Wikipediocracy

The Wife

I'm not going to name any. I don't want to appear to have any backstory or grudge. I'm asking if anyone here has wondered during interactions with any Wikipedians with authority if that Wikipedian with authority might be less intelligent than whoever posting in this thread believes he or she may be....

The Wife

In recent days I had to step outside a computer model and use a calculator and paper (I did carefully move this to a spreadsheet). Having to use http://www.physics.uoguelph.ca/tutorials/sig_fig/SIG_dig.htm,significant digits and http://www.chem.tamu.edu/class/fyp/mathrev/mr-scnot.html,scientific no...

The Wife

? (I mean, I get that it should be .114, but I don't get this particular objection about "significant figures") I think I have to repeat myself: ? I believe this is also a concept called "significant digits." It's used in math and science. If something is not a significant digit then it should not ...

The Wife

? (I mean, I get that it should be .114, but I don't get this particular objection about "significant figures") I think I have to repeat myself: ? I believe this is also a concept called "significant digits." It's used in math and science. If something is not a significant digit then it should not ...

The Wife

cyofee wrote:He signed his name as VolodyA! V Anarhist.

I see the resemblance now. His sig was different than his user name.

Thanks.

The Wife

And Wikipedia has two things in common with absolutely every other gathering of people anywhere on the earth at any time in human history or prehistory: 6. "Behave the way other people want you to behave, and change your nature to suit their tastes, or you're not welcome." 7. "Obey the little marti...

The Wife

Peter Cohen mentioned on SilkTork's talk page that a von Gloeden photograph was the lead image of the Wikipedia article on Pederasty . It seemed an odd choice for a lead image, but it has been there for three months, with little recent controversy (there were edit wars over it in the past). Its ins...

The Wife

Randy from Boise wrote:
EricBarbour wrote:[
... There are always more cult members than anti-cult members...
Care to share any empirical data on that one???

RfB

I took it to mean that at a Wicnic there are more people who are happy to participate in Wikipedia (cult) than there are people who oppose Wikipedia (anti-cult).

The Wife

It seems that there will be a Wikipedia picnic on June 23rd in various places. For example, in Pittsburgh : Schenley Plaza, 4100 Forbes Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA (the green next to the Cathedral of Learning, between Hillman Library and the Carnegie Library) Should there be a Wikipediocrary presence at...

The Wife

It seems that there will be a Wikipedia picnic on June 23rd in various places. For example, in Pittsburgh : Schenley Plaza, 4100 Forbes Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA (the green next to the Cathedral of Learning, between Hillman Library and the Carnegie Library) Should there be a Wikipediocrary presence at...

The Wife

As an aging punk rocker in my early 50's, maybe I can enlighten y'all just a little bit. "Punk ain't no religious cult / Punk means thinking for yourself" --Jello Biafra Scientology falls a wee bit short on the "punk enough for me" scale. RfB I'm cool with that, as an early 50s skeptic, just as lon...

The Wife

Ponyo looks like a classic abusive patroller to me. Ponyo flies off the handle but is open to conciliation (as opposed to mere obedience, which is the only thing some Wikipedia authorities will accept). He can be reasoned with and doesn't appear to hold grudges. EDIT: I thought he specifically said...

The Wife

My days as a member of Wikipedia appear to be permanently over. We all have to live with the consequences of our actions. Just be glad. You don't want to be there. It's not a healthy place. If you had not run into problems in this area you would have somewhere else because of the way WP operates. F...

The Wife

As an aging punk rocker in my early 50's, maybe I can enlighten y'all just a little bit. "Punk ain't no religious cult / Punk means thinking for yourself" --Jello Biafra Scientology falls a wee bit short on the "punk enough for me" scale. RfB If you actually live in Idaho and are punk, that's unusu...

The Wife

So does Pine serve a special function? I've seen that he hobnobs with the right people and now he's asking the candidates questions.

The Wife

I wonder their total word count for all pages is combined. The two of them put together have to dwarf the rest of the contributors combined. While Wnt is sticking it out out of sheer tenacity, like a poodle locked on to a chew toy, I think PrioryMan pretty much gave up the fight after Ashley resign...

The Wife

Vigilant wrote:He should get added to the case along with prioryman.

