Wikipediocracy

orangepi

The Constitutional Pentumvirate of Kaz is an American Micronation located in New York City themed around cats. When it is created by an Single-Purpose Account, and nominated for deletion within an hour, I don't think it counts here? Instead, take ... (clicks "Random" button 3 times) Motovespa , a c...

orangepi

And that is precisely why an Administrator can safely delete this article, citing WP:BLP. Weighing up the benefit to Wikipedia of keeping it compared to the potential distress caused to any relatives, is an easy calculation to make. Easy. It only requires one of Wikipedia's increasingly dwindling r...

orangepi

"Wikipedia: not writing articles about people before the secondary sources do"?

orangepi

https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/npr-ce ... anization/

Ms. Maher's social media is in the news, again. The discussions are largely by people who neither know nor care that she had nothing to do with any content on enwiki.

orangepi

DYK ... ... that 1 + 1 = 1, according to some forms of non-Diophantine arithmetic ? Also according to Bargain (song) , by The Who. Whether or not you already knew that, I certainly hope you don't want to know more about this. This is another victory for the "the DYK hook must be the absolute stupid...

orangepi

List of Five grains in world culture How has this word-salad persisted for 13 years? Five grains, traditional set phrase for lists or groupings which may contain non-grain crops.[citation needed] Particular instances of Five grains of a single crop or other substance such as minerals and metals hav...

orangepi

Randy from Boise wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:14 pm

orangepi wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:27 pm
Wikipedia will be replaced by LLMs before I have time to come back.
Not even a fucking clue...

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"Large Language Models" - previously at viewtopic.php?f=8&t=13345

orangepi

Would it help with the "standing" concerns if I filed the complaint? For the avoidance of doubt: it isn't me, and I'm not volunteering. Wikipedia will be replaced by LLMs before I have time to come back. And Netanyahu is a butcher; I don't want to even look like I am on his side. But there is a case...

orangepi

"I've long wondered how to do my job, but never bothered to ask." :facepalm: Edit: diff of Barkeeps comment My take on Barkeep's comment is "A few editors are trying to impose a standard on arbs that is stupid and probably impossible to meet; I'm going to stand back and let them demonstrate that to...

orangepi

I have dealt with LDS-related groups making ridiculous claims about the "historicity" of the Book of Mormon on the internet before, in a non-Wikipedia context. It is an experience I have no desire to repeat. It is one of those arguments where it turns out not to matter what is said; you are both los...

orangepi

from Janesville, Iowa : Janesville was founded in 1849 by John T. Barrick, a Quaker and abolitionist who had relocated to Iowa from Ohio. According to the book, "The Janesvillians, Volumes I and II" by Maxine Leonard, John T. Barrick built the first mill and frame house in the area. He platted the t...

orangepi

https://ibis.wiki/article/Announcing_Ibis,_the_federated_Wikipedia_Alternative@ibis.wiki , dated 13-FEB-2024 Wikipedia is the most popular online encyclopedia, and millions of people rely on it every day to provide trustworthy information on a wide variety of topics. It is not well known but there ...

orangepi

There are now 28 open proposals, and 7 "failed" proposals.

Meanwhile, on the talk page, North8000 (T-C-L) complains that this process "discourages making proposals".

orangepi

Ming wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:03 pm
Winning streak (T-H-L)

This will be chapter two in my (hopefully-never-forthcoming) book on Wikipedia Is Dead.

"Crap" sums it up. Virtually none of this is of any importance, and most of it is unsourced. So, of course, the usual suspects are defending it at AFD.

orangepi

If I "zoom out" it gets worse. What the heck is Xiang Jing ? Xiang Jing (Chinese: 象经) is a book about a Chinese board game. Xiang Jing was written in 569 CE by Emperor Wu of Northern Zhou, who was a great fan of race games. No additional content, nor any sourcing, is given. The zhwiki article sugges...

orangepi

I stopped watching chess content on Youtube, so the algorithm eventually started recommending backgammon content instead. I was utterly unsurprised to discover that Wikipedia's backgammon articles are worse than its chess articles. Neurogammon and Hypergammon are particularly bad. And I suspect Marc...

orangepi

There are now 12 open proposals, and two closed proposals.

