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Icewhiz

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jullianorange&diff=964361707&oldid=964340799 GOD DAMN IT THEY FOUND ME OUT AGAIN! HOW DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING?!? Oh, Flyer22 Frozen goes after every new account that shows even a whiff of not being new and is editing Human sexuality (particularl...

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I would've thought AE would be a better route, leaving ARCA for a 2nd chance or appeal. Part of the ARCA holdup was David not answering promptly, but after he di the Arbs mostly ignored it. ARCA can be slow. Heck, anything involving the Arbs can be pretty slow.

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Poor David Tornheim . He requests a lifting of his topic ban from 2016 from editing in the GMO sphere. Three months later... he's still waiting. Why is he asking at ARCA? He could have gone AE, seeing that the restriction was AE to begin with and that it was already narrowed at AE. What am I missing?

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The common expression "try to take chess pieces off the board" never made any sense to me, because the whole point of chess is to take pieces off the board. What the hell would someone be doing during a chess game other than trying to take pieces off the board? If they're just moving the pieces aro...

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I'm pretty sure you can sock with that account being similar to the original's username and edit completely different topics. (I was A Great Catholic Person until 2017 and I can have something like "Catholic Person" today editing topics not related to what AGCP edited.) You could, but you'd also be...

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Belated update (I am following Wikipedia sporadically these days) - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ASockpuppet_investigations%2FIcewhiz&type=revision&diff=957060036&oldid=957054998 The account Janj9088 did not use a proxy while Fireslow/Bartosz True did. While I cannot absolut...

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To be clear, I did not admit socking. I am unable to edit directly. I did give a few talks (in Israel, the United States, and even (via video) Poland) encouraging people to edit. Assuming that all of the above Icewhiz says is true (is it? :) ) they are not only socking themselves but also actively ...

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Were they deny socking, only to admit to socking 2 hours later by saying: " I agree that being topic banned myself is an unfortunate wrinkle here and prevents me from editing directly ." You really need to work on your reading comprehension skills. Neither statement denied nor admitted anything. To...

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Yes Nableezy, I agree that being topic banned myself is an unfortunate wrinkle here and prevents me from editing directly. But surely, a reprieve by an appeal to ARBCOM is always possible? :B' I could have told you how this was going to end before you opened the case. I would have too. While I had ...

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Yes Nableezy, I agree that being topic banned myself is an unfortunate wrinkle here and prevents me from editing directly. But surely, a reprieve by an appeal to ARBCOM is always possible?

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I don't quite understand why GizzyCatBella thinks this motion has anything to do with me. Stumped really. Perhaps, however, in thinking in how to deal with Polish nationalists, their conspiracy theories, and antisemitic vandalism on Wikipedia, the committee had recalled this ARCA request of mine fro...

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<snarf> Should I take this up with ARBCOM, the ombudsman, T&S, or the press? And in what order? Oh yes, I'd advise emailing ARBCOM that you're considering legal action... Well, yes, that would be a prerequisite (contacting the superiors) to legal action vs. Wikipedia/foundation - however I am extre...

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The Polish nationalist clique is now accusing anyone with pro-Jewish views in the context of Polish-Jewish relations of being a "sockpuppet" of Icewhiz. ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Icewhiz/Archive Heh, just had look there - Piotrus has been basically writin...

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GCB - you are taking things too literally. The Nazi policy for Silesia from the outset was to Germanize all of the population. The GG moved in the same direction, but later. In practice, this meant they basically accepted anyone who was willing to state some connection to ethnic Germans (and in some...

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Finally, there were actually some ethnic Germans who were Polish citizens who actively resisted German rule. ... They were probably the exception. Do try to tone-down the anti-German prejudice, Marek. Fact of the matter, Poles could choose to be Germans and Germans could choose to be Poles - that w...

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Is this one of your socks, Icewhiz? The EEML tag team ( Piotrus + MyMoloboaccount ) appear to think Janj9088 is a reincarnation of English Patriot Man : https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Diannaa&oldid=954109217#English_Patriot_Man_again? Or at least they tried to convince Diannaa...