But the other side scored that goal of tarring more people first. Axiomatically, all members of the side who first scored are now all immune. Unless... it's a full moon on a third Tuesday. Those are the rules.

The Wife

Guyovski wrote:My complaint to the ADL was premature. I now regret it. Re-reading comments made in threads of this forum has led to that conclusion. I should have seen whether the matter could have been handled internally first.

It takes a lot to say I was wrong. I respect you for saying it.

The Wife

thekohser wrote:
The Wife wrote:If you join, consider only posting one time per day.

(Sorry, I couldn't resist that one. Carry on!)

Am i mis-remembering or did you at one point think you might have possibly been terse?

The Wife

Boundaries, dude, boundaries. Non capisce, but interested in what it means. Inviting you to explain. Usually if someone was briefly part of a cult they don't disclose it to strangers the first day they join a forum. It is your right to share that information, but it's usually considered a very priv...

The Wife

On the other hand what I was getting at, in part, in my post was that the only feasible way to actually affect change (whether that be blocking or banning a Wikipedian, or some social change, etc.) is from within. Externally, the platform you'd need is huge. Well, my observation from experience is ...

The Wife

Academics need to create specialist sites. Preferably using an NC license to thwart WPs blatant stealing, whilst allowing access and reuse by the civilised world. http://eol.org/ http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/ I would recommend that PD do the same. Wasn't Citizendium an attempt to have a...

The Wife

I remember someone, probably Eric, posting that thread at Wikipediocracy in the last few days. I read it then and read parts to In the Gulag . I haven't gone back to read posts since then. We were shocked by the ridiculous responses. Had some of the posters been spurious, it would have been understa...

The Wife

The Garbage Scow wrote:The only real-world consequences for Wiki is if you run afoul of some OCD lunatic who stalks you until they discover your personal details, and then use said details to stalk you in RL. Which happens all too often, sad to say. Speaking of which, another thing I fucking hate Wikipedia for.

Amen

The Wife

However, everybody who's interested in these things knows that this model has been "on sale" for years...The photo serves to prove that AvH actually bought these on sale , which is sort defeating the whole purpose of the exercise... I think you're right. I wonder if they were sold out of other styl...

The Wife

I wouldn't even call him "weird". He's an aging punk-rocker who thinks he's still "cool" and "relevant", and has never heard of "midlife crisis". Witness his hatred of copyright and anger at Scientology; David doesn't think the social rules apply to him, but (of course) they can be used as cudgels ...

The Wife

[...] how can someone abuse their tools like that and then go on working happily behind the scenes? Not that a lot of the stuff there wasn't funny but still... there's just something about hypocrites that I really hate. And en-wiki is loaded to the brim with hypocrites. There must be a backstory. I...

The Wife

... if my hunch is correct, I'll go ahead and invite her. And I'll invite her here at the same time. Yes, please do, if you can find a way to contact her. Email is unworkable, as she's been getting hate mail for years. Her blog has a contact form: http://www.feministfrequency.com/contact/ Thanks. I...

The Wife

I totally get that. It seems to me that if the editor in question were trying to cover up the denier's denying, he'd have hit the guy's actual page too, instead of focusing on the 2012 deaths page. It seems to me to be more a case of OCD and parochialism. It doesn't help anyone's cause to tag cluel...

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I don't disagree that he was an anti-semite. I don't disagree that the 2012 deaths page should call him a holocaust denier. All I'm thinking is that the guy who edited that out here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Deaths_in_2012&diff=497968251&oldid=497961080 is a regular contributor to ...

The Wife

I agree wholeheartedly with Guyovski. I also don't want to edit WP because it's been a haven for a pedophile and it tolerates and sometimes encourages bigotry like anti-semitism or bigotry against other targeted minorities. What was the actual anti-semitism here? I couldn't parse it from the linked...

The Wife

If I follow, an editor changed the lede from "was a philosopher, author, and Holocaust denier" to "was a philosopher and author" and another editor then reported him to the Anti-Defamation League for antisemitic "vandalism and harassment." And furthermore, the editor is accused of Holocaust denial ...

The Wife

Yeh, that's a rather extreme view... and I don't think it's really supported in the spirit of the policy. On the other hand in this specific case one editor lost an argument and his response was to twist an (apparently) innocent comment and report another editor to the ADL. What a prat. I have no i...

