Wikipediocracy

Eric Corbett

JZG has been admonished by arbcom at least 3 times: One Two Three and narrowly escaped a 4th: Three and a half #3 contains the finding that "Over a period of more than one year, JzG persistently directed uncivil comments and personal attacks at other editors. These comments frequently included obsc...

Eric Corbett

Yes, but we were discussing the slightly broader question of when a dialect becomes a language. Also, given the huge differences in POV between Serbs, Croats and Bosniaks, separate Wikis would be necessary even without different alphabets. Well, it hasn't been "necessary" for the huge differences b...

Eric Corbett

WanderingGuest wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:32 pm
Prahlad didn't have a very serious meltdown or anything, the OS block wasn't for anything serious, just fairly innocuous thing. He needed a break and he's taking it.

But ten years is a bit of a joke isn't it?

He'll be back in less than ten days.

Eric Corbett

It's quite possible that at least some of the people who might have such evidence are unable to provide it because of being blocked/banned. Several people (mainly Slugger O'Toole, Pudeo, Netoholic, and Rusf10) presented evidence of this during the arbitration request in June, so it's strange that t...

Eric Corbett

Aaand, it's done. Withdrawn. Not only that, he's had a meltdown and quit Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Prahlad_balaji Got himself OS blocked for the last three things he said on his talkpage as well. No surprise really. He was obviously not ready, but it's really quite difficul...

Eric Corbett

JzG currently is the subject of the second ArbCom case request about him in three months. Previous request: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case&oldid=962683413#JzG Current request: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#JzG I don...

Eric Corbett

Given that PetalBot is probably going to be your #1 visitor at first (this is the searchbot Huawei has built to replace Google and is my #1 visitor this month) , you could go with: petalocracy the pedalope the centipetal force ... Hmmm. If I were Nemo I'd concentrate on getting the site to work pro...

Eric Corbett

Nemo wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:11 pm
Your mistaken - I have a registered domain; however as of now I'm hosting the Wiki with Miraheze.

So my dilemma is to decide whether to keep the current host, or try again at hosting MediaWiki myself.

Once of us is mistaken, that's for sure.

My money is on you.

Eric Corbett

What putting these extreme requirements on admins is doing is enabling more "page movers" to perform a higher percentage of page moves by the technically inferior "round robin" method; that doesn't make the encyclopedia better. A understanding of the basics is hardly an "extreme requirement". If so...

Eric Corbett

No Ledge wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:56 pm
What putting these extreme requirements on admins is doing is enabling more "page movers" to perform a higher percentage of page moves by the technically inferior "round robin" method; that doesn't make the encyclopedia better.

A understanding of the basics is hardly an "extreme requirement".

Eric Corbett

Poetlister wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:24 pm

C&B wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:12 pm
Jackmcbarn is an idiot, but if he passes this rfa, it will so far be at a better percentage rate than his first
I don't know Jackmcbarn well enough to comment, but I'm not aware that being an idiot is any impediment to becoming an admin.

No more than it is to becoming an editor.

Eric Corbett

When you do buy the domain, try to make it memorable, shortish, and get the .org and .com domains. I'd say the most important domain to get for a putative encyclopedia would be .info I have a sneaking suspicion that you own, or at least have some relationship with, engole.info. If you do, a suggest...

Eric Corbett

There are many lists of existing wikis, e.g. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Sites_using_MediaWiki/en,Sites using MediaWiki https://www.lifewire.com/wiki-list-by-category-3486723,A List of Wiki Sites by Category https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Gazetteer_of_wikis,Miraheze https://wikiapiary.com/wiki/M...

Eric Corbett

There are many lists of existing wikis, e.g. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Sites_using_MediaWiki/en,Sites using MediaWiki https://www.lifewire.com/wiki-list-by-category-3486723,A List of Wiki Sites by Category https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Gazetteer_of_wikis,Miraheze https://wikiapiary.com/wiki/M...

Eric Corbett

Zoloft wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:00 pm
When you do buy the domain, try to make it memorable, shortish, and get the .org and .com domains.

I'd say the most important domain to get for a putative encyclopedia would be .info

Eric Corbett

Ming wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:49 pm
.... and immediately there is a WP:AN issue because people are changing every instance of "Kiev" to "Kyiv", even in Chicken Kiev (T-H-L).