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This is an interesting one. Janj9088 is an account with few edits, created back in March 2018, and from use of Polish language sources and topics - probably a left-wing Polish speaker. He was brought to AE for edit warring on a DS page + socking: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:...

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Definitely not a personal attack - a rather rational comment that the activity level was indeed a joke. Tony is licking up to those in positions of authority - he's pretty consistent in that.

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I for one am somewhat amazed a sitting Arb ( Maxim ) is advocating Jytdog should sock (or quiet return ) and not appeal: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Jytdog/Proposed_decision&diff=950201812&oldid=950199967 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=W...

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Well, to be fair, it seems that many of the WikiProject Medicine members really do not get along. Constant bickering and sniping.

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The whole point of closing discussions is casting the occasional, well reasoned and defensible, supervote.

As supervotes go, the contention that this topic should be merged into the wider COVID page in India is defensible.

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Not me, Marek. ... And cut the shit about "glomar response" or whatever. Your response is simply not normal. There's only two possibilities here. Either you're someone completely eaten up by self loathing who really really really hates himself - because no person capable of feeling emotion would be...

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Not me, Marek. I do not know if to believe there were phone calls - again not me. Given ARBCOM reacted to something in lifting the IBAN, I am convinced some sort of Wikipedia account(s) was involved - but it wasn't me, and it appears to me to be counterproductive to the point of being a False flag ....

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The fact that you ran that Twitter account is undeniable. The appearance of Wikipedia accounts making (implicit of course, as is your style, but very clear) violent threats soon after is unlikely to be coincidence. As are the phone calls to my work. Oh, and even on Twitter I recall that when you we...

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1. Lest you forget, go fuck yourself. Lest we forget Icewhiz doxxed, harassed and threatened myself and my family with violence repeatedly. And his citing of Haaretz and GW is disingenous since he was the source of information for those pieces (Haaretz for sure, GW probably) 1. I merely gave an int...

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What we do know is that there were German units present in town on the day of the pogrom. We do know that German killing squads were operating in the area (even though, as Grabowski points out in his attempt at a "gotcha", these were headquartered in Minsk) and that they did organize some pogroms i...

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It's just way more likely that the Nazis organized it and/or ordered it, and found a group of locals to do the dirty work with attitudes ranging from enthusiasm to fear-of-being-killed-for-refusing. That's not what modern research shows. In a few towns in Poland there were pogroms, in most not ( In...

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1. So nice to see far-right Polish tropes on a Jedwabne conspiracy bandied about here: That the question of exhuming remains has resurfaced reflects the pressure on Poland’s ruling party from far-right groups that call historical evidence of Poles doing the killings to be a “Jewish lie.” from https:...

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Exactly how do the last umpteen posts forward a discussion of the Holocaust in Poland ArbCom Case? Maybe we need a separate "People from Poland or who claim to know about Poland insult each other" thread. :hrmph: Well, the one pertinent piece of info, beyond Wikipedians and ex-Wikipedians shouting ...

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As for "expert opinion" - again an unsourced claim. All you have here is Grabowski, which obviously wrote his nonsense article with help from you. At same time you ignore "expert opinion" like Stola, Rossino, Machcewicz, Polonsky, US Holocaust Museum and so on and so forth. You're just shamelessly ...

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Volunteer Marek is also named by Grabowski as one of the militant nationalist editors. Go fuck yourself you psychotic sleaze. What? You disappointed that you can't call me at work office anymore and threaten me in person? Sorry, staying out cuz social distancing and all. ... Go fuck yourself you ly...

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Bbb23 will probably be back. The question is not so much if but when.

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The next source is "The Neighbors Respond: The Controversy over the Jedwabne Massacre in Poland" edited by Antony Polonsky, Joanna B. Michlic. As everyone knows, the historians Polonsky and Michilic are POLISH NATIONALIST!!!! Actually, Michilic is one of Icewhiz's favorite source, precisely because...

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Not sure what makes you think I am Piotrus, but given that On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog and such, you can call me Piotrus, Fram, Jimbo Wales or whatever. Besides, the obvious: Radek, why are you bothering with a SPA who doesn't even have the courage to admit his Wikipedia username? fr...