The Wife

Splitting this off from here: http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=484&p=9132#p9132 since it's not really a nice thing. How about this diff: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&diff=498307735&oldid=498307553 ::::Guyovski, Wikipedia does n...

The Wife

This is going to be used in a class. It illustrates the point succinctly with beautiful prose. Thanks. Edited to add: I may donate to the charity mentioned at the bottom of the article. Goodness knows many musicians need it. I'm not aware of a pension plan or nursing home for elderly or disabled mus...

The Wife

Dennis also explains what the truth is. Somehow in his truth he is "universally considered a civil person." This is dependent on the particular universe being considered. For his, I am sure it rings true. You should check out how his avoidance of responsibility for his remarks has turned out for hi...

The Wife

Would you prefer to find out what he's been up to after he has succeeded? If 'what he's been up to' was something of significance and harm to the project... I don't know what your cut-off level of significance or harm to the project is. The way I understand it being a bureaucrat or a WMF employee a...

The Wife

This will be enlightening. I hope someone reports the event here.

Thanks.

The Wife

Today I would like to mention LedRush. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:LedRush He or she seems like a smart, sane, reasonable person who tries to do good work on WP. He or she will mention his or her feelings without going overboard. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tryptof...

The Wife

Its clear you have a massive grudge against him after that incident with the SPI, perhaps you should get over it. If the best you can do is the above it just makes you look unhealthily obsessed. He's announced he's looking to become a member of ArbCom, a bureaucrat, or WMF employee. It's likely he ...

The Wife

That little snot is bot-editing the Polish Wikipedia, and he doesn't even speak the language. Marvelous. (As far as I can tell anyway. You be the judge .) I've actually been seeing more and more that, some gnomes simply can't stop grinding every part of the database. They don't know what they are d...

The Wife

Its clear you have a massive grudge against him after that incident with the SPI, perhaps you should get over it. If the best you can do is the above it just makes you look unhealthily obsessed. He's announced he's looking to become a member of ArbCom, a bureaucrat, or WMF employee. It's likely he ...

The Wife

Ihardlythinkso call Dennis Brown out on his talk page for being full of himself. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dennis_Brown#.22Fear_of_honesty.22 Dennis responded by doing something I've seen him do before. He claimed he didn't experience an emotional reaction but rather his accuser imagine...

The Wife

And on the very first day, he set up the STiki patrolling bot and started grinding Recent Changes. ( Badly. ) Just another (admin-angling sock of a) pissed-off teenaged boy. Maybe another Claritas sock. I'll have a look. What's the story with that fellow? He's being quite the schmuck over at Common...

The Wife

So, fuck the people who live in a country where basic knowledge and honesty is illegal? Where they claim "reliable sources" according to the majority of the world are evil CIA propaganda distributed by rebels? I think I agree with you. Can you detail one specific instance? That might help convince ...

The Wife

I support, for example, technical means and mechanisms to protect the identity of correspondents from truly repressive regimes in Iran, China, or elsewhere, justifiably fearful or the repercussions of their speech. However, these people shouldn't be editing Wikipedia . Whatever they have to say tha...

The Wife

As far as I know, neither Benjamin Franklin nor James Madison ever wrote a treatise on how vegetable shortening is a popular lubricant for anal fisting, as was once done on Wikipedia by an editor seeking to remain pseudonymous, so please spare us that tired justification, okay? To be fair, I can to...

The Wife

Sexual assault and domestic violence hotlines and advocacy offices definitely offer anonymity. Anonymous tips to the police are often helpful. I'd embrace the moderate approach to internet anonymity. I'd also be happy to call the parents of teenagers who are out of line on the internet. I know I'd w...

The Wife

Youse guys ain't the Wallendas. Pants are in this case a metaphor. It is appropriate that society sanctions people who break the rules. The metaphor is: Sockpuppeting is like a male soccer player contravening rules that state he may not show his underwear with advertisements on it during a match. H...

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There has been some discussion of Anita Sarkeesian on the Gendergap list http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/gendergap/2012-June/date.html (the threads are Nastiness, positive action Re: Nastiness, On Ms. Sarkeesian - tropes - and notability) I suggested yesterday that the Gendergap moderators inv...

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