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by Notvelty
Sun Jul 19, 2015 2:02 am
Forum: Sexism
Topic: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015
Replies: 182
Views: 23458

Re: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015

Well there were very few scenarios (discussions were around 10 mins for each), and I only really remember one properly: You're with your drunk friends walking towards a party and there's a girl walking down the road in the opposite direction. One of your friends asks her to come with you, and in re...
by Notvelty
Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:32 pm
Forum: Sexism
Topic: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015
Replies: 182
Views: 23458

Re: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015

I assume that many of the male conference attendees will want to attend this session just because the ratio of men-to-women in the room will be more like 2-1 instead of the usual 10-1 in the other sessions. Remember, most of these guys likely don't have girlfriends and haven't had a girlfriend in a...
by Notvelty
Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:23 pm
Forum: Sexism
Topic: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015
Replies: 182
Views: 23458

Re: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015

You needed some information on what to do in these circumstances did you? Are you an idiot? I am not a fan of these sorts of "courses" in this sort of environment. They don't teach anything to any of the participants and exist only as a junket for the like minded and to supply an over-payment of fu...
by Notvelty
Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:53 am
Forum: Sexism
Topic: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015
Replies: 182
Views: 23458

Re: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015

You needed some information on what to do in these circumstances did you? Are you an idiot? I am not a fan of these sorts of "courses" in this sort of environment. They don't teach anything to any of the participants and exist only as a junket for the like minded and to supply an over-payment of fu...
by Notvelty
Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:56 pm
Forum: Sexism
Topic: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015
Replies: 182
Views: 23458

Re: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015

Note that the goals include working out/strategising on how to change policy, which seems to me like borderline meatpuppetry given the context of a closed-session, invitation-only meeting of like-minded people discussing a narrow and presently contentious issue. The exact wording they're using is "...
by Notvelty
Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:51 pm
Forum: Sexism
Topic: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015
Replies: 182
Views: 23458

Re: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015

P.S. This is clearly a political faction-organizing exercise. "Let's meet, greet, and strategize..." Meeting, greeting, and strategizing for positive change is a good thing. I was invited to the workshop, but too late to actually attend. I'm thinking of posting a blog entry here about the workshop,...
by Notvelty
Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:54 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: State of the Wiki 2015: headless chickens?
Replies: 5
Views: 413

Re: State of the Wiki 2015: headless chickens?

lilburne wrote:
sparkzilla wrote:What the project needs is a publisher.
Actually it needs a playleader.
That's not how you spell "arsonist".

(Clearly that was figurative, but you can never underestimate just how far someone will go to misrepresent in the name of assuming victimhood)
by Notvelty
Thu Jul 16, 2015 7:40 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Commons' oddest photos
Replies: 105
Views: 6884

Re: Commons' oddest photos

I suspect this photo, the only contribution to wikimedia by ThePuddinManCan, is a copyvio. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Example_of_an_Evil_Clown.jpg/320px-Example_of_an_Evil_Clown.jpg No, no. It's an evil clown. Easy mistake to make, though. Wikipedia:full of evil clowns.
by Notvelty
Wed Jul 15, 2015 3:45 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Jimbo shares a $1,000,000 award with Berners-Lee
Replies: 272
Views: 43957

Re: Jimbo shares a $1,000,000 award with Berners-Lee

Jimbo using that money to help bring freedom of expression to the Middle East is going really, really well. I mean, imagine if Jimbo's work hadn't been bringing pressure back onto the UAE government -- this woman may have been imprisoned for 54 or 55 hours, rather than the lenient 53 hours. I'm sur...
by Notvelty
Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:05 am
Forum: Web 2.0: The Emperor's New Clothes
Topic: Caitlin Dewey: Zucks's plans for telepathy
Replies: 7
Views: 1037

Re: Caitlin Dewey: Zucks's plans for telepathy

Vigilant wrote:
SB_Johnny wrote:
Vigilant wrote:Don't you suppose that they'd be overwhelmed and their frontal cortexes burned out by all the "Fuck you, Zuck!" thoughts?
Cortices. :B'
You see?!
Man, I just don't know what he's thinking.
by Notvelty
Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:42 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Wikipediareview.com Going Down? Lights Out?
Replies: 59
Views: 4643

Re: Wikipediareview.com Going Down? Lights Out?

