Wikipediocracy

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sparkzilla wrote:Ahmed's clock is an insult to the real makers. The kids who actually make real stuff. It's their spirit that is crushed seeing this crap get headlines.
Which "kids who actually make real stuff" are complaining about being insulted and having their spirits crushed?

Sparky.

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Sparky, you're talking on an internet forum which in all likelihood has its fair share of males of a certain age and childhood interests/career paths. I humbly suggest you not assume everyone here is unaware of the distinction between scratch building and re-configuration. And always be careful of a...

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Building a clock implies creating the clock from parts found from other, separate, devices, or using separate components that you buy to build the clock. There are thousands of kids actually making clocks like this, on breadboards and from various parts they find or buy. It absolutely does not mean...

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We understand the policy about not contributing original research and would not be doing this

I see no reason why a sensible Wikipedian would have any issue with their proposed editting

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The point being, there's no evidence in the article that this is what he said he did. Incorrect. From Ahmed Mohamad clock incident : In an interview on Al Jazeera's Ali Velshi on Target, Mohamed said the clock was "built from scrap around the house" In what way wasn't the clock built from scrap aro...

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As I tried to highlight with my (*) above, it seems obvious these attempts to be seen to be helpful are also intended to be seen by the public at large. He could have just as easily simply pinged Carrite to initiate an email discussion. Quite obviously, since he appears to have got no joy in appeali...

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None of the evidence supports what he claims to have done - no mixing and matching of parts and no soldering. The point being, there's no evidence in the article that this is what he said he did. The issue here is the difference between standard news cycle reporting, where establishing the facts ma...

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Like I said, the specifics of the incident are unimportant*. I'm only interested in this bizarre attitude of some Wikipedians that users quoting your own rules to your own administrators is for some reason, an invitation to mockery and/or outrage. As I understand it, 'IAR' is for unanticipated logja...

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The People's Front of Judea (T-H-L)

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Always eager to start a thread and add a wall of text full of gossip, smirk, and bile, Morphing User has told us nothing about (a) the background of the Betacommand/Delta case; (b) the specific cause of the latest kerflufflle at AN/I; (c) any thought whatever on how this is anything more than a bri...

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Might admin Ched be one of these people you suspect of senility? According to his userpage, he was "Born 1957 (age 57–58)". The way he keeps popping in to Wikipedia sporadically just to say something incredibly stupid and obviously outdated, certainly reminds me of the 'cantankerous uncle' stereotyp...

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Here's a curious case I just noticed at AN/I. 683009279 In the opinion of some administrators, even if you're WP:Site ban ned, you should still be allowed to use your talk page to communicate with other users for reasons other than an appeal, if you're efforts are directly solely at improving Wikipe...

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Here is what boggles my mind. He had brought the internals of a commercial digital clock assembled inside a locking pencil box to school to show to his teachers. In an interview on Al Jazeera's Ali Velshi on Target, Mohamed said the clock was "built from scrap around the house" and that "some of th...

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Is there any sense that this a PR editing specific issue, or a generic issue with the fact that most requests from 'outsiders' to project & article talk pages (and indeed even 'notice'boards a lot of the time), will usually just go-unanswered as a rule. I posted a comment with evidence of this bein...

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The source [link]http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/09/24/piggate-jeremy-corbyn-real-issues_n_8191464.html[/link] has this pertinent tweet too (Osborne is the UK chancellor) https://twitter.com/lionelbirnie/status/646051003528282112 Of course, in the serious British media, namely the BBC, who are ...

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Glad to see that the principled stance of Labour's new leader has at least some use in British politics Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn appeared to criticise the media's handling of the accusations, telling ITV News: “The media treatment of any politician unsubstantiated allegations, be it David C...

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If you're asking if there should be some kind of WP:DIGNITAS, I find myself in agreement with this guy: You must be kidding.--MONGO 16:14, 26 September 2015 (UTC) On the more general point, Wikipediots have shown a remarkable tendency to be incredibly insensitive, and even in this scenario, which I ...

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Is there any sense that this a PR editing specific issue, or a generic issue with the fact that most requests from 'outsiders' to project & article talk pages (and indeed even 'notice'boards a lot of the time), will usually just go-unanswered as a rule, assuming it's not something that directly inte...

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Well, if the claims are true, the route to a free image is clear - source another one of the Radio Shack clocks, take it apart, put it into a pencil case, take a photo, upload it, and maybe take it to a Wikimedia workshop to show your friends your cool project.....

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Zoloft wrote:
Peryglus wrote:
MMAR wrote:I guess the question is, do they want to know who you are, or do they want to know who you are?

Know what I mean?
Nope.
Verified pseudonym versus actual off-wiki on-the-street-buying-ham identity?

Papers or street-cred.

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rude/aggressive to anyone who disagrees, the casual approach to INVOLVED, the mistaken belief that their principled stance will always prevail, the arrogant presumption that they don't need to even explain their position to others. Rude? Never. If someone didn't bother to support their arguments, I...

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I guess the question is, do they want to know who you are, or do they want to know who you are?

Know what I mean?

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rude/aggressive to anyone who disagrees, the casual approach to INVOLVED, the mistaken belief that their principled stance will always prevail, the arrogant presumption that they don't need to even explain their position to others. Rude? Never. If someone didn't bother to support their arguments, I...

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... assholes like Cassiano. Who he? Some kind of infobox afficionado? Don't think you ever mentioned him before. Oh, come on now... We can't expect Morphing User to know everything from birth, can we? Our English friend has obviously worked really, really hard to develop his two page Enemies List —...