It helps to keep the kids occupied and off the streets though.

Eric Corbett

Basically, you need something that immediately conveys what the site is about and suggests that the site is good. Omnipedia is Omni- (all) plus -pedia (encyclopaedia), so I think it covers both angles. You also need a domain name that isn't already registered. Omnipedia.com, omnipedia.net and omnip...

Eric Corbett

I'm curious, what are the main objections to Encyclosphere's model? Well, for one thing it's not clear, to me at least, what Encyclosphere's model actually is, apart from some overblown rhetoric about an imaginary Knowledge Standards Foundation. But you need to be focusing on what your own aims are...

Eric Corbett

I'm unsure how much having "wiki" in the title affects SEO results. Not in the slightest. In which case, maybe it's best avoided so people realise that you're different from Wikipedia. As I said, it makes no difference to search results, but my view is that Wikipedia has made the "wiki" label damag...

Eric Corbett

I'm unsure how much having "wiki" in the title affects SEO results. Not in the slightest. In which case, maybe it's best avoided so people realise that you're different from Wikipedia. As I said, it makes no difference to search results, but my view is that Wikipedia has made the "wiki" label damag...

Eric Corbett

Nemo wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:20 pm
I'm unsure how much having "wiki" in the title affects SEO results.

Not in the slightest.

Eric Corbett

Mojito wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:16 am
Nemo: good on you for having a crack. I hope it works out.

Best ignore those who frequently whinge about the failings of Wikipedia yet also just want to poke holes in someone's efforts to create an alternative.

When did you redefine making suggestions as "poking holes"?

Eric Corbett

Callipedia's got a nice story, but it's probably too many syllables for the masses unfortunately. Wikipolis works better in that regard. Comperio? Unipedia? You don't seem to understand what a syllable is. Callipedia has exactly the same number of syllables as Wikipedis, and people don't seem to ha...

Eric Corbett

If you're planning to build a less toxic version of Wikipedia, preemptively ban Eric Corbett, his sympathizers and generally anyone who resembles Eric Corbett in any way. Indeed, Eric Corbett is the personification of incivility and toxicity. That might be argued by some to be a good starting point...

Eric Corbett

I'm gobsmacked! Possibly the only thing we have in common is a love for the English language and clarity in how it's used. Quite possibly. To me, using terms like "transphobe" or whatever is a ruse to disguise what's actually happening, which is bigotry. Let's call it out for what it is. Nobody is ...

Eric Corbett

I'm gobsmacked! Possibly the only thing we have in common is a love for the English language and clarity in how it's used. Quite possibly. To me, using terms like "transphobe" or whatever is a ruse to disguise what's actually happening, which is bigotry. Let's call it out for what it is. Nobody is ...

Eric Corbett

I'm gobsmacked!

Eric Corbett

Vigilant wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:48 pm
Why does this conversation remind me of off-wiki with different players?

I guess only you can answer that question.

Eric Corbett

Nemo wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:59 pm
If "not allowing pedophiles" is "PC" then I really don't give a crap.

When did I mention pedophiles?

I suggest you rein in your neck, before it's reined in for you.

Eric Corbett

My plan isn't to stop at being a mirror of Wikipedia; the first step is simply deciding what content to import; the next step will be figuring out ways to branch out and differentiate our content from Wikipedia's. I would suggest that your plan ought to start with what kind of site you're intending...

Eric Corbett

(You know that TERF stands for "trans-exclusionary radical feminist", right?) Yes, and by definition anyone branded as a TERF is being accused of discriminating against transsexuals and in some cases threatened with legal action. If someone discriminated against gay people, would you call them gay-...

Eric Corbett

Why do think you very rarely, if ever, see Everipedia, or Citizendium, or WikiWand or other of these forks on the first page? i'm honestly not sure; I plan on having the site optimized specifically for SEO. Lots of sites are no doubt also optimised. I guess Everipedia is too. Will that be enough to...

Eric Corbett

I don't think I understand this ...phobe thing at all. People are afraid of all sorts of things, but we don't legislate against clowns, for instance, because of coulrophobia, although it's worth thinking about. And the worry of men identifying as women using a female public toilet, or vice versa, is...

