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Anthonyhcole

Regarding "building an encyclopaedia thing" Anthonyhcole has a great idea on http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=207172#p207172,expert-vetted content . That presents an opportunity for a second track for article stewards. In addition to the content-creator stewards, we would have expert...

Anthonyhcole

Well done Tim.

Anthonyhcole

Kingsindian wrote:For people who are mystified as to what is this all about, here is the TLDR:

Thank you.

Anthonyhcole

Good call, Dennis. TLDR: Smartmatic is a sus' voting machine manufacturer who, for some months now, has been paying a PR company to neutralise their hatchet-job of a Wikipedia article. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard/Archive_118#More_on_Smartmatic,this CO...

Anthonyhcole

People are allowed to defend themselves within reason and counterattack within reason. However, my experience with forums is that extended slapfights between members does not lead to anywhere good, whether for the members involved or for the forum in general. I'm not seeing a slapfight (yet). This ...

Anthonyhcole

If Jytdog can't stand Greg, they can, of course, stop associating with him; indeed this course of action might be the best for all concerned. That course of action is a large part of why this place has devolved, basically, to you, Poetlister and Greg. This is a WP criticism site, not a WO criticism...

Anthonyhcole

I've briefly met Mr. Rasberry a while back. He's friendly and approachable enough. I like and respect Lane. He was a gracious host during my stay in nyc. And he does a great deal more than add links to Consumer Reports on Wikipedia. They’re a byproduct of the content he’s adding. He’s active in out...

Anthonyhcole

:) ... I think you all are aware that the credibility of WO is really diminished by shit like this. And there are probably more people who would come here to talk about stuff, if that kind of shit were not part of the culture here. It is not something that can "rule-booked" away but it for sure is ...

Anthonyhcole

We now have the following Editor's Note at the bottom of the blog post: Editor’s Note (July 25, 2014): Shortly after publication of this blog post, the “Truth in Numbers” video containing the quoted Jimmy Wales interview was pulled from YouTube. At the time of writing, the video is still http://vid...

Anthonyhcole

Jytdog, you’ve said some pretty harsh things to Barbara http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=7573&start=400#p208229,above . I’m about to embark on a collaboration with her. She’s offered to help me with http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=8579#p207161,the BMJ project...

Anthonyhcole

And this will be my amusement: There are currently over 53,000 links in English Wikipedia to Daily Mail pages. Anyone want to bet how long it will take the Wikipediots to get that number down to even 30,000? Anyone want to bet that the number of links one year from now (February 2018) will have act...

Anthonyhcole

Anyway, everybody can be sure I have no interest, no were, and I am not interested in the world of Netflix, and I don't know. In fact, I am not intersted in the world around, me, I live in my one world. So, if they say I a mad, I agree. The only thing I see is that the man is complete right. And ab...

Anthonyhcole

...I agree with the others above that Mr. Cole's idea is a good one and he should be commended for going to all this trouble, especially considering The Faithful probably won't go for it. I noticed he got 100% support for the " Simple Diff " idea (for the big f---ing banner), but still got "the thi...

Anthonyhcole

thekohser wrote:
Poetlister wrote:I think we can agree that as a proof of concept, Anthony's article shows that it is possible to get experts to polish up an article to high standard.
Personally, I am very, very impressed -- and kudos to Anthony for seeing it through the way he did.

Thank you so much, Greg.

Anthonyhcole

I'm hoping the societies/journals will offer this as a part of their committment to public service, and volunteer Wikipedia editors will continue to improve Wikipedia's medical content. How many reviews can a paid facilitator manage at a time? How long will each take? How many competent facilitator...

Anthonyhcole

Buy-in from the current executive director would be helpful too. Have you had any discussions with her? I've Tweeted at her about it but she didn't respond. I imagine she's subjected to a lot of noise. I'll make a formal approach once the review is finished. As I hope most here are aware, there has...

Anthonyhcole

I think we can agree that as a proof of concept, Anthony's article shows that it is possible to get experts to polish up an article to high standard. But how many articles could this be applied to in a reasonable time and without a king's ransom of resources? And how coud this be done in a Wikipedi...

Anthonyhcole

Anthony, could you provide us (or point us to) a C.V. of yours, or something similar? Namely, I am wondering if you yourself have professional medical experience or other tie-ins to Parkinson's disease. What drew you to assemble this particular crew of experts onto that particular article? Did you ...

Anthonyhcole

Bezdomni wrote:Speaking of experts, the WMF's CTO (Victoria Coleman) is also one...
http://www.heritage.org/defense/report/ ... -new-usdre

Wow. I'm impressed.

Anthonyhcole

No Ledge wrote:
Anthonyhcole wrote:The model includes a paid expert Wikipedia facilitator
You mean like a Wikipediatrician?

Actually, yeah.

Anthonyhcole

Who selects the reviewers? Since Wikipedia articles are supposed to be "owned" by nobody, I imagine this part might create frictions. The journal editors. For instance, I might submit Cancer pain to the journal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain_(journal),Pain , and they would assign the task to fi...

Anthonyhcole

*jumps up and down a bit* ...or a blog post here first? Let's see what happens. The big hurdle will be the banner at the top of the article. The whole thing hinges on that. Without that banner, this all comes to nothing. When I've finished integrating the review, and the reviewers have signed off o...

Anthonyhcole

To be WP:RS it would have to be written and checked by acknowledged experts and then locked against alteration by anyone except similarly eminent experts. Neither of those is very likely on Wikipedia. There have been attempts to do something like that elsewhere; indeed, Nupedia shoud have been like...

