Wikipediocracy

BrillLyle

Maryana Iskander's LinkedIn profile says: Associate McKinsey & Company Dates Employed: 1999 – 2000 Employment Duration: 1 yr Location: Houston, Texas Area Associate is one step above 'intern.' The McKinsey job straight out of college is the first stepping stone for the well heeled. The Associate pr...

BrillLyle

I'm not a warrior of any kind, but surely the CEO doesn't need to themselves be competent at every vital task in the organization. There’s understanding how the garbage system works and then there’s expertise in how large complex toxic volunteer communities - and the shite umbrella nonprofit system...

BrillLyle

Poetlister wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:35 pm
A listening tour. Excellent. Can we be included?

Wouldn’t THAT be something.

I feel like even minimum engagement with this group would be very helpful to her. She should reach out here and offer to have at least one session with Wikipediocracy.

BrillLyle

That harkens back to the notion that one of the biggest barriers to Wikipedia recruitment is "the feeling of inadequacy." In other words, most people, being less narcissistic and power-hungry than the sort Wikipedia usually gets, don't think they have sufficient talent or education to write quality...

BrillLyle

Vigilant wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:48 pm
That's a rather long winded way of saying "diversity hire".

How else can this comment be taken except as sexist and awful?

Hiring a woman is not the issue.

Please do better. Shit like this is enraging. Unacceptable.

BrillLyle

Actually, she should have two accounts, only one of which is disclosed. This is a GREAT idea. I would love to mentor her on editing methodologies. On contributing to existing pages and getting her edit count up to the point where she could try to create a page. And show her Wikidata and Wikimedia C...

BrillLyle

I have multiple concerns about this new CEO. McKinsey is a very bad thing. Most importantly: I don’t see established expertise in dealing with difficult communities or in problem-solving bloated ineffective non-profits. She has no experience in knowledge information. She is also a non-practicing law...

BrillLyle

Oh my goodness. I am SO happy Maher is leaving. It’s beyond time.

Yay!

BrillLyle

This thread is exhausting. I am glad the misogyny was called out. As far as Jess Wade’s entries go, as a sock I used to follow her entries and would try to clean up and add to them - as she does make some of the same edits consistently. Her work triggers my OCD in terms of citations and sourcing. Pe...

BrillLyle

This often shocked me, that there were people who didn’t want Wikipedia entries. I made at least 2 where when I let their management know they were like thanks but they don’t want one. Can you take it down? Presumably they were people with a low opinion of Wikipedia (such as of course many people h...

BrillLyle

I suppose the thinking is that it will get a lot more publicity via Wikipedia. How many people look at WHO web sites? I watch the WhO regular COVID press briefings. Usually via Twitter but sometimes on their website. I am a fan of WHO. They have a minuscule budget and are a convenient punching bag ...

BrillLyle

This often shocked me, that there were people who didn’t want Wikipedia entries. I made at least 2 where when I let their management know they were like thanks but they don’t want one. Can you take it down?

BrillLyle

I replied on Twitter with what seems to be the same things journalists done get about Wikipedia. No mention of Wikidata either, where there’s less barriers to entry to create an entry on someone.

https://twitter.com/harrisonstephen/sta ... 38850?s=21

BrillLyle

We've long maintained that Wikipedia is to some extent a social site. This is just another manifestation of that. The opportunities for Wikipedia and its sister projects to be a social site is poorly realized in its current and historical form. I think social elements could be quite helpful and fru...

BrillLyle

So saw this on Twitter - a new moderated blog. Linked to Wiki login. Ugggggh. --- from: https://twitter.com/Wikimedia/status/1283479706843717632 Welcome to Diff, a new blog by and for Wikimedians! It is a place to connect with other volunteers, share your latest news, and get inspired. Check it out,...

BrillLyle

Just draft it yourself and submit it through AFC . Might take a while but it's free. AfC is where good draft articles go to die. It will most likely either not get reviewed, or it will get rejected. I think the current "success" rate through AfC is about 20% (if you define success as a published Wi...

BrillLyle

Quite laughable, really, when one of the more toxic initiatives - especially the leadership of A+F - is putting this forward. Ironic also that when I was WMF global banned, the argument was that I violated friendly space policy. Dumb me for not documenting all of the toxic awful behavior against me....

