Wikipediocracy

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As we all know, lying about height is common. And in Donald Trump, lying about everything is common. But he's been relatively consistent over time, I think, in claiming to be between 6' 2" and 6' 3". 6' 3" is probably a lie, but who knows when he was last measured. being 6' 3" means he can claim to ...

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/who-white ... ria-butina

The answer seems most likely to be: Maria Butina

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well, yes, it seems likely the article was created by someone connected to the subject or paid to create it. corporate bios are awfully boring to write.

but this one was so exciting it was finally time to post on this forum!!??

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Interesting. I'd never heard of this one before. It shows that even the most minor of hoaxes left up for a short period of time can get some traction, though I'd say the actual harm caused with this one wasn't too big. Its biggest benefit has been a minor amount of notoriety for the author to write ...

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Moral Hazard wrote:A putz with predictable proclivities in friends.

wikipedia may be an incel cult!

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Back in 2011-12, I engaged in some edit warring over at NXIVM and the article on its founder, Keith Raniere (now merged into NXIVM). I kept insisting the article must say the group was a "cult" and that Raniere was reportedly using it to get sex slaves. I got some pushback on this and eventually got...

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it made it to the NY Times now: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/19/business/media/youtube-wikipedia.html The main problem with YouTube’s presumptuous announcement, Mr. Jemielniak suggested, is that Wikipedia is not necessarily geared toward breaking news — and conspiracy theories tend to move at lig...

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http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/09/13/article-about-trumps-handshakes-appears-on-front-page-of-wikipedia-after-minority-block-deletion/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_and_handshakes The Devil's Advocate speaks up for Donald. (please delete if there is already a thread on this kerfuffl...

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i've never seen that page in 10 years, but it apparently it averages over 1,250 views per day . does anyone sense that new editors are more fearful to start editing wikipedia? it would seem much more daunting to start being an editor in 2017 than long ago. e.g., people submit articles to "articles f...

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Poor WMF dying for growth to catch back Google & Yahoo's search results :deadhorse: I am sure there are still many articles to write about the UK and Ireland but when i see the voluminous articles Wikipedia has about random underpasses and such in the UK, I don't see it as the highest priority. The...

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Wikitribune takes a turn in a new direction, hiring a grown-up with actually meritorious experience. But, as far as Wikipedia is concerned, Peter Bale is nonetheless non-notable. Amazing how effective this forum is. Within a few hours ... yeah, i just wanted to f*ck with Greg and Randy and see if t...

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saving lives!! anyone needs some drugs? Since I knew the wikepegia ,I constantly use it for my refernces.I am a Pharmacist by profession. I gather information regarding many drugs/medicines in detail and same is helping me in my profesion. Being aheart patient one of the medicine presribed to me has...

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The problem seems to be partly that it was owned by a husband and wife who divorced and the wife sold out. That's not going to happen to the WMF. yes, its messy, and neither side is being transparent from what i can tell. but the gofundme is well over $500,000 already, so i guess snopes will survive.

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when someone is on death row, i think its pretty standard to attack the defense attorney as incompetent, using anything possible. a printout of a wikipedia page becomes "he relied only on wikipedia!! he edited wikipedia to say his client wasn't guilty!!" now, its very possible the lawyer was totally...

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...We've seen the way Wikipedia handles breaking news. It actually works pretty well. He must be hoping to generate a critical mass of volunteer Tributarians to percolate WP-style rewrites of breaking news events, and he is hiring a moderation team to sign off on flagged revisions. The output of th...

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lol, that AFD is of such the old-school "my friend is super notable" variety. you'd think people could figure out better how to keep articles these days. Well, I am sure some people do, and we never hear about those cases. We hear about the people who wonder if its important to know English. In fact...

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should be merged? to ---> viewtopic.php?f=6&t=8304
Done. --Zoloft

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The Atlantic is unimpressed . The author studied at Michigan State University, so that bodes well. From the Atlantic piece: The larger problem with WikiTribune is this: Someone who is paid for doing journalistic work cannot be considered “equals” with someone who is unpaid I don't think this is the...

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So is this more of a return to the Nupedia concept? One reason it might work this time is because of Jimmy/Wikipedia's fame will bring in enough supporters to fund it. They have 1376 monthly supporters signed up as I type this (amount not listed). There are many podcasts and youtubers supported by m...

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fun juxtaposition of jimbo-content ...

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tarantino wrote:Thekohser and Graaf Statler

https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php? ... d=16617590

Do they provide any explanation for why the ban is applied? I see there are only 19 people (accounts) to have reached this lofty status of being ostracized worldwide

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Andrewa has now drafted a briefer and less melodramatic alternative letter. This is the current version: We the undersigned Wikipedians strongly protest the apparent actions of Burger King Corporation with respect to Wikipedia. It appears from news coverage and our own investigations that Burger Ki...

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http://www.sltrib.com/home/5053265-155/lawmaker-mike-winder-accused-of-manipulating I like his reasoning for refusing to admit self-editing: "Wikipedia guidelines discourage people using their real names and asks you to use a username," Winder wrote in an email. "So, whether it's mine or someone els...

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i think it could be done in a year, but that would be the fastest. do all the boring stuff mentioned above and wikipedians are happy to have you take care of drudgery and have the privilege of blocking fools and enemies and getting hate for it. there are few former editors who could start a new acco...