Anthonyhcole

...But seriously, I thought the workover and suggestions at the Parkinsons Disease article were really good...just we didn't get round to it. Might take another look soon.. Thank you Cas. It's nearly done, actually. I've broken its back. The genetics, the management and the diagnosis sections were ...

Anthonyhcole

Not to mention the problem of trying to lock articles where no-ledge is still in flux and evolving due to ongoing original research. Wikipedia needs the flexibility to be able to stay up-to-date. That's a real weakness and vulnerability of paper encyclopedias that contributed to their loss in marke...

Anthonyhcole

Jimbofluffers I'm stealing that. What is the response among WP:MED? Muted. ...some icons, like the FA "star" or GA icon appear on the main page as well. One can perhaps find some sort of precedent for what you're attempting to do. Doc James and colleagues brought Wikipedia's Dengue fever up to a hi...

Anthonyhcole

Your Parkinson's project probably sounds too accurate and experty for the average Wikipedian's taste. Also, your 1,000+ posts to Wikipediocracy probably aren't helping matters over there, either. I'm glad what I offered up quickly to you was at least a bit helpful! Yep. There seems to be no inclina...

Anthonyhcole

"And if a person's really smart and they're doing fantastic work, I don't care if they're a high school kid or a Harvard professor; it's the work that matters." -- Jimmy Wales Jimmy Wales initially supported Essjay's use of a fake, PhD professor persona, saying, "I regard it as a pseudonym and I do...

Anthonyhcole

I've heard there is a history of expert-bashing at Wikipedia. If so, how did it evolve? Does it still prevail? I think I see mostly indifference to expertise.

Anthonyhcole

Another. Has Wikipedia surpassed the quality of traditional encyclopedias? link https://www.quora.com/In-your-opinion-h ... e=8cfd03b4[/link]

Anthonyhcole

It's discussed in this Wikipediocracy thread.

Anthonyhcole

The results of the recent community election selection of board members: The candidates with the most support are: María Sefidari – User:Raystorm Dariusz Jemielniak – User:Pundit James Heilman – User:Doc James [link]https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2017/Re...

Anthonyhcole

Why do people become Wikipedia writers? [link]https://www.quora.com/Why-do-people-become-Wikipedia-writers/answer/Andreas-Kolbe?__filter__=all&__nsrc__=1&__snid3__=1065535333[/link] Jimmy Wales could have been the richest person in the world if he monetized Wikipedia. Why didn’t he do that? [link]ht...

Anthonyhcole

The results of the recent community election selection of board members: The candidates with the most support are: María Sefidari – User:Raystorm Dariusz Jemielniak – User:Pundit James Heilman – User:Doc James [link]https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2017/Res...

Anthonyhcole

Just for the record, https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2017/04&mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop#BLP_policy.3F,this discussion ("BLP policy?") last month and [hyperlink]https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/Verifiability_and_living_persons,...

Anthonyhcole

The desktop version has way too much linkshit but one essential link is found at the bottom of each page: disclaimer. It's missing in mobile view. (Hidden behind the 3 horizontal bars at the top left.)

Anthonyhcole

That's fascinating. Thanks.

Anthonyhcole

Some of en.Wikipedia's heavier hitters have been discussing WikiData.(link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk ... et_weirder....[/link] )
Greg is mentioned in passing.

Anthonyhcole

Great link. Thanks Jake.

Anthonyhcole

I'm wondering: if the Turkish government hosts a fast, attractive, functional, constantly updated mirror of Wikipedia (a standard website - not a wiki) that is accessible within Turkey, would Google eventuality start ranking that website above Wikipedia in its customers' search results? If Google d...

Anthonyhcole

I'm wondering: if the Turkish government hosts a fast, attractive, functional, constantly updated mirror of Wikipedia (a standard website - not a wiki) that is accessible within Turkey, would Google eventuality start ranking that website above Wikipedia in its Turkish customers' search results? If G...

Anthonyhcole

karmafist wrote:
Anthonyhcole wrote:Hi Karmafist. What kind of things were you doing to trigger that response from Jimmy? (Assuming Eric has accurately quoted Kelly and Kelly Jimmy.)
I stood up to him when he was wrong and he knew he was wrong.

Thanks. Is the contretemps still online? If so, a link or two would be good.

Anthonyhcole

Hi Karmafist. What kind of things were you doing to trigger that response from Jimmy? (Assuming Eric has accurately quoted Kelly and Kelly Jimmy.)

Anthonyhcole

Il faut imaginer Sisyphe heureux. Google took me to Wikiquote for that. https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Albert_Camus Sometimes I miss a breaking story for a few days, by which time the press is taking all kinds of things as given and it's hard to grasp the full picture from current reports. In thos...

Anthonyhcole

I noticed Rogol holding the WMF board's feet to the fire in several meta threads during 2016. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimed ... hives/2016

Anthonyhcole

Anthonyhcole

I suspect the one possible Wikipedia development that scares Wales more than anything is that volunteers could unionise and demand things. This is very much needed. Perhaps a Wikipedia editors and writers association rather than "union" which word might scare a few. The Randians wouldn't wantto joi...

Anthonyhcole

HRIP7 wrote:I suspect the one possible Wikipedia development that scares Wales more than anything is that volunteers could unionise and demand things.

This is very much needed. Perhaps a Wikipedia editors and writers association rather than "union" which word might scare a few.

Anthonyhcole

"You're going to laugh at me, but for many years I was deeply involved in Wikipedia criticism. ..." (link https://twitter.com/bungdan/status/800848561835384832[/link])

Anthonyhcole

Andreas has been quite prolific on Quora over the last few days. (link https://www.quora.com/profile/Andreas-Kolbe[/link])

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