pornographer". I see that one of the main editors of the article is Philip Cross (T-C-L). That is a gift for conspiracy theorists.

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Because very few Wikipedia editors are interested in, or probably capable of, writing articles about mathematicians. Also, with the weird rules and guidelines about notability, there's more chance of an article about a mathematics professor being deleted than one about someone who's played one game ...

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Moral Hazard wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 05, 2021 12:31 pm
On Jimbo Wales (T-C-L), somebody should ask Jimmy Wales (T-H-L) his lockdown secret for staying so fit.

It's his impeccably virtuous lifestyle.

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It's extremely hard to delete an article about a random village with no details, or a random baseball player who no one remembers the name of. NOTNEWS is functionally dead in practice. There's still a billion more cricketing pages than anyone outside of 25 people care about, and will forever be so....

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Why doesn't he start an online encyclopaedia that anyone can edit, so that people always refer to him as the Sole Flounder of Desmondpaedia? It worked for Jimbo.

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At the start of each university year, we ask first-year students a question: how many have been told by their secondary teachers not to use Wikipedia? Without fail, nearly every hand shoots up. Wikipedia offers free and reliable information instantly. So why do teachers almost universally distrust ...

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I don't think he's any more (or less) of a pornographer than Jimbo, except that he was rather more financially successful. And if giving lots of money (not all earned by pornography) to good causes makes you a philanthropist, then he is one. But if enough editors are determined to keep him described...

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His conviction has been confirmed. But so far only by conducting a search through court records (on a court website that states "The case information from this web site is not the official record of the Trial Court...." ), which appears to fall foul of WP:BLPPRIMARY policy. Everyone was expecting t...

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Karine Elharrar (T-H-L): "She has muscular dystrophy[which?] and uses a wheelchair." Is it likely that her detailed medical records are public knowledge, and would the information be encyclopaedic even if it were available?

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I see you referred to "billingual" puns. Are they puns made by Billinghurst (T-C-L)?

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Absurdly, the Terence (T-H-L) article is about some Roman playwright, not the tractor. That Terence is relegated to a brief mention in List of characters in The Railway Series (T-H-L). Where is any sense of priority in Wikipedia?

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Someone's corrected the 33 to 36. I'm not sure when the next president, https://unstats.un.org/unsd/undataforum/dubai-2018/speakers/stephen-penneck/,Stephen Penneck , takes over, but he has no article yet although I'd say he passes WP:PROF even without holding that presidency. Update: Stephen Penne...

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Proof that 22/7 exceeds π (T-H-L): This article only discusses proofs using calculus. There are more elementary methods, based on the procedure Archimedes used to find the 22/7 approximation in the first place, involving the area and perimeter of polygons inscribed in or circumscribed around a circle.

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Well, there is a concerted right-wing campaign on Rotten Tomatoes and the like to tank the thing: there is a huge discrepancy between real reviewers and amateurs, on the order of something like 40%. Why is it a right-wing campaign? Is Marvel deemed to be too pro-vaccination or to accept the result ...

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From: Yair Rand Hm, a lot of the text has been reworded and re-ordered, but without that much difference in practical content. Complex enough that automatically-generated diffs aren't much use, so I put together a (quite messy) diff by hand: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Conflict_of_interest_poli...

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Jim wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 03, 2021 11:31 am
You deserve thanks for helping me

Thank you.

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Jim wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 03, 2021 11:22 am

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Wed Nov 03, 2021 11:18 am
De gustibus non est disputandum.
vilis off tibi foedius stimulo

My latin is rusty, so I used google translate. I hope that's ok.

Yes, that is well up to your usual standard.

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The Wikimedia Foundation legal team has posted a draft of an updated conflict of interest policy on Meta-Wiki: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Conflict_of_interest_policy/2021_updates We are collecting feedback on the policy for the next three weeks: today until 22 November. This is still only a dr...

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Jim wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 03, 2021 11:06 am

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Wed Nov 03, 2021 11:04 am
Can't we have a little humour on here occasionally?
Yes. Thank you for asking.

Was there some before the second post in this thread which I missed?

De gustibus non est disputandum.

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Jim wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:46 am

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Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:42 am
I expect that the film is a parable about Wikipedia, with the Celestials representing the admins who defend the world's most important website against the "Deviants" who vandalise it.
No. You don't.

Can't we have a little humour on here occasionally?

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Photo added by Tomwsulcer and owned by Partisan Records and Knitting Factory Records which gives full permission for its use in Wikimedia. Second-hand permission releases always seem awkward. A lot like "The dog ate Tommy's homework - signed Tommy's Ma". Surely it's just a question of someone e-mai...

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Marvel's Eternals plot details are posted to Wikipedia, and they're all wrong. Eternals is the newest entry in the MCU, featuring an ensemble of superheroes created by beings known as Celestials, who send their creations to Earth to protect and guide humanity against the Deviants, an evil alien rac...

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Wikipedia Toasts Saints QB Siemian, Roasts Bucs and Tom Brady "If it's on Wikipedia, you know it's true." You've probably heard that line used a time or two in jest to describe the dubious nature of the information on Wikipedia. This comes from the online encyclopedia's history of allowing anyone t...