Let's at least give Selina some recognition for the fine job she's done in eventually paying the hosting and registration fees. What with all the credit card fraud and computer hacks that go on these days, it's a hassle even to maintain an auto-pay account what with your having to cancel your card ...
by Notvelty
Mon Jul 13, 2015 12:45 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: WMF 2015-2016 Annual Plan
Replies: 21
Views: 919

Re: WMF 2015-2016 Annual Plan

The Adversary wrote: May I suggest the Scandinavian model? (well, I assume it exists places outside Scandinavia, too...)
Most Scandinavian models don't - function outside of Scandinavia that is. Many of them fall down when exposed to cultural differences.
by Notvelty
Mon Jul 13, 2015 12:39 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Let's go on a vacation to Italy! Buy my ticket please, WMF!!
Replies: 202
Views: 15000

Re: Let's go on a vacation to Italy! Buy my ticket please, W

Yes, I saw that right before I had to run into town. And I can't fix it since the edit button is gone. Didn't the antiquated climbing gear give you a clue? Jerry Brown springs to mind. Twice as governor, once young, once old. Truth be told, I was running out the door and should have left it in prev...
by Notvelty
Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:37 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Let's go on a vacation to Italy! Buy my ticket please, WMF!!
Replies: 202
Views: 15000

Re: Let's go on a vacation to Italy! Buy my ticket please, W

That's a nice Wikimania you have there. Shame if anything were to happen to it.
by Notvelty
Sun Jul 12, 2015 12:08 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Crap articles
Replies: 4421
Views: 822723

Re: Crap articles

Not too long ago, proper sub-editors would have called the authors of those news articles into the office. The blinds would have been drawn. Later, they would call the classifieds to place a "job vacant" notice. It is ironic that, since Journalism has become a profession and not a trade, it has beco...
by Notvelty
Sun Jul 12, 2015 2:05 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: Here we go again ... politics and AE
Replies: 25
Views: 1571

Re: Here we go again ... politics and AE

And the WP POV is that rightwing Republicans are minions of Satan, Let's be fair, that's a fairly common point of view. And there are some article streams where a right-leaning position dominates. Not many, but some. so there is no politically significant sympathy for BLP protections of the Koch br...
by Notvelty
Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:55 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Let's go on a vacation to Italy! Buy my ticket please, WMF!!
Replies: 202
Views: 15000

Re: Let's go on a vacation to Italy! Buy my ticket please, W

An interesting update: http://www.thelocal.it/20150708/italy-mayor-fears-migrants-will-scupper-wiki-event,Mayor fears migrants will ruin Wikipedia event That 200k grant may make a difference to some of our previous concerns for that venue. Or is that just some garbage accounting based on about "$10...
by Notvelty
Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:43 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Let's go on a vacation to Italy! Buy my ticket please, WMF!!
Replies: 202
Views: 15000

Re: Let's go on a vacation to Italy! Buy my ticket please, W

An interesting update: http://www.thelocal.it/20150708/italy-mayor-fears-migrants-will-scupper-wiki-event,Mayor fears migrants will ruin Wikipedia event That 200k grant may make a difference to some of our previous concerns for that venue. Or is that just some garbage accounting based on about "$10...
by Notvelty
Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:26 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Let's go on a vacation to Italy! Buy my ticket please, WMF!!
Replies: 202
Views: 15000

Re: Let's go on a vacation to Italy! Buy my ticket please, W

An interesting update: http://www.thelocal.it/20150708/italy-mayor-fears-migrants-will-scupper-wiki-event,Mayor fears migrants will ruin Wikipedia event That 200k grant may make a difference to some of our previous concerns for that venue. Or is that just some garbage accounting based on about "$10...
by Notvelty
Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:35 am
Forum: Technology
Topic: The Visual Editor is a huge failure
Replies: 1609
Views: 268660

