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by Moonage Daydream
Sat Sep 28, 2013 10:14 pm
Forum: News and Media
Topic: My Boy Lollipop
Replies: 14
Views: 1039

Re: My Boy Lollipop

I think it's always a mistake to call attention to a Wikipedia article. Biographies of Living Persons are as likely to end up being edited by the subject's enemies as by their fans, and a "vanity" biography may turn into an attack page at any moment. In my opinion, nobody benefits from having a bio...
by Moonage Daydream
Sat Sep 28, 2013 10:05 pm
Forum: Governance
Topic: WMUK dysfunctions and in-fighting
Replies: 18
Views: 991

Re: WMUK dysfunctions and in-fighting

It's nice to see them thrive. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6d/WMUK_membership_over_time.jpg That chart comes from the numbers listed here . I question that high point of 330 members (from the 2012 annual report apparently). Maybe someone could ask one of the WMUK staff members to...
by Moonage Daydream
Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:41 pm
Forum: Technology
Topic: Flow - the next Visual Editor debacle
Replies: 580
Views: 180232

Re: AuntFlow - the next Visual Editor

Liquid threads version two? In which the WMF tries to give you something no one asked for but Brandon Harris thinks you want? Gotta spend those donation dollars somehow.
by Moonage Daydream
Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:15 pm
Forum: News and Media
Topic: My Boy Lollipop
Replies: 14
Views: 1039

Re: My Boy Lollipop

From the WP article: In April 2013, her memoir I Was the First Woman Phil Spector Killed, described as a "tell all book" in a "Gonzo journalistic style" about life in the Brill Building between 1958 and 1961, was published and was featured at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The source for this is a ...
by Moonage Daydream
Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:36 pm
Forum: News and Media
Topic: My Boy Lollipop
Replies: 14
Views: 1039

Re: My Boy Lollipop

Not mentioned in Lollipop (1958 song) (T-H-L):

Millie Small (T-H-L).

Mentioned in Lollipop (1958 song) (T-H-L):
The song is a firm favorite amongst many performing barbershop music.[citation needed]
by Moonage Daydream
Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:50 pm
Forum: News and Media
Topic: Wikipedia faces revolt over VisualEditor - Daily Dot
Replies: 33
Views: 1234

Re: Wikipedia faces revolt over VisualEditor - Daily Dot

Plenty of people did volunteer. They ignored the responses, did not fix the already found bugs and bulled ahead because they wanted to meet their artificially aggressive schedule. Chef : Would you like to try my new dish, la soupe agile ? Patron : OK. (samples some) Hmm. Interesting, but way too sa...
by Moonage Daydream
Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:48 am
Forum: Technology
Topic: The Visual Editor is a huge failure
Replies: 1609
Views: 268660

Re: The Visual Editor is a huge failure

Dear en.wp, You think VE was a disaster? Wait for flow. Your only chance is to force early and often conversations about what you're willing to accept. What I've seen so far is, "Fuck you, we do what we want" from Jorm and Company. Once they figure out that Flow won't support their fancy multicolor...
by Moonage Daydream
Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:28 pm
Forum: News and Media
Topic: Gender Gap
Replies: 430
Views: 4440

Re: How Many Women Does It Take to Change Wikipedia?

Just to answer the question the topic title poses: How Many Women Does It Take to Change Wikipedia? Answer: Apparently more than one: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b2/Sue_Gardner_Feb_2013_portrait_crop_2.jpg/640px-Sue_Gardner_Feb_2013_portrait_crop_2.jpg Yes but she does ha...
by Moonage Daydream
Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:37 pm
Forum: News and Media
Topic: Lily Cole's social network
Replies: 222
Views: 34646

Re: Lily Cole's social network

I suspect that the current one will be around for some time. She is far more useful to him than the previous ones were. Who said anything about Jimmy dumping her? He'll revert to form and then it'll be onto the hunt for number 4. Can we cut Jimbo some slack for these imaginary transgressions? You c...
by Moonage Daydream
Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:24 pm
Forum: News and Media
Topic: Are plastic surgeons nip/tucking ads into WP?
Replies: 63
Views: 6786

Are plastic surgeons nip/tucking ads into WP?

