Wikipediocracy

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jc37 doesn't seem to be much aware of crat culture. Aren't the bureaucrats supposed to be boring and risk-averse by nature? The second any of them does anything the least bit controversial it seems they resign the bit (or have it taken away from them). Hell, I'm surprised Primefac still has the bure...

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Barkeep has such a distinctive and consistent communication style (and I like that about him) that I don't think he matches any obvious former admins. He strikes me as one of the good ones, even if his ArbCom is "one step forward, two steps back" pretty frequently.

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I'm appreciating the irony of a dude who exclusively posts multi-paragraph missives accusing someone else of oversharing, so there's that. Back to the topic at hand, Nihonjoe is still one vote away from being desysopped. In the interim, he is still editing although just to action rename requests. Wo...

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People are over thinking this. SFR just likes banning people. That's it. And if you like banning people you go to where the bans are cheapest - "contentious topics" - where it's easy to manufacture a pretext to indulge your hall-monitor fantasies. It's not like the guy does anything actually useful...

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People are over thinking this. SFR just likes banning people. That's it. And if you like banning people you go to where the bans are cheapest - "contentious topics" - where it's easy to manufacture a pretext to indulge your hall-monitor fantasies. It's not like the guy does anything actually useful...

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Today's featured article, Sun in fiction (T-H-L), begins with this gem:

The Sun has appeared as a setting in fiction since at least classical antiquity, but for a long time it received relatively sporadic attention.

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Ritchie333 wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 13, 2023 10:10 am
I think User:Beyond My Ken/thoughts (T-H-L) is quite insightful, personally.

Who cares how insightful he is? Communities die when we tolerate arrogant assholes because they happen to be technically correct.

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But that's something that's really needed — just somebody who has a black belt in notability doctrine and no dog in the fight that can take a quick look at a subject and the potential sourcing and tell the WRITER either "yes, this will fly" or "no, this will not fly, and here is why." It's about a ...

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Imagine all the unethical things one could do with the admin toolkit that don't result in "an edit" or "an administrative action" (or whatever the inactivity standard is). Mike Christie raises a hypothetical that amounts to "but what if my boss asks me whether a subject is notable oh no don't desyso...

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Wugapodes comes out of this looking like a 1L gunner who just got shut down by the prof. You should make like BU Rob13 and resign.

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Smallboner being a shitbag again. The Signpost should just be shutdown at this point. This Smallbones fellow seems to think that "Nobody can reasonably challenge the facts I've presented" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AWikipedia_Signpost%2FNewsroom&diff=1150605258&old...

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Both Jimbo's https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArbitration%2FRequests%2FCase&diff=1149530907&oldid=1149528594,preliminary and https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArbitration%2FRequests%2FCase&diff=1149611986&oldid=1149609055&diffmode=source,full statements ref...

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Who will be the first to suggest this is an ADMINACCT-style loss of "trust or confidence of the community"?

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Isn't outing just a side-show to the harassment angle? For about 80 to 90 percent of Wikipedians, no — it's at least one or two levels above that on the "Must Be Punished" scale, always assuming the victim is part of the in-group of course. Hmmm, my logic is this: WHY do we care so much about outin...

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What a https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArbitration%2FRequests%2FCase&diff=prev&oldid=1147654331&diffmode=source,dumb statement from this Dab dude. He encounters "blatant admin overreach" and doesn't think to, y'know, talk to the admin first? Why should this behaviour be okay f...

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WTT sez that suspending the case for only two weeks would be https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArbitration%2FRequests%2FCase&diff=1147332842&oldid=1147318506&diffmode=source, insufficient period for Dbachmann to reflect and respond. This sort of reasoning just seems like a diffe...

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It looks (sounds?) like the winner of the $2500 prize is indeed VQ97, also known as Turn a Couple of Pages, Slam the Book Shut and Play Five Notes on the Marimba, by a Mr. Thaddeus Osborne . Sorry, GX13! Hopefully there's a nice consolation prize for you. We'll probably never hear this again anywhe...

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The problem is that the lesson being learned seems to be, somewhat paradoxically, "all the users who opined that it wasn't vandalism are actually wrong and can be ignored", which I don't think is how "obviousness" is supposed to work whatsoever. It's obvious if and only if everyone reasonable would...

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Levivich has the motivation and capability to add some incriminating evidence, but he seems to have decided to take a break in the wake of the I-ban SFR imposed on him and VM, shortly after VM garnered yet another sanction in the topic area. This seems to be Lev’s first. He'll just go back to his m...

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Galton Bridge A “Featured Article”, right up on todays Disgrace o’ the Day, which suggests that mass cast iron is “forged”. The whole article needs a copyedit. The canal proprietors consulted Thomas Telford, the most eminent canal engineer of the day, and he designed a new, straighter route (known ...

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Kudpung needs to be banned from all RfAs. He is never a net positive at these things. That's ironic given who nominated Ritchie's RfF. Ritchie isn't known to be the coolest of characters and he'll throw anyone under a bus if it suits him. I wonder if he's pledged himself to a recall deal. Ritchie i...

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How much behind-the-curtain support are RFA nominators giving their nominees? I agree that MB dug their own grave here, but if I were in their shoes I would have asked the noms to review my answer to Barkeep's Q12 before posting.

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From Good Article nominee Sheesh! (T-H-L), courtesy of noted COI editor TonyTheTiger:

The use of "sheesh" as an expression has a history of popular use on TikTok, and in 2021, use of the phrase spiked as a viral trend on the platform

I heard you like to use so I put some use in your use.

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Slightly surprising to me that Sdrqaz didn't make it; seems like their shorter admin tenure compared to Moneytrees/Guerillero made just enough difference for them to miss. I also wonder if McClennon has just set the all-time record for highest final support % for a candidate who has never been an a...

