Wikipediocracy

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Sterling I don't see this guy as notable enough to even have a Wikipedia entry (which he probably himself wrote). Anyway, I'm going to try and undo all the vandalism that has occurred and restore the old information on the boglin article. Jim Sterling is one of the...

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Shouldn't we really promote voting oppose on New York Brad because even if the consensus is that he'd do a fine job, I think he's more then earned his retirement from that cesspool. Reading the voter guides, I find it somewhat interesting that Guerillero does not at the time of this writing support ...

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So unless there's a flood of last minute candidates, it looks like we're going to have quite a few empty arbcom seats for 2017. Is that a good thing? I've seen quite a few people argue Arbcom would be more functional with less members.

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aaaand, closed as keep. Looks like bludgeon may be an effective strategy after all. :blink: Most of the delete votes were unambiguously just wrong and merging it into Mitt_Romney_presidential_campaign,_2012 is a terrible suggestion due to the specialized nature of the article and sheer size of the ...

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United_States_presidential_transition Yes, nobody disputes the concept of transitions is notable, and that Romney's may have some important examples in it for that topic area. but there is a big difference between a planned for transition, and an actually executed transition. There are at least 3 "...

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I'm going to have to actually side with LavaBaron here in that most of the people voting Delete do not appear to have actually read the article or what it is about. The fault probably lies in the misleading title, the article content is not about what would happen if Romney had won the election but ...

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It seems to me that both the arbitrators and most of the people commenting on the issue appears to have forgotten that like blocks, removal of user rights is supposed to be preventative, not punitive. The question shouldn't be if Gamaliels actions rise to whatever level of awfulness but rather if he...

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This shows how US-centric Wikipedia can be. If it's recognised in Malta, a member of the European Union, then its degrees will be recognised throughout the European Union, a body with a greater population than the USA. Of course, those in the know may consider its degrees to be of low value, but th...

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Well, obviously it is a mistake...but that nobody has pointed that out after this many days: I find that worrying. It makes me wonder: do people generally just take the claims in the evidence sections as "proven", without actually checking? I can't speak for anyone else, but I just follow the evide...

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Don´t worry; he will never get out. In addition to 21 years he got something called "forvaring": he is kept in jail until the authorities judge him fit to be released. Which I´m basically willing to bet my life on will be: never. (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_imprisonment_in_Norway,this )...

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Does anyone actually check those diffs on the evidence-page? On the 18th, Yngvadottir added https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArbitration%2FRequests%2FCase%2FGamaliel_and_others%2FEvidence&type=revision&diff=715918732&oldid=715899422,this That statement include a claim that Gam...

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Does anyone actually check those diffs on the evidence-page? On the 18th, Yngvadottir added https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArbitration%2FRequests%2FCase%2FGamaliel_and_others%2FEvidence&type=revision&diff=715918732&oldid=715899422,this That statement include a claim that Gam...

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I find it somewhat interesting that the drafting arbitrators are DGG , Callanecc and Doug Weller but the only member of Arbcom appearing to be willing to (evasively) answer any questions has been Opabinia regalis while Drmies and the clerks are busy talking about how impossible it would be for them ...

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It would appear that Montanabw thinks that Wikipedia is run by the US government.

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The purpose of private submission of evidence is not to withhold the evidence from the accused, but rather to allow evidence to be considered that cannot be published. The right of an accused person to be confronted with the evidence is fundamental; without it, we might as well proceed with the ver...

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My preferred solution is for Wikipedia to no longer cover any event less then 10 years old. Wikipedia needs to stop trying to be a collaborative source of news because it will never be able to do it well.

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And it seems to me that Wikipedia would be even better served if they, (as SlimVirgin and others have suggested) got some proper enforcement against harassment. (One of the reasons I´m so mad about this, is that I see the length WP has gone to, in order to stop paid editing. Now, I´m against paid e...

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SlimVirgin supporting GorillaWarfare here does´t help. However, Slim (and others) *do* have an interesting point about being harassed, and what that does to you (...nothing good.) Since I have probably (?) "enjoyed" more harassment than Gamaliel, this is something I *do* know something about. (Than...

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It's on the real-life end of physical abuse though, not SWATting or Internet Tough Guy (not that those aren't harassment but it's low end stuff compared to physical violence). It usually has stemmed from a question at ref desk. Sometimes it's kids. SWATing is as physical as abuse gets isn't it? Hav...

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Don't get too excited. Like a $99 PPV fight, the hype is more entertaining than the show. I find just clicking the "edit" tab so distasteful but part of me wants to be a parliamentarian dick and calling "point of order" and asking how the recused arbs will stay recused. Will there be a separate lis...

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I've always thought the 500 word limit was idiotic. Let people go on as long as they need to or want to. RfB The word limit makes sense in the context of the stated purpose of that page. Which is to let the involved people make their statements but not replies. Arguably an even better rule would be...

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I think the music notability requirement on Wikipedia is mentions in 2 significant publications. So easiest way for you to make sure your article stays around is to just convince two music journalists to write about you. Zironic and The Garbage Scow : Thanks - that is good to know about music publi...

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Swedish Law does not distinguish between civil and criminal law. Copyright infringement is a criminal offence with penalties from fines to 2 years of prison in addition to whatever damages you might be liable for. Kind of scary. Does that mean any artist can bring a lawsuit that has criminal penalt...

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I think the music notability requirement on Wikipedia is mentions in 2 significant publications. So easiest way for you to make sure your article stays around is to just convince two music journalists to write about you.

