Wikipediocracy

AndyTheGrump

Vigilant wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 09, 2024 4:03 pm
Time for Crow to find other things to do.

And preferably somewhere else to do them.

There are several topics that might merit serious discussion here. None of them benefit in any way whatsoever from Kraken/Crow/EndlessWikipediaSock's Gish-gallop walls of text.

AndyTheGrump

Seek medical help.

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So, no actual evidence that the article in question has been edited by paedophiles. As expected. And just how many prepubescent girls are going to be reading a Wikipedia article on navel fetishism, for that matter? If we want to have a serious discussion about the sexualisation of young girls, I sug...

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If you have any actual evidence that the article has been edited by paedophiles, I'm sure Wikipediocracy would like to see it. And given that the WMF actually appears to take its child protection policy seriously enough to block those appearing to support pedophilic behaviour with some regularity, t...

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Was practically unusable yesterday. Click on a link, then go do something else, and check back in a few minutes to see if anything had happened...

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Did you know that Wikipedia has an article on Navel fetishism ?. Of course it does. And needless to say, it has, over the years attracted a fair bit of dubious content. I cleaned out a 'celebrity' section a few years back, as blatant violations of WP:BLP policy - it consisted almost entirely of nave...

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And this, my Wikipedia friends, is why we need to accept that deducing Real Life ID is essential to identify problematic COI editing. We can be serious about either attacking COI-driven distortion of Wikipedia content or serious about preserving anonymity at all costs in all circumstances, but we c...

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DYK ... ... that Maggio di Accettura , a festival in Italy dedicated to the Christian martyr Saint Julian, might have pagan origins or be linked to Langobard history? Wikipedia once again endorsing claims of sainthood and this time martyrdom on the Main Page. Julian of Sora lived in the second or m...

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... that WFMT classical music radio host Don Tait owned such a large collection of recordings that he had to buy a house and have its floor reinforced to accommodate the weight? This is sourced to WFMT, which is surely the most independent and unbiased source regarding WFMT classical music radio ho...

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And this, my Wikipedia friends, is why we need to accept that deducing Real Life ID is essential to identify problematic COI editing. We can be serious about either attacking COI-driven distortion of Wikipedia content or serious about preserving anonymity at all costs in all circumstances, but we c...

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Just when it looked like Wikipedia had reached peak fucking-everything-up, they've managed to surpass themselves once more. Some bright spark named KlayCax has just closed the 'Where is Kate?' AfD as 'no consensus', only for it to be immediately reverted by Silver seren . As far as I can see, the Af...

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Randy from Boise wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:17 pm
...undescriptive of reality...

I prefer descriptions that actually describe things in sufficient detail that I can figure out what they are useful for.

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'Compendium of information' is vacuous verbiage, so vague as to contain almost no information itself.

And no, Wikipediocracy, in the sense I am clearly using it above, isn't a 'message board'. It is those, including myself, who actively participate on it.

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The level of Wikipedia paranoia about 'external canvassing' seems almost to have reached the point where the mere fact that something has been discussed externally is seen by some as sufficient reason to close down any further debate. This is of course deeply unhealthy, if not downright dangerous, a...

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It was dumb of GeneralNotability to block TheSpacebook in the middle of a discussion about whether they were canvassing when they posted here, but I gotta say that other than the timing of that block, GeneralNotability's instincts were right. TheSpacebook was a waste of everyone's time and attentio...

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Congratulations on your selective editing. For the record, the full discussion on GeneralNotability's talk page, without the 'I don't like you so I'm going to pretend you didn't start the discussion in the first place' omissions: Please see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Are people allowed to...

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"Remarkable restraint" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13259985/Richard-Kay-hippy-childhood-Kings-second-cousin-police-hurling-racist-abuse.html Some poor unfortunate with obvious mental health problems who is "68th in line to the throne" merits headlines in the Daily Mail 'Royalty'...

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"Remarkable restraint" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13259985/Richard-Kay-hippy-childhood-Kings-second-cousin-police-hurling-racist-abuse.html Some poor unfortunate with obvious mental health problems who is "68th in line to the throne" merits headlines in the Daily Mail 'Royalty' ...

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I look forward to not reading it with much anticipation...

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DYK ... ... that color-changing cats (artist's impression pictured) could help us communicate with the future? OK this is technically just extremely misleading, but since the overwhelming proportion of people will misunderstand it it is just dangerous scientific misinformation. This is PROFRINGE to...

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DYK ... ... that color-changing cats (artist's impression pictured) could help us communicate with the future? OK this is technically just extremely misleading, but since the overwhelming proportion of people will misunderstand it it is just dangerous scientific misinformation. This is PROFRINGE to...

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rnu, I feel like you don't understand DYK. You're supposed to be left with questions after reading a hook. The hook is supposed to be exciting. That's the whole point. You click on the article and satisfy the questions the hook raised for you. There is little excitement involved in seeing the DYK c...

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@TheSpacebook: yeah, Wikipedia does that. I can absolutely guarantee the "Wikipedia isn't censored' crowd will come out in force if this looks like gaining the slightest traction. And then there is the common attitude of many fans of Beyoncé, Swift etc that they have the right to fill Wikipedia with...