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Obstinate in their views, rude/aggressive to anyone who disagrees Don't make me quote Hex and the self-awareness thing again. We're all like that. It's life. Get over yourself a bit and you could have a good time here. Well, that didn't last long. I knew you had no interest in this topic, I knew yo...

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Let me educate you then, my furry friend. Kww was an admin who also cared deeply about the project, and clearly had its interests at heard. Having built up a reputation as being uncompromising to the point of being impossible to work with, when he made the mistake of performing an INVOLVED block, t...

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Let me educate you then, my furry friend. Kww was an admin who also cared deeply about the project, and clearly had its interests at heard. Having built up a reputation as being uncompromising to the point of being impossible to work with, when he made the mistake of performing an INVOLVED block, th...

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The book, and the reactions to it, are undoubtedly notable (which is why I voted at the AfD for the article to be renamed/redirected and to include the so-far published parts of the book that don't involve fucking a pig). I suspect, though, that in the end "Piggate" will end up being redirected to ...

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...if you really feel the need to trash me in this manner, please do the minimum of research and acquaint yourself with what I have said on the subject... Beautifully observed. :applause: "you have fallen victim to the mentality of what Commons actually is" "nonsense, and here's why" SEA LION!!!!!!

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http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sea-lioning I see. Well, that's a shame. The whole point of a forum is to discuss. If they merely want to talk shit about me and expect me not to object, they chose the wrong medium.....and the wrong person. Pending forceful ejection for being a sea lion, I think I sha...

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I eliminated the canvassing issue with the following: "The RfA shall run for a week, and it shall be advertised to all logged in users, using the 'banner' system." If everyone knows about the RfA, then there's no risk of distortion through voters being informed through back-channels. "Vote for my g...

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Well, I've no idea. Anyone else? And for the millionth time, the sealion reference is meaningless to me - so if the point of it coming up in these contexts is to stop me doing something, then you're wasting your time. If it's just a pathetic insult, again, you'd be better off making sure I understan...

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The problem with the elaborate process you've offered is that it does nothing to prevent people from gaming the process and securing promotion through backchannel canvassing (which, despite Wikipedia's rule against canvassing, is the norm rather than the exception). The only way to prevent people f...

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I'd be surprised if I said anything of the sort, since it's not what I believe. I don't want to go back and forensically re-read my posts, so I'll simplify re-iterate that my position is the same as the policy, and if you're the guy who wrote it, then I agree with you. It theoretically exists, but ...

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I believe this was, in some form, originally Kelly Martin's idea, but it went something like this and I agree with it: 1. Every WP editor with 4,000 edits is automatically nominated for admin 2. The RfA starts with a 3-day non-voting period in which editors can post their opinions on whether the ed...

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Deck chairs. Titanic. You get the point. There's no point in reforming the process by which admins are selected until you establish a structure to evaluate whether current admins are doing their jobs adequately and should be permitted to retain those jobs or not. And to that you'd have to do two th...

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So, a while back, English Wikipedia admin Kww got his ass handed to him on a plate because of his obstinate approach to fundamental policies. I've been vaguely aware of admin John as someone who seems to hold equally strident, 'defender of Wikipedia', opinions. The latest example caught my eye today...

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Honestly, this is how shit Wikipedia is, this is how disgustingly immoral the Wikipediots are - the 'scandal' broke four days ago now, and despite the fact the 'Piggate' article breathlessly recounts how it's been parodied by Cassetteboy and Next Media Animation (nice plugs!), details who originated...

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A comment from today!

it remains the case that this particular narrative about a major public figure occupied large portions of the world's serious press for several days.

Deluded.

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MMAR is misapplying it to insist that there is no copyright in graffiti I'd be surprised if I said anything of the sort, since it's not what I believe. I don't want to go back and forensically re-read my posts, so I'll simplify re-iterate that my position is the same as the policy, and if you're th...

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auriental wrote:Visual Flow

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Sounds to me like he's seen the light, actually. Come on. Read his last hundred or so posts. I almost envy you your free time. Seriously though, if he's seen the light at last, so be it. Wikipedia is crazy-making, and the further away you get from it, the better off your psyche will be. True. I jus...

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I think this fruit-loop is my particular favourite. Tanbircdq Strong keep – The topic has received significant coverage in numerous relevant non-trivial, independent, third party and secondary sources. It is a very notable event with a large amount of mainstream print and broadcast news media covera...

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They don't appear to be convinced at Jimbo Talk. Indeed they don't appear to have a clue what you're on about, and I confess, I am similarly confused. The logo is obviously out of copyright but still a trademark. And unless Wikipedia has a sideline in the soft-drink business which I don't know about...

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He's returned, briefly, to engage in some more drama, but which at least elicited this parting message: You want to know why people leave Wikipedia? It's because of assholes who harass people at will, and admins who are too lazy to take action on it, or who agree with the asshole's political views....

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It's had bugs for so long, they are now features.

What is needed now is VF.

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Let the record show that I said 2019.

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It's expected he will stand down some time in 2014 I doubt that he will last that long. :whistle: Well, it's not a certainty, no. It's a presumption based on the fact the new leader will want at least a year's run up to the next election. Although I've seen it suggested he may even resign as leader...

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The book, and the reactions to it, are undoubtedly notable (which is why I voted at the AfD for the article to be renamed/redirected and to include the so-far published parts of the book that don't involve fucking a pig). I suspect, though, that in the end "Piggate" will end up being redirected to ...

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The Lewinski affair is part of Clinton's legacy because it led to impeachment. And because it actually happened, and we know it happened, and because it happened while he was President. The reputational/legacy consequences of Cameron allegedly sticking his dick in a pig's mouth when he was at Univer...

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