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I mean, if we've voting based on funniest username, then you gotta give points to WikiBUTTia, the FART encyclopedia (T-C-L)...

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@RoySmith: You're welcome to post those IRC logs so that the community can assess for itself what I said. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 09:00, 24 November 2022 (UTC) :hmmm: Even though it's a near criminal offense on en.wp to log IRC chats? Making it clearer and clearer with each post th...

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Giraffe Stapler wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 19, 2022 5:47 pm
The "Chief AI Scientist" at Meta tweeted:
Yann LeCun wrote:Galactica demo is off line for now.
It's no longer possible to have some fun by casually misusing it.
Happy?
Yes. Yes, I am.

Yann is getting ratioed and I'm here for it.

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For what it's worth, Stephen seems to be https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AArbitration_Committee%2FNoticeboard&type=revision&diff=1122116710&oldid=1122083474,going with the brother defence : ... the harassment wasn't by me, but from someone very close to me. I've been deali...

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If the edits are truly so small and irrelevant, one wonders why you continue to insist on making them.

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Some ambiguity over at Opioid epidemic : The continued prevalence of the opioid epidemic in the United States can be traced to many reasons. For one, there is a lack of appropriate treatments and treatment centers across the nation. Big cities like New York City are lacking in treatment services and...

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I admire OID's candor and their post certainly got Tamzin going in the right direction (we can ignore the latter's bizarre post-hoc no, I totally didn't act emotionally schtick). But it's also clear that ArbCom was always going to decline this. One question is whether OID's strategy is fundamentally...

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Even Tamzin agrees that the optics are bad here. This is not doing Tamzin any favors—will be hard to escape the "activist admin" label now.

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As usual, nobody comes out of this looking good, whether it's TNT overreacting to just about everything (does nobody go to user talk pages to sort things out before jumping to AN anymore?), Spartaz doubling down when a pretty simple rephrasing would have nipped the whole thing in the bud, or Kudpung...

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Bingo. Wikipedia is no longer a marketplace of ideas, there is an approved way to think, and if you color outside those lines, you will be banned, even if another sanction is more appropriate. The CBAN proposal literally closed as no consensus. So unless you're talking about something else, I don't...

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All administrators have ipblock-exempt . I bet there is a large percentage of them that use VPNs or proxies, because who really wants sketchy checkusers sussing out where they live or work. Rules for thee but not for me. Someone named RAN1 has popped up after 8 years of essential inactivity to http...

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Former arb David Fuchs finally putting a stake through the "anyone would have done it" claim: As Jclemens points out, the only out for INVOLVED actions listed is "straightforward cases (e.g., blatant vandalism)". Athaenara's comments do not meet the threshold of vandalism, and if in fact the case w...

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Well, the word "homophobia" existed in the 1800s, so even if it meant something different at the time, perhaps Smultronstället can claim some internet points on a technicality :B' Okay, back to the Athaenara fallout. In their evidence, TNT https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitra...

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I've seen your name come up at ANI before. My cursory take at the time was that this dispute was boring and essentially pointless. If you want to be successful on Wikipedia without getting dragged onto the drama boards, then you will need a finely tuned sense of what hills are worth dying on, and wh...

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The ARBCOM case, which TNT insisted on, is replete with irony challenged motherfuckers saying things along the lines of I do not believe that a single bad incident, especially when recognized and understood to be so (and where there is strong possibility it was done in good faith), should disrupt y...

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I don't really see the problem here. The fact that DS are discretionary militates against a "correctness" standard of review. Who cares if another admin would have handled it differently?

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Nobody is irreplaceable. Certainly not this "Lugnuts" fellow.

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Let's not pillory the chap for his appearance. For all we know, he may be quite nice really. This. Going after someone's appearance 1.) is petty and pointless, and 2.) makes the person doing it look bad. Subjectively 'beautiful' people can be assholes. Subjectively 'ugly' people can be wonderful. A...

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Let's not pillory the chap for his appearance. For all we know, he may be quite nice really. This. Going after someone's appearance 1.) is petty and pointless, and 2.) makes the person doing it look bad. Subjectively 'beautiful' people can be assholes. Subjectively 'ugly' people can be wonderful. A...

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Let's spin up a grant proposal to read all the books in the Library of Babel. Those books contain a wealth of knowledge on underrepresented groups (+1 knowledge equity clout gang) and pay significant attention to not-yet-existent global communities. This all helps position Wikipedia as the knowledge...

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None of the other T&S actions were made using the new tactical powers T&S gave themselves, they were global, permanent bans for nutters, paedos, and other such wrong'uns; there is a distinction. I don't believe Brillyle, Kumioko or several others were any of those things. They definitely were not, ...

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Parts of this are worded weirdly. What is meant by this: This could include funding for training of community members involved in dealing with harassment or helping long term contributors correct behaviors that are inappropriate. We support the provision of the necessary resources to allow the commu...

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As the kids say, cringe and bluepilled. One wonders how many valuable contributors any of these Wikipedia chapters has actually recruited.

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Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Disputed_Signpost_article For some reason they now think that WP:BLP applies to a wiki-only pseudonym. It does. Per WP:BLPTALK: Although this policy applies to posts about Wikipedians in project space , some leeway is permitted to allow the handling of administra...

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* We want a broad representation of users to engage in deletion debates, but do not want canvassing to skew the list of voters. Was it an accident that Hawkeye7 weighed in to vote to keep the portal? It certainly looks like Hawkeye7 came for a specific reason. He edited only one other MfD discussio...

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So NinjaRobotPirate 's AN proposal for GS related to the Fram affair got next to no support and was closed . No surprises there. But I was curious about he and TonyBallioni's use of the word "toxicity" to describe the events of the past weeks ("The above is just a sample of how much this drama is sp...

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