Other than one incredibly bad proposal from BilledMammal, none of them seem obviously bad? But several do seem to be of the "by throwing out more choices, it is more likely none of them will pass" variety.

orangepi

One of these is the lead section of Cheese . For the other one, I asked GPT4 to read the lead sections of the articles in Spanish, French, Korean, and German, and then write an English translation. Which is which? Cheese is a dairy product derived from milk that is produced in a wide range of flavor...

orangepi

https://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/49ers-brock-purdy-wikipedia-war-real-18624324.php "No one in the NFL has had their Wikipedia page edited more since Dec. 11, 2022, than 49ers quarterback Brock Purdy." 49ers fans have responded to the editor snark by hammering the page with over-the-top, unsourc...

orangepi

I saw that the Ram Mandir (T-H-L) in Ayodhya was "opening" soon, and wondered what Wikipedia had to say about it.

I was not particularly surprised by how bad the article was. The "controversies" section, as always, is the worst.

orangepi

This GAR is another reminder of why I am retired: you can pay me enough to be nice to these sorts of people, but you do have to pay me.

orangepi

I assume the original title was an attempt at a compromise between the "naming admin conduct cases after the admin whose conduct is being examined is unfairly prejudicial to the admin whose conduct is being examined" faction, and the "no, that's stupid" faction. Of course, the compromise attempted d...

orangepi

A lot of the arguments against the destination tables can be summarized as "we must delete this because it is useful". Some of the others are "we need to encourage editors to engage in [[WP:SYNTH]] rather than presenting data in an easy-to-understand format". Ultimately, Wikipedia these days loves u...

orangepi

Other than the involved parties and the Arbs, I count statements from 32 other people so far. They're mostly saying similar things to each other, and few are contributing anything that the Arbs don't already know or can't clearly see for themselves. And a lot of it is just general thoughts and opin...

orangepi

I expect three types of admins would fail. First, legacy admins who have done almost nothing over the past decade. Second, admins who are viewed as enablers of the unblockables. Third, any admin with more than about 18 months experience at AE enforcement. The last group isn't fair, but it is true. T...

orangepi

After reading Mzajac 's response(s) I have CIR concerns. Especially seeing this: I left the speedy tag in place because that was the state of the page after I contested the speedy deletion. I am not familiar with the SD process, and I assumed the way it worked was the way it is supposed to work . —...

orangepi

What a fucking joke of a case. If somebody other than a committee-member had started it, they would be getting TROUT-ed for wasting the committee's time.

orangepi

At 20 edits per day, this is a dead project, regardless of how fancy the "state-of-the-art, climate-controlled condominiums" are.

And for some reason I doubt there is a plan to have LLMs do all the work.

orangepi

There is "Rich the editor", who edits Wikipedia articles manually. He may not be the best editor, but he isn't bad.

There is also "Rich the bot operator", who is banned and will remain banned.

Can Rich the editor be unblocked while Rich the bot operator remains banned?

orangepi

Jake, I never got to reply to the white man who pretended to be black so he could call people, including me, the n word hard r then claim it was ok because he was black. But id appreciate an allowance to be used once on such a person. Lmk Tarc? Sure! He loves it when people dunk on him! :) Still, t...

orangepi

Potential clusterfuck coming down the pipeline: Steamboat Willie enters the public domain on January 1st, and there's a proposal underway to make it POTD for that day. However, it was somewhat belatedly realized that Steamboat Willie is not a Featured Picture – it can't be, because it can't be uplo...

orangepi

from 2001 Tour de France, Prologue to Stage 10 For now, the yellow is on the shoulders of François Simon, who scored a creditable 29th place (10.20 behind Armstrong). Stuart O'Grady ends way in the back. After having worn it six days, he says goodbye to the yellow jersey. He is now concentrating on ...

orangepi

There could be a Javascript tool that automagically expanded terms in edit summaries ...

