Wikipediocracy

everyking

If someone... is the sort of person who would block everyone who disagrees with him from his talk page, then the solution is to ban the user. People like that aren't here to build an encyclopedia. I'm hoping we can move to an understanding that we don't have to put up with people who have nothing u...

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It was amusing for me just now to look back on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Everyking from January 2005 and see that virtually everyone who contributed to that ridiculous distortion of events is gone (some inactive/retired, some banned). And good riddance, frankly. Pa...

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It sounds good, but I think the practical reality is that among the administrative power culture are the most uncivil of all. You've got those like arbitrator Beeblebrox who is routinely and profanely abusive and in fact authored the infamous "Fuck Off" essay defending his right and encouraging oth...

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The authoritarian types who dominate Wikipedia tend to believe that banning people, and keeping them banned, is more important than building quality content. They believe that because they have become so absorbed in the politics of Wikipedia that they have lost sight of its purpose. One way to highl...

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They always complain about what thankless, time-consuming, hard work it is. In that case they are welcome to stop doing it and relax, and Wikipedia will be a better place for it.

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Yeah, I catch things like this every now and then. Whenever you see a strange gap in an article, check the page history.

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It's an interesting choice of language. "Delete" is just a technical word, and it would seem adequate for technical functions, but "suppress" comes with dark and sinister connotations. Maybe it makes people feel more powerful or something.

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I thought it would be interesting to look at the list of recent resysoppings, which goes up to 15 and back to October 2013. What's interesting is that a large majority of the 15 are still more or less inactive. Amusingly, El C, who was resysopped back in October, has failed to make any edits at all ...

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According to the April figures currently displayed* on http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaEN.htm,stats.wikimedia.org new account registrations in the English Wikipedia have dropped below 6,000 for only the second time since November 2005 (the first time was September 2013; September figur...

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I still don't understand what that mailing list is for. It has a lot of foreign people on it who blather on about obscure and uninteresting subjects in broken English. I don't understand half of it. What irritates me most is the way that you are put 'on moderation' but it's clearly a block. Yet the...

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Game-players, people who are just there for the petty politics and drama or some pathetic lust for power, seldom last very long. Wikipedia enables them, but it also enables other game-players to take them down a notch, and they normally leave whenever they lose a fight, since they lack any real comm...

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I'm not even sure which part of that seemingly inoffensive email would be cited as the pretext for putting you on moderation. It's sad that they feel they must exclude even the most polite and thoughtful critics. What a vicious, obnoxious little clique.

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Okay. Triptych, I believe you completely misread Sumana's speech and its targets. Part of the testing involves social skills in cooperative education. "... do you turn into a jerk when you're trying to solve a problem with someone else or teach someone something?" She comments that it's hard to 'ke...

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It's a shame that Wil's gone. If you want to discuss Wikipedia honestly, this is the place to be--there's no way to do it on Wikipedia itself without putting yourself in the line of fire (but I commend Wil for trying, of course). Yeah, you may need thick skin to post over here, but no one's going to...

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Wil, your ability to stay so calm and polite when dealing with these vicious people, while continuing to attempt to engage them in reasonable discussion, is truly impressive, and I respect you tremendously for it. Meanwhile, the fact that a few individuals have reacted to your overtures with such ho...

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#3 is the keynote speech of Sumana Harihareswara, which was a call to arms for those favoring a purge campaign in favor of "civility," positing a new dichotomy between "liberty" and "hospitality" and advancing the powerful slogan "If we exclude no one explicitly, we are just excluding a lot of peop...

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When potential attendees at the conference said they wouldn't attend if Kohs was there, why didn't the organizers remind them that the conference platform specifically welcomed everyone, regardless of their status on WP, then told them that it was unfortunate that they couldn't attend but that the ...

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@Barbour: I give. Here's the reveal. I am actually an ninety-four-year-old broomstick designer living in Doha. We Qataris love Wikipedia a lot. You want my real name? I... Don't seem to recall. Dementia strikes. You can call me Bonkers, good meeting you. Masquerading as a bratty kid is fun! It look...

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NYB is not amused by the controversy: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_Wikipedia_controversies&curid=39122482&diff=612441889&oldid=612441768 "No further time and effort should at present be spent on this feigned and manufactured controversy. It appears that this article and it...

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By the way, when I count heads in that group photo, I only count 87 people. Perhaps 125 total people were involved with this conference in some way or another, but I think the number of people actively involved was a little less than that. Maybe the others were turned away at the door? I understand...

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Wil has asked Brad, the one who uninvited Kohs to the conference, to sign his petition about not banning people from conferences. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... =612011576

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It's just one more example of WP's tendency to give undue weight to minor events, especially recent, just because they can be sourced. It wouldn't be "undue weight" if the article was comprehensive. "Undue weight" is a normal side-effect of the process of developing articles. Some things, naturally...

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It's just one more example of WP's tendency to give undue weight to minor events, especially recent, just because they can be sourced. It wouldn't be "undue weight" if the article was comprehensive. "Undue weight" is a normal side-effect of the process of developing articles. Some things, naturally...

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What's wrong with that? The only reason anyone even knows about it is because she wrote a column about it, so she's certainly not trying to keep it private. And if it's getting some broader attention, it ought to have a mention.

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He gave up. But he is still a 'crat and admin. Enwiki has a Wikipedia:Inactive administrators procedure. One year with no edits or admin actions, subject to removal. Last action as admin, 14 August 2012. Check. Last edit, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sphilbrick&diff=prev&old...

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Here's the origin of the concept behind the slogan "Adminship is no big deal." Wiki_Administrators People who have the administrative password can do some extra-powerful stuff like automatically renaming pages. For example, one could rename a page from JohnQDude to [[John Q Dude]], and not only wou...