The Daily Dot: " Are plastic surgeons nip/tucking ads into high-profile Wikipedia articles? " If you're a woman looking to learn more about a labiaplasty—an expensive, invasive reconstructive surgery—your first step is probably to just plug the term into Google. That will, almost inevitably, bring y...
by Moonage Daydream
Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:05 pm
Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
Topic: Christopher Lynn Jackson
Replies: 2
Views: 514

Christopher Lynn Jackson

Gawker: " Man Arrested for Branding Woman's Genitals Arrested Again for Dog Porn " The arrest of an Arizona man early this month on suspicion of branding his name into the private parts of at least one former girlfriend has resulted in the same man's arrest earlier this week on bestiality charges. C...
by Moonage Daydream
Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:28 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Prioryman vs the world
Replies: 101
Views: 4334

Re: Prioryman vs the world

You shouldn't have revision deleted it. Sometime, someone is going to take Sir Prioryman to ArbCom and there needs to be easy access to those diffs. As I've said before, I think that case will set a new record for the amount of evidence presented against a single editor. Even Prioryman friend Roger...
by Moonage Daydream
Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:42 pm
Forum: Technology
Topic: The Visual Editor is a huge failure
Replies: 1609
Views: 268660

Re: The Visual Editor is a huge failure

WMF commissions report on "objectionable content", report recommends user controlled filters, WMF proposes filters, community objects, WMF caves.

WMF releases buggy WYSIWYG software, community objects, WMF stands its ground.
by Moonage Daydream
Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:08 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Prioryman vs the world
Replies: 101
Views: 4334

Re: Prioryman vs the world

Nice edit summary from Prioryman
restrictions lifted = end of controversy peddled by morons and fuckwits
by Moonage Daydream
Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:38 pm
Forum: Jimboland
Topic: Jimbo and the fairer sex
Replies: 120
Views: 19562

Re: Jimbo and the fairer sex

Saved By Jimbo
by Moonage Daydream
Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:47 pm
Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
Topic: Noam Bramson has arrived
Replies: 4
Views: 516

Re: Noam Bramson has arrived

That was fast. GETTING RESULTS: Noam Bramson Wikipedia Entry Flagged for Conflict of Interest Talk of the Sound, 9 September 2013 http://www.newrochelletalk.com/content/getting-results-noam-bramson-wikipedia-entry-flagged-conflict-interest Yesterday I wrote about Noam Bramson's highly questionable ...
by Moonage Daydream
Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:21 pm
Forum: Governance
Topic: WMUK secretary appointed Chief Executive of CIPR
Replies: 44
Views: 3259

Re: WMUK secretary appointed Chief Executive of CIPR

From the WMUK "watercooler" Alastair McCapra's declaration of interest I was grateful to see Alastair update his declaration at Declarations_of_Interest#Alastair_McCapra in advance of taking up the role of CEO of CIPR. CIPR and WMUK have had a productive relationship in the past, however this does a...
by Moonage Daydream
Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:02 am
Forum: News and Media
Topic: Chelsea Manning gets put back in the closet by Wikipedia
Replies: 30
Views: 2699

Re: Chelsea Manning gets put back in the closet by Wikipedia

I have biologists on my side. Right, I'm always sure to check with a biologist when I'm not sure what first name to use to refer to a person. How else would I know? FWIW, in the UK you can declare to be known by whatever name you like and as long as it is not for the purposes of deception then that...
by Moonage Daydream
Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:01 pm
Forum: News and Media
Topic: Maps
Replies: 109
Views: 1949

Re: Google Maps Drops Wikipedia Layer

Dunno, in years gone by they overlayed images that had geodata. Mostly it was nothing more than adding a level of eye-candy to the page, add a bit of extra interest or whatever. As their map competition declined and their ability to add more adverts to the page increased that layer went. Why would ...
by Moonage Daydream
Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:44 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Idiots
Replies: 5
Views: 585

Re: Idiots

If you go to this page on the Toolserver, you can ask a bot to fix all the reference problems (such as duplicate references) on the page you specify. But what if you are a blocked editor? Well, the bot just goes ahead and fixes the problems anyway. And what if you aren't a blocked user but you put ...
by Moonage Daydream
Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:06 pm
Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
Topic: Fake your life on Wikipedia
Replies: 93
Views: 4153

Re: Fake your life on Wikipedia

If you ever want to be like me, learn how to wake up I don't want to be like you. Dreck like this used to be space fillers for free newspapers that sell ad space to local real estate agents. I'm surprised you're making a living doing this. You are competing with all the other people who are churnin...
by Moonage Daydream
Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:39 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Is Azerbaijan the new Kazakhstan?
Replies: 62
Views: 37634

Re: Is Azerbaijan the new Kazakhstan?