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Randy from Boise wrote:
Kingsindian wrote:
That's good.

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I may have first learned of that video from this forum, which I adapted for the title of the "In The Media" column in the Signpsot this week. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... _the_media

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Randy from Boise wrote:The Daily Mail and the National Enquirer are first cousins.

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certainly. here is the author of the Daily Mail article, and he's one of their features reporters:

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i love how combative the Daily Mail is being about this. though here is their home page lead article at the moment: http://i.imgur.com/XW3n7ix.png and this is only slightly down the main page: http://i.imgur.com/0k9DWmD.png If The Sun content wasn't normally behind a paywall after a day or so, it wo...

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I note that at least one JimboTalk warrior, Everymorning , believes that loyal Wikipedians should take a page out of Trump's playbook, and call for the media to STOP REPORTING ON THE BAD THINGS ABOUT WIKIPEDIA , because knowledge will just make the problem worse. lol, look at that. http://i.imgur.c...

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The Washington Post piece on the edit war is lighthearted enough. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/comic-riffs/wp/2017/03/01/is-garfield-a-boy-how-a-cartoon-cats-gender-identity-sparked-a-war-on-wikipedia/?utm_term=.a906df49d611 It was an inspired act of trolling, every troll's dream is to genera...

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Poetlister wrote:Is this good or bad news for WO contributors?

definitely good news, because artful trolling can evade Google, and Google will also clear the field of penis gifs and the like that we must compete with.

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The more I look at it, the more I think Giles Roberts is a fake article. Someone went to a lot of trouble to make it look legitimate, but wikipedia is the only place I can find any mention of the guy that cannot be attributed to wp; not even the sources mention him. What thinks the rest of you? how...

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someone should invite Lsjbot to join this forum and program it to respond in every thread with something resembling a response perhaps using ELIZA . >> Hello, I am Eliza. * hello > How are you today.. What would you like to discuss? * Article counts on these obscure Wikis are completely meaningless,...

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I am banned from The_Donald for making one minor comment. They really crush all dissent there.

There's group of people who've been banned from it with over 3,400 members:

https://www.reddit.com/r/BannedFromThe_Donald/

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It boggles my mind that there are people who get all their news from facebook. i am sure "fake news" had some effect on some low-information voters, but it would be extremely difficult to figure out how significant an issue it was. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/16/facebook-bias-bubble...

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lots of news sites don't allow comments.

more of the continuing march of established groups trying to improve content, despite the inherent problem of allowing "anyone" to edit that content. i did not picture this happening 10 years ago, wikipedia becoming part of the "Establishment"

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I hear Intel is still going, but I had exactly the same reaction as Greg. Nearly every single company that she's been an executive at has failed. Bra-vo, WMF! Bra-VO! Perhaps the WMF could avail us with some success stories for this new CTO? who in the world would WANT to be the CTO of a non-profit...

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i am very anti-Lsjbot. I got this photo to stick in the wikipedia article about it for a few months ...

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i could fix things, but like ernest hemingway its all intentional. :-)

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since i think i heard about this controversy via this thread, i should note I pretended to be a journalist once again at the Signpost and wrote it up. Weingarten was kind enough to respond to annoying tweets from me to comment. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2016-10-14/In...

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This is more Alex from Target than Joe the Plumber.

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He "self-vandalized" his article in 2007 which was also amusing:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01573.html

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thekohser wrote:
thekohser wrote:On this week's episode I'm Bob Seger, as the guys often do, they point out an error in Wikipedia.
The guys also make ample fun of the fact that on Wikipedia, Kid Rock (T-H-L)'s career is divided into five "eras".

lol. there is really so much creativity that gets overlooked on wikipedia.

milowent

we've been using this one on the Top 25 report for weeks with no complaints: [censor]https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Donald_Trump_January_2016.jpg (original link)[/censor] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/Donald_Trump_January_2016.jpg/338px-Donald_Trump_January_2016....

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Not to be an apologist for wikipedia ("according to" is golden), but it is amazing how often basic biographical details like this get flubbed. anyone who does family genealogy knows that people write down the wrong shit on official documents all the time. Lincoln Park is about 12 miles from Henry Fo...

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On the Top 25 report (which I co-write alternate weeks), we've long seen this Reddit effect. Reddit and Google Doodles are about the only single-site sources which can drive an article to top 25 popularity. It just so happens that this week my co-author went on a rant about Reddit in his opening com...

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the essay needs a section on the origin of the words "strongly" and "discouraged" for maximum effect.

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The idea that you need a substantial article, West Virginia University M.B.A. controversy , over something as trivial as this would be inconceivable to anyone outside the Wikipedia bubble. And has West Virginia University never had any other M.B.A. controversy? the title is hilarious. yet, apparent...

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People can write a web page about something and self-publish it via a web hosting company if they don't want to put it on Wikipedia. Of course they can, but it will never be noticed unless someone makes an incredibly specific Google search. Not true. mostly true. who goes beyond the first page of s...

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milkstudios.com has been around since 2000 based on archive.org, but the old archives are unreadable (maybe java or frames or something?). by 2004 you can tell it was a site designed by "basedesign.com", which searches show created a site for the current milkstudios.com folks. this means the "Milk S...

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