BrillLyle

Saw this on Twitter: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1H9SLsJlhW2Xgv-r8rHjByela6YwAhKSj/view Art+Feminism Community Information Sheet - WMF Universal Code of Conduct process review June 5, 2020 The Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) is aiming to create an opt-in Universal Code of Conduct (UCC). Art+Feminism ...

BrillLyle

Part of the problem is that the concept of 'calling' data from a remote location (whether it be a template page elsewhere on Wikipedia, or simply transcluding a page elsewhere on Wikipedia, or using a magic word, or calling the data from Wikidata, or using an image from Commons) is not as intuitive...

BrillLyle

Wikidata is useful as a way of integrating and organising large databases across many Wikipedias, and as its own independent database. The *massive* downside is the potential it has to confuse and discourage human editors, who are a precious resource in their own right. Wikipedia and other parts of...

BrillLyle

It is completely insane that we are recreating the wheel constantly due to a bad decision to organize different language Wikipedias as separate entities. Wikidata is a great solution to a lot of the fact based data that is on a Wikipedia page. I see Wikidata as a scaffolding upon which you can estab...

BrillLyle

That's just it, you are telling people what to do. You should stick to explaining how what they were doing, was violating policy. There is no policy that says don't concentrate on deletion, there are only policies that say how to do it. It's got to be pretty insulting to those who do it properly, t...

BrillLyle

I personally think blanking those pages tends to just lead to a lot of useless drama. People revert war over banned tags and/or blanking, maybe someone gets blocked, at the end of the day nothing important has changed but a lot of people got upset anyway. But if I remember correctly in your case yo...

BrillLyle

Well, to be fair, if you haven't got access to quality sources or the hours available to seriously improve the shorter articles, the fastest and most effective way you can improve Wikipedia, is to get rid of all the shite. The internecine warfare between editors who concern themselves with telling ...

BrillLyle

Agree. It's a non-answer. The safe route. Katherine Maher has never made an effort to exert herself outside her comfort zone of press-friendly soundbite filled presentations and comments -- and the omnipresent ad nauseam fundraising. There were times when the NYC chapter was imploding, when her guid...

BrillLyle

It's worth noting this entire process saw only 16 edits by the accused, and that includes trivial ones. While it is an effective strategy at ArbCom to hold your tongue and make sure when you do speak, you are concise and are adding value, this really wasn't what he did. While the Jyt Dawg was a pro...

BrillLyle

Maher on Twitter today, when asked about my WMF global ban: https://twitter.com/krmaher/status/1249839101915697152 Our Trust & Safety policies are continuously reviewed for best practices. We take bans very seriously and utilize them only judiciously, often after prior warning. We do not discuss spe...

BrillLyle

If my User page is blanked, then JYTDAwg's should be too. Very interesting that Arbcom finally did something like this. I am flabbergasted and shocked. I didn't think they had the gumption quite frankly. Good riddance. He was truly awful -- and negatively impacted so many editors, especially newbies.

BrillLyle

And the unpleasant A+F folks posted this on Twitter. https://twitter.com/artandfeminism/status/1236039703247441921?s=21 “With hundreds of Edit-a-thons scheduled, we advise to follow guidance provided by @WHO and @cdcgov. ⁣We encourage attendees not to touch another person’s device at Edit-a-thons an...

BrillLyle

https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2020/03/06/wikimedia-foundation-will-close-san-francisco-office-and-encourage-remote-work-for-march-2020-amidst-covid-19-concerns/ “In addition, we have been in touch with members of the Wikimedia movement community with respect to upcoming events and are taking ...

BrillLyle

So I had been working on this cross Wikidata to Wikipedia (and vice versa) project a while back before I was banned.* I had made a bunch of mistakes that resulted in constraint violations. So even though I was SanFran global banned, I really wanted to fix those errors -- and also possibly try to con...

BrillLyle

So it's one of those thug friend things, then, where they follow each other and decimate content as a group activity? That's even better. #Not Well, you kinda have to admit that "deletionist" is a term that's usually defined by people who don't like deletionists. Back in the old days, the vast majo...