The photo on Leyla Alieva's bio, http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Leyla_Aliyeva%2C_Founder_of_International_Dialogue_for_Environmental_Action_%28IDEA%29.jpg/220px-Leyla_Aliyeva%2C_Founder_of_International_Dialogue_for_Environmental_Action_%28IDEA%29.jpg was uploaded as "own ...
by Moonage Daydream
Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:38 pm
Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
Topic: Fake your life on Wikipedia
Replies: 93
Views: 4153

Re: Fake your life on Wikipedia

I'm of two minds about this whole situation. On the one hand, I'm really impressed with what Mr. Penny here has managed to do so far; I know I couldn't have done it, and the fact that I wouldn't have wanted to doesn't make it less impressive. On the other hand, this ongoing tendency of his to shoot...
by Moonage Daydream
Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:42 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Is Azerbaijan the new Kazakhstan?
Replies: 62
Views: 37634

Re: Is Azerbaijan is the new Kazakhstan?

So far, there doesn't seem to be any direct connection between VikiHərəkat and the Wikimedia Foundation or Jimbo. But, Tony Blair is definitely connected to Azerbaijan in a very Jimbo-esque way. Evening Standard: Reputation launderers: the London PR firms with their own image problems PR agencies a...
by Moonage Daydream
Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:29 pm
Forum: News and Media
Topic: Chelsea Manning
Replies: 60
Views: 622

Re: Chelsea Manning gets put back in the closet by Wikipedia

Did anyone notice that SlimVirgin apparently contacted Chelsea Manning's attorney, and the lawyer stated that Chelsea prefers that the "she" pronoun be used for post-announcement Manning, but "he" is okay for pre-announcement Manning? Which is exactly what I said made logical sense, while others he...
by Moonage Daydream
Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:23 pm
Forum: News and Media
Topic: My lawyer reads Wikipedia!
Replies: 17
Views: 438

Re: My lawyer reads Wikipedia!

The Joy wrote:Please tell me this is satire. :frustrated: :vom:
* Disclaimer: These tips do not constitute legal advice and will not actually help pass a law degree, but should provide comic relief to ease the conscience of law students. But don't sue me if not.
by Moonage Daydream
Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:03 am
Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
Topic: Fake your life on Wikipedia
Replies: 93
Views: 4153

Re: Fake your life on Wikipedia

I deleted it as a A7 though G4 is applicable as well as the original two deleted versions was written by Mr. Penny (same account). He clearly doesn't have a good grip on sources, as basically every source is articles that he has written (80% of the citations) or doesn't mention him at all (20%). We...
by Moonage Daydream
Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:02 am
Forum: News and Media
Topic: Chelsea Manning
Replies: 60
Views: 622

Re: Chelsea Manning gets put back in the closet by Wikipedia

This issue has already been resolved, in favor of the activist POV-pushing crew, who can't even wait 30 fucking days for their complete victory. The mainstream media seems to be buying in to the idea that a person can change their name and gender with a news conference, which renders the WP debate ...
by Moonage Daydream
Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:29 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Andy Pigsonthewing to have time on his trotters...
Replies: 75
Views: 4513

Re: Andy Pigsonthewing to have time on his trotters...