Re: The Visual Editor is a huge failure

Peryglus wrote:
Hex wrote:
Vigilant wrote: Pretty much the solution to every VisualCowpat problem is to just not use it.
A strange game, the only way to win is not to play.
Ah, a bit like The Game (mind game) (T-H-L)
No. You can also win The Game by being older than 13.
by Notvelty
Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:32 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: Amnesty Ruling: Arbcom Violates Policy, Grabs Jimbo's Power
Replies: 79
Views: 3548

Re: Amnesty Ruling: Arbcom Violates Policy, Grabs Jimbo's P

.............Lewis Carroll......... Speaking of pedophile creepers... RfB Get up to date. That was disproved in the 1970s. Hmm. Really? Given everything else that happened around that period and the early 80s, I'm not sure that's a roaring endorsement. I do tend to believe that he wasn't, however.
by Notvelty
Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:28 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: Amnesty Ruling: Arbcom Violates Policy, Grabs Jimbo's Power
Replies: 79
Views: 3548

Re: Amnesty Ruling: Arbcom Violates Policy, Grabs Jimbo's P

<snip> I think that creating a list of occurrences and intentionally leaving out some that further inform the context is dishonest. What do you think? I think that if that's what you think you might just insert the missing elements so we don't have to play the world's most tedious game of internet ...
by Notvelty
Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:21 am
Forum: Sexism
Topic: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015
Replies: 182
Views: 23458

Re: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015

Okay, a pilot for admin training then. Lots of endorsements, people must think the admins need improved. I envision this will one day be required coursework for admins, with a yearly online refresher. That's quite a vision. If you haven't noticed, the count of active administrators is crashing. I r...
by Notvelty
Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:14 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: Amnesty Ruling: Arbcom Violates Policy, Grabs Jimbo's Power
Replies: 79
Views: 3548

Re: Amnesty Ruling: Arbcom Violates Policy, Grabs Jimbo's P

MMAR wrote: <snip>
I think that creating a list of occurrences and intentionally leaving out some that further inform the context is dishonest.

What do you think?
by Notvelty
Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:38 pm
Forum: Sexism
Topic: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015
Replies: 182
Views: 23458

Re: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015

Puebla wrote:
Notvelty wrote:
Because tourists never get lost and someone completely distracted by a map is never a target in even "good" areas.
That's true in any major city.
Well that was a dishonest response.
by Notvelty
Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:44 pm
Forum: Sexism
Topic: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015
Replies: 182
Views: 23458

Re: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015

Good to see that the workshop coordinator who will be paid for the talk (right?) is spamming Wikipedians to boost attendance. I saw in the Ally Skills presentation that one thing conference coordinators should do to make women feel safe is not to schedule conferences in neighborhoods known to be un...
by Notvelty
Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:41 pm
Forum: Sexism
Topic: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015
Replies: 182
Views: 23458

Re: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015

I wonder about the "How to pick up women" proposal, by I believe someone at WMUK, if it ever got funded, if so, what was the budget. It's an important lesson. It's not like picking up a man, in that you can pretty much set your shoulder at mid-range and drive with your legs. With women, you have to...
by Notvelty
Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:36 pm
Forum: Sexism
Topic: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015
Replies: 182
Views: 23458

Re: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015

What might women feeling discomfort do? Or is it the case that men feeling discomfort should..ahem.. "man up", while women feeling discomfort is something should all respond to with empathy? My wife and I must have an empathic relationship - whenever she feels discomfort, I feel discomfort. :XD I d...
by Notvelty
Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:34 pm
Forum: Sexism
Topic: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015
Replies: 182
Views: 23458

Re: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015

Men feeling discomfited do seem to have an atavistic and irresistible impulse to start banging their chests, while essentially running around like headless chickens. Excellent. What might women feeling discomfort do? Or is it the case that men feeling discomfort should..ahem.. "man up", while women...
by Notvelty
Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:27 pm
Forum: Sexism
Topic: Gender Gap: The IdeaLab Inspire Campaign
Replies: 61
Views: 11528