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Someone in Virginia changed the USC Football Wikipedia page to list Marvin Lewis as head coach instead of Donte Williams There’s a long history of Wikipedia vandalism around sports events, but the latest thing here seems particularly unusual for not having any real connection to either news or obvi...

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International rankings of Albania Not only is the article crap, most of the "international rankings" it links to are also crap. And there are dozens of similar articles for other countries that are also crap. They are presumably all extracted from the lists listed in List of international rankings ...

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Only on WP would the Socratic Method be described as 'trolling'. You just have to check the WP article Socratic Method : Scholars such as Peter Boghossian suggest that although the method improves creative and critical thinking, there is a flip side to the method. He states that the teachers who us...

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I think those "QA" people would never work at the WMF because the WMF would rather hoard all their money instead of using any of it on such mystical creatures. It could happen if a couple of dozen random volunteers with no experience of QA agreed to do it. The wisdom of crowds would ensure that it ...

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A different suggestion: every 6 months, we have admin elections. But instead of using SecurePoll, we select a sortition of 20 admins to vote on the nomination publicly. 13 votes and you're in, no bureaucratic discretion. Point of debate: maybe we sortition from "extended confirmed editors active in...

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Ryuichi wrote: ↑
Tue Nov 02, 2021 1:00 am

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Mon Nov 01, 2021 10:00 pm

Ryuichi wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 01, 2021 9:57 pm
I look forward to the camels.
The key decisions will be taken behind the scenes by the two WMF appointees and a couple of pro-WMF members.
I look forward to a camel, with a peacock's tail, and the face of a rhino.

I can show you something similar.

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Ryuichi wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 01, 2021 9:57 pm
A committee of 15?

I look forward to the camels.

The key decisions will be taken behind the scenes by the two WMF appointees and a couple of pro-WMF members.

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There's also a spin-off discussion. This could spread in all directions. :hrmph: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive_15#Should_Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27_noticeboard%2FIncidents%23Wikipedia%3AArticle_Rescue_Squadron_is_getting_problematic_be_moved_to...

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Risker has now pointed out that Secure Poll can only be used for a single election at any given time, meaning en.wp would be hogging the hell out of it if we did the elections thing. I had no idea it was limited in that way. Seems kinda stupid. :unsure: Is there any reason why with all its resource...

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The results of the election: 1018 participants voted to elect seven members to the committee: * Richard Knipel (Pharos) * Anne Clin (Risker) * Alice Wiegand (Lyzzy) * Michał Buczyński (Aegis Maelstrom) * Richard (Nosebagbear) * Ciell (Ciell) * Ravan J Al-Taie (Ravan) The affiliate process has select...

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They tell you what to believe Fundamentalist atheist Richard Dawkins has discovered that Wackypedia editors are the true gods of the internet and that he is but a worthless sinner. Dawkins has been telling the story of his run in with Wackypedia’s legendary editorial team. For those who came in lat...

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Ritchie333 wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 01, 2021 1:02 pm
Never interacted with Andreas directly, but his posts here and on the blog are part of what made me think Wikipediocracy isn't some "off-wiki attack site" but something actually worth interacting with.

Yes, he was always one of the best posters on here.

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Good sockmasters ought to have the cunning and skills to pass RfA. It seems that Icewhiz probably nearly did. The only way to stop socking altogether is to have watertight personal identification, which will never happen because it would be incompatible with even a pretence of "anyone can edit" and ...

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Toronto Street News Toronto Street News is a conspiracy exposing type tabloid newspaper based in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. It is distributed on the streets of Toronto by the homeless, handicapped and underemployed in exchange for a donation. It is now in its 12th year and has surpassed two million ...

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Johnny Au wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 01, 2021 5:00 am
Town drunk (T-H-L)

This article reads more like a TV Tropes entry than a Wikipedia article. It survived AfD.

It survived the AfD on the understanding that a decent article could be written about the topic. Maybe it's time for a second AfD.

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Photos seem to be completely exempt from the usual rules about reliable sources and original research. Stick up a photo, say what it is and the chances are that nobody will query it.

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I think that in the earliest days on Wikipedia everyone was an admin. Of course, that soon became completely impracticable.

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Hannah wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:16 am

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Sun Oct 31, 2021 12:00 pm
I already noted this in another thread.
I didn't realize this was already posted elsewhere, sorry.

That's quite OK.

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MadManz wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 31, 2021 5:22 pm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... s/Bodiadub https://wikibusines.com/ link

This is very impressive, and if it is associated with paid editing is of course utterly beyond the pale in Wikiworld.

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After being a featured article since 2009, the crappy cruft article Doug Ring with the Australian cricket team in England in 1948 has finally been reviewed as a featured article and sent to AfD. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Doug_Ring_with_the_Australian_cricket_team...

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There was a huge argument about whether the Rosemary Tonks article should say that she had "disappeared", despite several sources saying she had, and the word was removed more than once. Eventually, after her death and a flood of articles about her disappearance, it was agreed that she had disappear...

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I already noted this in another thread.

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Being serious, there are articles that are whitewashes and omit important negative information. I recently mentioned Archer Martin (T-H-L),and it can't be hard to find others.

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I hate to think what would happen if every fact or claim in every obituary had to be inserted into articles.

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