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Ok, so basically this Grabowski guy wants to be cited more and complains he isn't? Really, what's the problem? If you think he is right, just fix the articles and cite him. Hey Piotrus , long time no see! Grabowski does not complain over use of himself as a source or lack thereof. He does complain ...

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Careful with "polonophiles", as ARBCOM deemed this term to be " inappropriate ethnically derogatory comments" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Antisemitism_in_Poland#Incivility_and_inflammatory_rhetoric In terms of Grabowski's piece, short summary of TLDR: 1. He labe...

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It seems GizzyCatBella's account of the truth aligns with a far-right agenda. The picture arising from these edits is crystal clear. Hmm... it could also be a Roman Catholic agenda. If she's Polish, that would make more sense, at least in terms of the percentages. Anyway, if you two are going to ha...

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Are you able Icewhiz to write something without lies, falsifications, falsehoods, twists, distortions, tricks and misrepresentations as you did every day on Wikipedia? In case you were wondering on GizzyCatBella's idea of truthful account, I just went through her recent contributions, and a disturb...

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* For sufficiently low values of half. Having trouble seeing 4094 IP addresses of a /20 as being half of a population of 8.7 million; or even as being unreasonable for a time limited block. What am I missing? 6 months, with talk page blocked (for HOT - 2 separate range blocks). 3 years for Triple-C...

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I think Robert would be a good admin. However, his work on DRN (+ followup from DRN.... post-DRN disruption) has probably garnered enough detractors that I will be surprised if this will pass.

For RfA, it is best to be a "clean" no conflict type of account (pre-RFA....).

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Of course you are always watched on Wikipedia. Back when I was editing, I was being watched by pro-Palestinian groups, the Polish far-right, and the UK far-left. Heck, the Polish far-right still is writing about me on social media - e.g. Twitter or wykop.pl (the Polish Reddit/Digg clone): https://ww...

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JFC, you are just incapable of not lying. El_C as Malik Shabazz? Are you fucking serious? YOU got Malik Shabazz blocked and drove him out of Wikipedia with your slimy tactics, so you know there's pretty much no way this can be true. How did you do it? Oh. That's right, you sent a secret email to Sa...

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Incidentally, Berean Hunter has been AWOL since 2 February and this action: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Cassianto&diff=938658388&oldid=938373480 - using a selective block on Cassianto from all user talk pages for this comment: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=938192...

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I do wonder what percentage of IPv4 space and active IPv6 space is blocked on enwiki. I suspect that with the very light trigger finger, a large proportion of address space is blocked. I am not sure how to technically query this on enwiki, however. There's a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:...

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I do wonder what percentage of IPv4 space and active IPv6 space is blocked on enwiki. I suspect that with the very light trigger finger, a large proportion of address space is blocked. I am not sure how to technically query this on enwiki, however.

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The indef block of Minecrafter without much of a prior warning (warnings by other users on same RfC - no edits by Minecrafter after them I think) seems more than a bit harsh given what I see in terms of diffs. I would suspect that DQ did this since her nose (and possibly her CU bit) led her to belie...

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Policy wise? None. Yaniv wasn't known for BLP violations in his talk messages - he mostly reverts vandalism + pushes his POV - but nothing that needs a revdel. The socks don't request unblocks either (and that doesn't explain yanking the range's talk page access). However - there is one great reaso...

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Aren't most arbs also CUs? All of 'em. It comes with the package, but it's mostly for use in "investigation". Which they don't do, according to BBrox. Would you be surprised to learn that BBrox is wrong? Most arbs range between clueless, inept, and amateur at CU. It does not mean they don't use it ...

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It's pretty daft to block talk page access on a wide range block. What could be the justification for that? Policy wise? None. Yaniv wasn't known for BLP violations in his talk messages - he mostly reverts vandalism + pushes his POV - but nothing that needs a revdel. The socks don't request unblock...

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El C took over the power vaccuum left when NeilN disappeared. Is he better or worse or the same as NeilN? Was there any visible/public reason for NeilN's disappearance? No, NeilN was in good standing - and stopped abruptly (with a brief comeback) a while before El_C coming back. They don't quite fi...

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