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Midsize Jake wrote:
everyking wrote:...maybe he's moved on and wants to forget it all....
Last I heard from him, that was his intent - and he seemed quite definitive about it.

Any idea why he went from very noisy to very silent all of a sudden?

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So Jimbo "vaguely remembers Karmafist", but that's as far as his memory goes, naturally. He can't confirm or deny saying those terrible things. What ever happened to Karmafist, anyway? He sure was noisy for a while, and then it seemed like he just vanished. Did he decide to shut up after Jimbo had a...

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It would be nice to have a rule that every block more than say 24 hours must be confirmed by a second admin. Of course that would be of only limited value, since it's easy enough for most admins to call a friend, but it would help a bit. All blocks other than for unambiguous username violations, sp...

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To the best of my knowledge, most - if not all - claims of members of WR or Wikipediocracy "calling the police" on a Wikipedian stem from this WR thread . Apparently someone read it and called the Univ. of Florida campus police in Gainesville to have a look at Phil "Snowspinner" Sandifer, ostensibl...

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a rule that no content contributor can be blocked without endorsement from a community discussion. That sounds excellent, but there are two problems: * You can have endless argument about who is a "content contributor". * As a rule, "community" discussions just involve a handful of unrepresentative...

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AE went wrong because the Arbcom and the community at large has allowed 2 or 3 admins with views on the extreme end of the spectrum like Sandstein to homestead and do whatever they want. Since they are only banning and blocking folks under Arbcom sanctions they can do whatever the want and for the ...

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8. Make project admins subject to reconfirmation at least every two years. Several people mentioned two-year terms. Is that a significant number in WP years, or did everyone come to it by Goldilocks principle? The Request for Adminship (RFA) process is generally seen as a potentially horrible exper...

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One hundred and twenty seven engineers. Two years later and they still haven't made even a half-assed visual editor. Oh, I don't know. I've been using it a bit recently and it's at least 40% ass. Thats the problem, VE has been out for over a year and after all the work they have put into it over th...

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"Well, as it is, he is on-notice that I am prepared to go meatspace on him if he keeps it up. Despite his defiant response, he may in the fullness of time realize that acting like a junior revolutonary teenager may not be the best way to influence Wikipedia policy and could very well backfire on hi...

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Wil, you do not know wikipedians. Meta cannot be used for that purpose. Please trust me on that. Also you may want to read that Wikipedia:Ignore Meta it was written by an arbitrator Beeblebrox just after he had that to say about Meta on Meta: http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3A...

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Joyce Banda's status in Wikipedia amended to Former President The Maravi Post, 23 May 2014 http://www.maravipost.com/national/politics/6079-joyce-banda-s-status-in-wikipedia-amended-to-former-president.html President Joyce Banda's status in Free Wikipedia has already been amended and it is now reco...

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At risk of reviving a long-enough thread that has mostly died down, I did just rediscovered this purported historical private comment by Jimmy Wales that suggests he has a long-standing tradition of threatening to contact employers to silence "trouble" on Wikipedia. Of course, we should believe the...

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Well, I'm sorry. As I said I didn't know your background. I had no idea you were such a prolific editor on the US military. It is beyond appalling, truly incomprehensible, that in the circumstances Wikipedia attempted to bring pressure on you by reporting you to the military. That is what Risker ha...

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greybeard wrote:Should not the title of this be changed, given that the allegation she is refuting is that she is a Tory?

"Tory claims not to be a Tory". That's what it says.

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To read all those quotes from the arbs is deeply disheartening. To put it politely, these are some seriously misguided individuals, and I don't believe any of them should have the slightest bit of power to harm other Wikipedians.

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Just FYI and I don't want to get into a lot of details other than to say it was done. Someone did contact my employer (DOD/DON) and I am not even close to being in trouble, quite the oposite. So I really should thank whoever sent it for bringing my real name and Wikipedia username association to th...

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So here is something else I think is pretty funny. The IP that edited at Arbcom which Newyorkbrad stated wasn't banned as far as he knew was blocked by another admin for block evasion. Not that I care really, but I point that out because they have zero proof that the IP was a blocked editor and in ...

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So here is something else I think is pretty funny. The IP that edited at Arbcom which Newyorkbrad stated wasn't banned as far as he knew was blocked by another admin for block evasion. Not that I care really, but I point that out because they have zero proof that the IP was a blocked editor and in ...

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After an IP posted a critical comment on the ArbCom's talk page, saying that "I am not banned and am in good standing but i dont dare make myself known and open myself up for retaliation", he was immediately reverted by Demiurge1000 as a "banned user". I questioned Demiurge1000 about how he knew th...

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After an IP posted a critical comment on the ArbCom's talk page, saying that "I am not banned and am in good standing but i dont dare make myself known and open myself up for retaliation", he was immediately reverted by Demiurge1000 as a "banned user". I questioned Demiurge1000 about how he knew tha...

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Wales silences some more: This discussion is closed. It is completely mistaken to characterize the problem of ongoing harassment of editors a problem of being "persistent about accessing". If you have further questions, I recommend you email them to WMF legal.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 19:36, 18 May 2014...

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Wales silences some more: This discussion is closed. It is completely mistaken to characterize the problem of ongoing harassment of editors a problem of being "persistent about accessing". If you have further questions, I recommend you email them to WMF legal.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 19:36, 18 May 2014...

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But at least ducks are pretty, peaceful creatures. The comparison is unfair. Maybe an overflowing toilet would be a better comparison.

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Bullshit, getting banned or not banned is a crap shoot. Everyone who stays active will eventually be banned. Wikipedia has developed a mindset that banning is the solution to everything, leading the project to self-destruct by senselessly removing its own contributors. It was just your turn, Kumiok...

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