Re: Gender Gap: The IdeaLab Inspire Campaign

That discussion. Oy vey. A lot of the more 'meta' areas of Wikipedia are "scourged with poor/derogatory language". Ironholds (talk) 22:11, 6 March 2015 (UTC) More like IRONYholds, amirite?! Perhaps some throat punching is in order, eh Oliver? P.S. My offer still stands. Seems that gender identifica...
by Notvelty
Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:24 pm
Forum: Sexism
Topic: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015
Replies: 182
Views: 23458

Re: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015

Men feeling discomfited do seem to have an atavistic and irresistible impulse to start banging their chests, while essentially running around like headless chickens. Excellent. What might women feeling discomfort do? Or is it the case that men feeling discomfort should..ahem.. "man up", while women...
by Notvelty
Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:20 am
Forum: Sexism
Topic: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015
Replies: 182
Views: 23458

Re: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015

Ms Lightbreather should be given quite a lot of leeway in terms of her issues with men, because they are based on actual horrendous actions that have actually happened to her. That there may be some displacement to other men and men in general is not something that is her fault, or something that l...
by Notvelty
Wed Jul 08, 2015 2:14 am
Forum: Sexism
Topic: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015
Replies: 182
Views: 23458

Re: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015

1. Do you guys really understand what is upsetting you about this workshop? I'm sure, whether we do or not, that you'll be keen to tell us exactly what we think. I have to say, I am a little miffed about this whole incident now, because I myself first mentioned the particular detail about the works...
by Notvelty
Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:22 am
Forum: Sexism
Topic: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015
Replies: 182
Views: 23458

Re: The Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania 2015

Lightbreather wrote:
1. Do you guys really understand what is upsetting you about this workshop?
I'm sure, whether we do or not, that you'll be keen to tell us exactly what we think.
by Notvelty
Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:10 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: Is Scott a Hex offender?
Replies: 193
Views: 6497

Re: Is Scott a Hex offender?

Vigilant wrote:
GorillaWarfare wrote:
Vigilant wrote:Do you have any questions for me?
None that immediately come to mind.
:(
What's your opinion on toaster-hole depth?
by Notvelty
Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:22 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: The declining credibility of RFA
Replies: 133
Views: 10666

Re: The declining credibility of RFA

Again, the RfA, like the ARBCOM elections, have as much gravitas as a middle school student body president election. They are purely popularity contests with no predictive value on whether the elected person will perform their role competently. Well that's not true at all. History clearly shows tha...
by Notvelty
Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:07 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: A "respected member of Wikipediocracy" is up for ANI
Replies: 42
Views: 1366

Re: A "respected member of Wikipediocracy" is up for ANI

I was quite surprised by Aronzak's inclusion of Wikia information. Apart from the fact that it's an external site, does that fool not that Wikia is a for-profit project that is linked to thousands of times from Wikipedia itself? In fact, four people brought up my off-wiki posts. So much for anonymo...
by Notvelty
Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:00 am
Forum: Web 2.0: The Emperor's New Clothes
Topic: Grant Shapps again...
Replies: 364
Views: 22830

Re: Grant Shapps again...

Seems to me that slightly below benefits with lotsa flexibility is exactly what you want to be offering for a position like that. Heck, there's even a (sexist because it's been around for a while) name for the demographic that it would suit perfectly: "Doctor's Wives". You've missed another demogra...
by Notvelty
Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:41 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: Another day, another Gamergate ArbCom case
Replies: 988
Views: 64133

Re: Another day, another Gamergate ArbCom case

:popcorn: As Handpolk is shown the door, in comes Neptune's Trident , the next in line at AE! Reported by Thorrand , if you listen really carefully you can hear the sound of the infamous Gamergate clown car's engine puttering away, accompanied by the faint squeaks of their novelty horns, as the GGC...
by Notvelty
Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:53 am
Forum: Web 2.0: The Emperor's New Clothes
Topic: Grant Shapps again...
Replies: 364
Views: 22830

Re: Grant Shapps again...