More interesting to me is the difference in part-of-speech. The enwiki term is just "Reliable Sources", not "Use Reliable Sources".

orangepi

Stephen Harrison has a (fictional) book coming out about Infopendium, which is definitely Wikipedia wearing a trenchcoat: https://www.inkshares.com/books/infodemic The most interesting bit from the sample chapters is that, instead of things like [[WP:NPOV]] and [[WP:RS]] in the edit summaries, we ge...

orangepi

The point is that emotional editors shouldn't edit these topics1 Nableezy cares too much and he can't help but pushing POV ban me, too! did i appeal? I'm a NY Ashki Jew! ban me1 I care to omuch! You did that same thing with the Trump ban. I would gladly impose a Trump TBAN on myself if the same cou...

orangepi

Thank you, Andre, for reminding me that there is at least one good excuse for Nableezy's hostile on-wiki comments.

orangepi

Black Kite and Euryalus jumping in on team "Nableezy did nothing wrong ... or at least not enough wrong after his second (third?) warning this month". And yet nobody seems to dispute that, at this point in time, Nableezy actually is a hyper-aggressive POV-pushing SPA. When was his last edit outside...

orangepi

I made the mistake of noticing that Joe Roe (T-C-L) is complaining that Red-tailed hawk (T-C-L) is on Discord.

orangepi

Maybe there is movement:

Hi @Barkeep49, @Xaosflux et al, from the scrutineering point of view, this is now finished (I sent a confirmation e-mail to the Electoral Commission, the WMF and the ArbCom just a couple of minutes ago). Sincerely, Martin Urbanec (talk) 00:00, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

orangepi

Black Kite and Euryalus jumping in on team "Nableezy did nothing wrong ... or at least not enough wrong after his second (third?) warning this month". And yet nobody seems to dispute that, at this point in time, Nableezy actually is a hyper-aggressive POV-pushing SPA. When was his last edit outside...

orangepi

Still nothing. I suppose they may have another hour before the WMF staff in San Francisco leave today. Do we think the WMF (and/or the scrutineers) are going to work over the holiday weekend, or will this drag into January (February)? Time to start over? Between the WMF, ARBCOM, and the election co...

orangepi

Still nothing. I suppose they may have another hour before the WMF staff in San Francisco leave today.

Do we think the WMF (and/or the scrutineers) are going to work over the holiday weekend, or will this drag into January (February)?

orangepi

Black Kite and Euryalus jumping in on team "Nableezy did nothing wrong ... or at least not enough wrong after his second (third?) warning this month". And yet nobody seems to dispute that, at this point in time, Nableezy actually is a hyper-aggressive POV-pushing SPA. When was his last edit outside ...

orangepi

I didn't notice the Mike Hawk homonym until it was pointed out on-wiki.

And if the only criticism is "he used to be young and inexperienced, several years ago", the RFA should pass quite easily.

orangepi

Andrevan declares a wiki-break, which lasts all of six hours.

Meanwhile, Nishidani shows up to commit a topic-ban violation at AE (his words, not mine) for no good reason.

What a fucking joke.

orangepi

Another day of nothing.

This is going to be chapter 1 in "Wikipedia has died".

Are we going to keep pretending the cause is anything other than "don't put a time-sensitive task for enwiki in the hands of volunteers who don't speak English"?

orangepi

People are over thinking this. SFR just likes banning people. That's it. And if you like banning people you go to where the bans are cheapest - "contentious topics" - where it's easy to manufacture a pretext to indulge your hall-monitor fantasies. It's not like the guy does anything actually useful...

orangepi

Volunteer Marek wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:53 pm
People are over thinking this. SFR just likes banning people. That's it.

There is one admin willing to touch Israel-Palestine AE, he issues one set of bans, and you jump all the way to "SFR just likes banning people"???

orangepi

If you're on a word-limit, you should not mention the word limit *twice* in your response.

orangepi

They still aren't done.

This is a situation where the WMF should pay somebody to do it.

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