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But it s a falsehood for WMF to respond that selfies on Facebook are now criminal. It would only be "criminal" (this all seems like civil law to me) for facebook to make them available while claiming they have a right to do so and they have a right to attribute it with a use license. Swedish Law do...

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Well, if nothing else it might be in the public interest of the local government to be able to make a public database of the various public arts within their region for purposes of tourism and culture. Since you need a building permit to raise these works in the first place, it would be reasonably ...

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One way to handle it would be for the local government to buy the picture rights to all public works on their territory in order to freely license it. Why on earth should they waste public money doing that? It would benefit nobody but the WMF and maybe one or two commercial organisations. Well, if ...

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The court all but absolved editors. They said it was the database that had value, not the individual photos. It's commons that has value and it doesn't matter whether it's commercial or not. This is an interesting ruling as it protects the tourists' private photos and places liability on the aggreg...

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I think this is a complicated problem. What one country allows another may not and there are huge differences in what is allowed where and for how long. Since the internet and Commons is online and crosses boarders, the host country the servers live on should be, IMO, what they go by. As such, sinc...

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It all makes perfect sense when you consider that the head of Wikimedia Sweden is the former Pirate Party leader.

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Biscuittin's position on COI is made clear on his talk page: "Holding an opinion is one thing. Being an active campaigner for or against a particular cause is quite another". http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=7520 Clearly not what is generally understood by the term 'conflict of ...

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I can only speak from my experience at the Homeopathy article, but the main problem there was not people arriving at the article claiming that homeopathy had cured their ills, but actual homeopaths complaining that the article, quite correctly, pointed out that there was no actual scientific proof ...

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All of his edits have been oversighted, but the text is currently on his user page because JzG asked at WP:ANI what had been oversighted. I suppose that'll disappear soon too. While the block makes sense to me because threatening to out someone if they don't comply with your demands can't possibly ...

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OK, may as well get this over with. So I notice my neighbor, who is a nut-job, has an AR-15. Because I have the constitutional right to do so, get myself an AR-15 too. That's rational, right? No. Now you have two nut-jobs with AR-15s. The rational thing would be for neither of us to have guns to st...

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Does this judgment affect Wikipedia or its participants in any way? Don't see why it would. Wikipedia usually goes with better safe then sorry on anything that could be related to copyright, defamation and privacy. I followed the trial a little bit, and it seems hard to tell on the surface how it w...

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I don't think a convicted [whatever] should be banned from any community based on their criminal record alone. Generally we don't let convicted fraudsters help the elderly manage their savings. We don't let convicted burglers install alarm systems. We don't allow those convicted of animal cruelty s...

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Vigilant wrote: Nobody here has ever heard of insurance?

Rumor is that they ran out of their liability insurance months ago on legal fees. Suppose we'll find out if that's true or not pretty soon.

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Personally what I think will happen is they will either declare bankruptcy/change their name (like what Blackwater did a few years back) and keep rolling or someone will just buy them out for pennies on the dollar with the proceeds going to the Hulkster or they may just settle out of court. I think...

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It could still put them out of business. In order to appeal, they have to put up 10% of the judgment (including any punitive damages that come down today) into a bond that isn't refundable. And, I thought I read somewhere, that they have to put 50% of the damages into some kind of escrow account wh...

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Perhaps Terry Bollea will see fit to keep them running, since it's likely he'll end up owning them after this is all over. As much as I really really want Gawker to lose, all legal experts seem quite confident they'll win the appeal due to the traditionally very broad applicability of the first ame...

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I certainly hope that they do not go under, I rather like io9 (sci-fi, movies, tv) and Jezebel. They are all their own islands, and from what I've read on some of them, they're pretty disdainful of the political nuttery that goes on at the main Gawker. Maybe the rest can spinoff like Wonkette did a...

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When I read the lede of the blog I first wondered what the problem was, as I don't think a convicted [whatever] should be banned from any community based on their criminal record alone. However the instances you document further into the blog makes a pretty strong case that he engages in predatory b...

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Adding super-redundant background information to the lede of various articles seems to be OnBeyondZebrax (T-C-L)'s thing if you look through his contributions.

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So if I understand correctly, serious evaluation of sources is dead, source material is not studied for potential inconsistencies or biases, biases with these materials are also no longer pointed out. Instead, petty squabbles over which source may be accepted are settled via taxing each others pati...

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Are there conflicting groups and is there an understanding or is it more of a constant battle of wits over who can outsmart the other in editing their biases into articles? It's not really a battle of wits. It's more just tag teaming articles together with all your friends to create a local 'consen...

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It sounds like you'll enjoy reading these threads: The gender gap gap Harassment Survey 2015 At The Signpost, Keilana's cussing causes criticism Ironholds quits R development over "exclusionary" variable Ahmed Mohamed However as you can probably tell by the replies you've gotten so far, the communit...

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Maybe there's a problem in Swedish law with the copyright on tattoos? Good point. It's extremely difficult to be 100% sure that a photograph of a tattoo can actually be licensed under CC, generally speaking most Swedish photographs handle this issue by paying a standard license fee to the relevant ...

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Overall I don't see a problem with the initiative though just like the comment on that blog I'm somewhat puzzled on the requirement of no visible tattoos. I need to know more about just how exklusiva we're talkin' before I'll commit to pose. Well, this is their website http://www.gustafmellbin.se. I...

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Are we really doing this?

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How about: "the percentage of editors who have a reputation for making sock accusations are overwhelmingly female?" Are there any male editors with such reputations? This is not going to be a productive line of reasoning. First we have no way to establish the real identity of self-proclaimed sock h...

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