BrillLyle

ShinkawaGirl wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 21, 2019 6:58 pm
99% OF THE DELETIONS WERE NOMINATED OR TAGGED BY OTHERS.

Not quite sure why you're yelling about it.... :-)

So it's one of those thug friend things, then, where they follow each other and decimate content as a group activity? That's even better. #Not

BrillLyle

This type of empty content nested in a shiny patois reminds me of this McKinsey presentation I once saw when I worked as a word processor at an investment bank. It was so sparkly and slick, but when it was looked at with a critical eye for facts and content, well, its reason for being evaporated int...

BrillLyle

Please remember to view any specific admin action of mine in the light of the total number of my actions. Surely I am allowed to make a few "mistakes"? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:28, 19 December 2019 (UTC) RHaworth has done over 500000 or half a Million deletions that is 505347 deletions to be...

BrillLyle

el84 wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 21, 2019 11:32 am
Meh, not worth it unless they can get control of the WMOffice account to SanFranBan some people without recourse.

Heh. Laughing here.... Good one!

BrillLyle

Wow. That is VERY detailed. I almost fell asleep in parts, but that means it truly reflects the web of Wikipedia editing.

Thanks for posting this!

- Erika

BrillLyle

I like the idea that there is discussion from the point of providing that newbies get help and learn versus get aggressively punished like this. It was / is one of my biggest pet peeves about editing with regards to new people. They don't understand WIKI:Rulez, and most of the time, the pushback and...

BrillLyle

[3] https://medium.com/a-funding-utopia/funding-utopia-when-youre-already-a-free-knowledge-utopia-8da9d8f12c3c Oh good. Publishing a white paper (?) on another quick publish self publishing platform. Way to go!!! It never ceases to amaze me that it is seen as a positive to work on things like this ...

BrillLyle

According to The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language , fourth edition (2000), It is widely recognized that the attributive use of the noun Jew, in phrases such as Jew lawyer or Jew ethics, is both vulgar and highly offensive. I wasn't meaning to infer anything by saying Newyorkbrad...

BrillLyle

I'm definitely a Frank Turner fan.

This made me smile.

He's pretty damn funny. And smart. Frank just sort of gets things that are absurd, and the whole Wikipedia thing.

Enjoyable.

BrillLyle

Any committee with New York Brad is apt to be better than any committee without him. t Please explain that. Newyorkbrad is an officious, startlingly ineffective person from my experience with him on WM NYC, especially when he was on the board and didn't bother to show up for anything. He's a New Yo...

BrillLyle

Vigilant wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:33 am
You should take a trip through rural Romania.

Is it bad? I assume it is. :-(

BrillLyle

OVERABUNDANCE OF CITATIONS I don't think I'm wrong about having to have an overabundance of citations to stave off the AfDs and notability issues. I haven't done a ton of non-BLP work, but a lot of the cultural institutions that WM NYC did partnership outreach events with from mid-2015 to when I wa...

BrillLyle

I know this is possibly well-intentioned, but the task list skeeved me out. There has to be other options that are less awful, right? It seems like advocacy organizations could use the effort versus terms of trafficking. Blech. On this theme, I was hoping to work on pages about the massive detention...

BrillLyle

Earthy Astringent wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:00 am
And Brille, for fucks sake, start socking.

BrillLyle

WTH does this mean? (from Tony's talk page)

There's little to keep me here now. Being here makes me mentally ill. Tony (talk) 23:21, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

BrillLyle

As for the persecution complex, that's pretty much normal for women these days — it would probably be normal for women throughout human history if Twitter and Instagram had always existed. Right-wingers and American college football fans are just as bad, if not worse. I take exception to this. I do...

BrillLyle

Here's the meat of the article: The new yearlong project, https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki4YearOfSound2020,Wiki4YearOfSound2020 , is a collaboration between ASA, the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health, and other groups. Because Wikipedia is written by the public, during Wiki4...

BrillLyle

Let's add Jess Wade's original tweet here for posterity. And an archive . Thanks for posting this, as like a right ijit I hadn't seen this (and more importantly the responses) on Twitter. Bossy McBossy-Pants over here, but you might want to expand all the replies before Archiving for a more complet...

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