Eric Corbett

Poetlister wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:07 pm
Setting up such a system would require suitable software. Is Mediawiki up to it? If not, what alternatives are available?

But this really needs its own thread.

As I suggested, WordPress for one.

But I realise we're digressing, so I'll move on.

Eric Corbett

So your aim is to be a "safe-space" version of Wikipedia? As much as Encyclopedia Britannica is, I suppose. If that is indeed your aim, how do you plan to outdo Wikipedia with your SEO? I won't necessarily need to "outdo" them - if I can land hits on the first page of search engines, I would consid...

Eric Corbett

You can also import articles from the Dictionary of National Biography on Wikisource. You're having a laugh aren't you? A source that's 120 years old? By definition, it will only cover people who have been dead longer than that. It might still be useful at least as a starting point. After all, load...

Eric Corbett

The way forwards is seamlessly affiliated sites, not the same old same old centralisation, or each fork copying the same old Wikipedia crap. Could the Wikia/Fandom model be a guide? Not Fandom itself, of course. There must be large topic areas not covered, and much of the content that exists is tot...

Eric Corbett

Catagories is another form of diarriah you can find on wikipedia. First they are badly set up so it hard to make sanse of what is in that particular catagroy thats why I would prefer a list article instead. (specially if it use a table) also many catagories are dublicate of one another. So shorting...

Eric Corbett

I notice a question on Sucks asking what's in it for editors to join your project, to which you have yet to respond. So what is in it for editors? Everipedia, scam though it was, offered the chance to become a millionaire. If you mean financial compensation, I'm not in a position to offer that now....

Eric Corbett

Poetlister wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:18 pm
You can also import articles from the Dictionary of National Biography on Wikisource.

You're having a laugh aren't you?

A source that's 120 years old?

Eric Corbett

Honestly, I hope he does get somewhere with this "encyclosphere" thing, but the fact is, this is not a new idea, even for him. Various people, including many of us here, have been advocating a decentralized model of affiliated reference sites for well over a dozen years now. But until Google stops ...

Eric Corbett

Ben Norton and Max Blumenthal dug it up in June this year after The Grayzone was blacklisted on wikipedia . There was discussion about this in another thread: The Grayzone "deprecated" as a Wikipedia source: Why? Yes, it's clearly a left-wing site and into conspiracy theories, which fits in with th...

Eric Corbett

I notice a question on Sucks asking what's in it for editors to join your project, to which you have yet to respond.

So what is in it for editors? Everipedia, scam though it was, offered the chance to become a millionaire.

Eric Corbett

To me, the Callipedia site appears to be a shambolic mess, so not worth commenting on. Can you be more specific? The "tidying" up process is underway; excessive red links, and broken template/image/categories/etc will be removed. But Callipedia does seem a bit rudderless. Quite recently Nemo said i...

Eric Corbett

Sorry, post deleted. To me, the Callipedia site appears to be a shambolic mess, so not worth commenting on. That's a bit harsh. It's still under development. You wouldn't say that a house in its early stages of being built isn't worth commenting on. Wouldn't you? Wikipedia's Visual Editor has been ...

Eric Corbett

By no means every GA is a good article. With featured articles, even if they are good when they are awarded that status, they are always heavily edited while they are featured, and this does not necessarily improve them. And of course they might deteriorate after they are featured. Thus I suggest g...

Eric Corbett

Apparently this is a whole thing now, from what I'm reading the problem is promotional materials released by Netflix without consulting the director. People felt those materials were too sexual in their portrayal of the girls in question and therefore that the entire film is porn. The film was not ...

Eric Corbett

Vigilant wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:43 pm
He obviously needs time to view and tape the show.

I'm sure he's been a great advert for it,

Eric Corbett

It's not an impossible goal, just one not yet possible. Universal translators may be just around the corner. But the fundamental question is surely what is the purpose of these different language Wikipedias. If it's to share knowledge in different languages, then the WMF ought to be investing heavil...

Eric Corbett

Indeed, any article imported from Wikipedia should be subjected to checks. Even a freshly minted FA might have serious defects. Didn't we have a thread about that? I have no doubt at all that I could find fault with the vast majority of Wikipedia articles, even FAs, often serious ones. The reviewin...

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