To compare: current cap on benefits in Britain is http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jul/05/george-osborne-cut-benefits-cap-20000-year-outside-london,£ 26 k , to be reduced, in London to about £ 23 k ...which is still more than WFUK is willing to pay its new employee. :rotfl: But just about r...
by Notvelty
Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:46 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: A "respected member of Wikipediocracy" is up for ANI
Replies: 42
Views: 1366

Re: A "respected member of Wikipediocracy" is up for ANI

So I tried for a second unblock request, which was declined . What I originally wrote here was much funnier, but in the interests of avoiding twisted arrangements of clumped fibrous material in undergarments, I shall simply say: Are you sure you didn't want to offer to debase yourself in other ways?
by Notvelty
Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:41 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: Another day, another Gamergate ArbCom case
Replies: 988
Views: 64133

Re: Another day, another Gamergate ArbCom case

:popcorn: As Handpolk is shown the door, in comes Neptune's Trident , the next in line at AE! Reported by Thorrand , if you listen really carefully you can hear the sound of the infamous Gamergate clown car's engine puttering away, accompanied by the faint squeaks of their novelty horns, as the GGC...
by Notvelty
Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:25 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: Is Scott a Hex offender?
Replies: 193
Views: 6497

Re: Is Scott a Hex offender?

<snip sanctimony from me (but what great sanctimony)> This is dead on and even harmonizes with some of what I wanted to do had I been elected. I would think the others would have fought you tooth and nail. I didn't say it was possible. However, it might just be possible some time after the first pe...
by Notvelty
Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:00 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: Is Scott a Hex offender?
Replies: 193
Views: 6497

Re: Is Scott a Hex offender?

What's the word the kids are using for "selective offense"? I don't think cherry-picking is avoidable, much less controllable - Wikipedia is so full of narcissists, some of them over there would do it even if nobody among us ever posted anything nasty whatsoever. So, we set our standards at a reaso...
by Notvelty
Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:56 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: Is Scott a Hex offender?
Replies: 193
Views: 6497

Re: Is Scott a Hex offender?

I've read virtually every ARBCOM 'case' out there and you guys routinely get into trouble overstepping your authority and remit. Sometimes you just refuse to do the right thing, even when it's right under your noses. e.g. Demiurge1000. WO dropped the dime on that guy and you guys sat on it. So did ...
by Notvelty
Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:40 am
Forum: Governance
Topic: Is Scott a Hex offender?
Replies: 193
Views: 6497

Re: Is Scott a Hex offender?

Well at least I can rest easy knowing I'm not the only arbitrator whose abilities are judged based on appearance here... Do you have a reason for being here other than to post sealion comments at easy targets? I lurk here fairly often because the commentary is sometimes useful. If the folks here wo...
by Notvelty
Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:21 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: A "respected member of Wikipediocracy" is up for ANI
Replies: 42
Views: 1366

Re: A "respected member of Wikipediocracy" is up for ANI

Is there a.reason that we assume that the stated reason in any way relates to the real reason?

Weasels, all of them.
by Notvelty
Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:03 pm
Forum: Governance
Topic: Is Scott a Hex offender?
Replies: 193
Views: 6497

Re: Is Scott a Hex offender?

Well at least I can rest easy knowing I'm not the only arbitrator whose abilities are judged based on appearance here... Do you have a reason for being here other than to post sealion comments at easy targets? You also appear to have misunderstood the recent notion of "sealion". I could well have. ...
by Notvelty
Sun Jul 05, 2015 9:50 pm
Forum: Governance
Topic: Is Scott a Hex offender?
Replies: 193
Views: 6497

Re: Is Scott a Hex offender?

Careful, Vig. You'll be put in the kill file for making fun of someone's appearance. Well, just as soon as we stop making fun of someone's appearance.
by Notvelty
Sun Jul 05, 2015 9:44 pm
Forum: Governance
Topic: Is Scott a Hex offender?
Replies: 193
Views: 6497

Re: Is Scott a Hex offender?

GorillaWarfare wrote:Well at least I can rest easy knowing I'm not the only arbitrator whose abilities are judged based on appearance here...
Do you have a reason for being here other than to post sealion comments at easy targets?