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C&B wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 30, 2024 1:47 pm
A question for our Time. Why does the banana milkshake keep disappearing from the McD's menu

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TheSpacebook :welcome: Personally, I'd say that Wikipedia was more Kafkaesque than Orwellian, though neither really capture its ability to generate drama out of trivia, and farce out of sheer pig-headed following of rules. It is, in many ways, deeply structurally flawed, both in its processes and in...

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List of Five grains in world culture How has this word-salad persisted for 13 years? Five grains, traditional set phrase for lists or groupings which may contain non-grain crops.[citation needed] Particular instances of Five grains of a single crop or other substance such as minerals and metals hav...

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Wankel engine Not a crap article as such. In fact I'd say that it does a reasonable enough job of explaining how these engines work, if you already understand ordinary piston engines. Unfortunately though, it dedicates what seems to me to be an inordinate amount of space to a discussion concerning ...

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Ming wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:05 am
According to List of fatal dog attacks in the United States (T-H-L) nobody was killed by a dog before 2005.

See column 3 in the tables for what this article is actually about.

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Jeez. Why don't they just make Wikipedia:Everything here is perfect, and anyone who says otherwise is an enemy of the people (T-H-L) a policy and be done with it?

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rnu wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 26, 2024 3:17 pm
Plot twist: Kraken makes a living writing pithy slogans and one-liners.

Headlines for the Daily Mail?

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Charlie Warzel, writing in The Atlantic : It was always going to end this way. The truth about Kate Middleton’s absence is far less funny, whimsical, or salacious than the endless memes and conspiracy theories suggested. In a video recorded and broadcast by the BBC, the princess says she has cancer,...

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Political hypocrisy Someone pulled a quote from Thomas Hobbes and then used it to coatrack their ARBPIA PoV I'm tempted to AfD that, with the rationale "A total crock of shite". No doubt that would be contested, on the basis that there's nothing in Wikipedia policy that disbars crock-of-shite artic...

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Political hypocrisy Someone pulled a quote from Thomas Hobbes and then used it to coatrack their ARBPIA PoV I'm tempted to AfD that, with the rationale "A total crock of shite". No doubt that would be contested, on the basis that there's nothing in Wikipedia policy that disbars crock-of-shite artic...

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As for the royals’ privacy, whatever happened to lèse-majéste laws? For reference the current UK law: If any person whatsoever shall, within the United Kingdom or without, compass, imagine, invent, devise, or intend to deprive or depose our Most Gracious Lady the Queen, from the style, honour, or r...

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I rather like Vigilant's idea that Crow/Kraken should have a word limit, but rather than just preventing him posting more, we should delete words at random from his earlier posts when he exceeds it. To add to the fun, we don't tell him what the limit is...

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Skimmed it. Not worth responding to. Too silly.

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Reading Kraken's rants once (or at least skimming them) is hard enough. Now he wants me to go back and read them again? Optimistic...

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Anyone else notice the glaring contradiction in Kraken's rants? One moment he's telling us how secure the monarchy is, and how the British people (or at least, the English, since Kate is only 'the future Queen of England' apparently?) are behind it 100%. Yet the next moment he's babbling on about ho...

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Sometimes it is better just to shut the fuck up. You should try it sometime.

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Kraken, why did I bring up the Daily Mail? Because I knew you'd come up with the most ridiculous crap to defend its vacuous tabloid gossip. And in doing so, show just how selective you are with your deranged rants. The Daily Mail, let's remind ourselves, has a front-page header like this: https://i....

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So, the TLDR is that it's everyone's fault except the Daily Mail? P.S. Totally not vacuous tabloid drivel. From the world's only respectable newspaper: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-13209399/From-similar-styles-bodyguard-Hollywood-pals-connections-Meghan-Markle-Kardashians-Harry-goes-sk...

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As a primarily UK topic, then per long standing Wikipedia policy, the interests and attitudes of the UK should prevail when assessing harms and weights. In the interests of fairness, I'm going to apply the same (alleged) policy to Wikipedia's coverage of North Korea, and to their biographies of the...

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Can we at least change the thread title to something less ridiculous?

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Question of the day: Will Crowken ever write something that, when read, doesn't make the reader regret choosing to read it? I dunno, watching him mansplaining to feminists how they are doing it all wrong is quite entertaining, to a bystander at least. Though it does rather make me look back to my e...

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... what they really need is a new, mostly-unrelated royal scandal and/or weird incident to push this one off the public's radar screen. This latest nonsense is an inevitable consequence of the whole slim-down-the-monarchy thing. The media needs stories to feed the royalty-obsessed. With less going...

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Kraken wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 22, 2024 3:47 am
This is all your fantasy framing.

You wrote the thread title. I didn't.

AndyTheGrump

The 'specifics of this thread' are that you started it with a ludicrous title, and ever since have been consistently trying to frame bog-standard media-frenzy and social-media-fuckwittery as if it is some sort of giant plot to overthrow the monarchy. And then make out Wikipedia's minor role in this ...

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What's absurd is you thinking there's anyone on this platform who would agree the Kate has any special power to get Wikipedia to remove a COATRACK... At no point did I even remotely suggest anything of the sort. Stop making shit up. Or find somewhere else to peddle your Deranged-of-Tunbridge-Wells ...

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engadget: Getty flags another British royal family photo for being digitally altered The princess' absence from public events since Christmas last year has, as you might have expected, spawned all kinds of conspiracy theories. It even gave rise to a whole Wikipedia article entitled "Where is Kate?"...

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Where's the shape-shifting lizards redirect? They have to be involved somehow...

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