HRIP7 wrote:
Vigilant wrote:
Pigsonthewing banned 6 5 0 PASSING
No longer. Timotheus canens has switched to Abstain.
Is anyone surprised?
by Moonage Daydream
Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:13 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Russavia stands up for consent rules on Commons
Replies: 4
Views: 488

Russavia stands up for consent rules on Commons

Russavia is being unusually strict about consent issues for an image of a politician photographed at his son's funeral. Can he have turned over a new leaf after his recent pummelling at the hands of his peers ? Whilst Alfred is a notable person, on Commons we have an COM:IDENT guideline of which Com...
by Moonage Daydream
Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:02 pm
Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
Topic: Chelsea Manning
Replies: 364
Views: 12915

Re: Chelsea Manning

Vigilant wrote:The sixth grade called and wants their insult back.
If they ask about me tell them you don't have my number.
by Moonage Daydream
Mon Sep 02, 2013 6:15 am
Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
Topic: Chelsea Manning
Replies: 364
Views: 12915

Re: Chelsea Manning

Commons:Categories for discussion/2013/09/Category:Bradley Manning Category:Bradley Manning On August 22, Bradley Manning came out as transgender and wishes to be known as "Chelsea Manning" henceforth. In deference to her wishes, we should move the category "Bradley Manning" (and all files in it) t...
by Moonage Daydream
Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:35 am
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Andy Pigsonthewing to have time on his trotters...
Replies: 75
Views: 4513

Re: Andy Pigsonthewing to have time on his trotters...

Roger Davies has voted in favour of the indefinite ban – he's marked it "Second choice", but even so, as far as I can make out, that means the ban passes 6:5. The comment is a key qualifier, though. It is basically a way of signaling that passage of the first choice negates the approval of the seco...
by Moonage Daydream
Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:28 am
Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
Topic: Asaram Bapu: Jimbo is accused in BLP violation
Replies: 23
Views: 2592

Re: Asaram Bapu: Jimbo is accused in BLP violation

Hi. I wanted to know if it is okay to add that Asaram Bapu started his life as a bootlegger since it has been published in a major English newspaper in India. [2] IPS stands for Indian Police Service.--Crème3.14159 (talk) 01:09, 2 September 2013 (UTC) Feel free to discuss it on the talk page. Tell ...
by Moonage Daydream
Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:11 am
Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
Topic: Chelsea Manning
Replies: 364
Views: 12915

Re: Chelsea Manning

For me, consistently calling Manning "she" is not redefining who they were in the past. Exactly. You're both a couple fries short of a Happy Meal if you think that. Jesus... You think changing a name or pronoun retroactively changes a 5 year old Bradley Manning into a little girl? I don't. They wer...
by Moonage Daydream
Sun Sep 01, 2013 3:03 pm
Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
Topic: Asaram Bapu: Jimbo is accused in BLP violation
Replies: 23
Views: 2592

Re: Asaram Bapu: Jimbo is accused in BLP violation

This is actually more than the usual Jimbo tempest in a teapot. Admins regularly remove discussions of these kinds of allegations from talk pages "because WP:BLP applies on talk pages too". For some reason Jimbo has locked on to this particular case and is standing his ground. According to Jimbo, if...
by Moonage Daydream
Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:22 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Fair Use - Getty Images
Replies: 62
Views: 2711

Re: Fair Use - Getty Images

I think Roger has a fair point. We are pretty rough on new accounts if we suspect they have supped on the WP Koolaid. We should give people the chance to engage in discussion before driving them away. Just in general. In this case there were problems right from the start.
by Moonage Daydream
Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:29 pm
Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
Topic: Chelsea Manning
Replies: 364
Views: 12915

Re: Chelsea Manning

2. I don't doubt in the least that Bradley Manning seeks gender reassignment hormone therapy and surgery. Desiring something and describing that as an accomplished fact are quite different. Worse yet is the neo-Orwellian revision of biography, effectively backdating this pseudoreality to birth. It'...
by Moonage Daydream
Sat Aug 31, 2013 4:35 am
Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
Topic: Chelsea Manning
Replies: 364
Views: 12915

Re: Chelsea Manning

1. The title of the page prior to the events in dispute was "Bradley Manning"; this was a long-term, stable title, and the brief and limited discussion prior to the initial page move to "Chelsea Manning" does not constitute the formation of community consensus to move the page. Therefore, the defau...
by Moonage Daydream
Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:07 am
Forum: News and Media
Topic: Wikipedia and libraries: Revolution through collaboration
Replies: 42
Views: 543

Re: Wikipedia Loves Libraries Campaign Returns

penwise wrote:Really? There's an anti-Wikipedia attitude at libraries?
I haven't seen one.
by Moonage Daydream
Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:35 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Andy Pigsonthewing to have time on his trotters...
Replies: 75
Views: 4513

Re: Andy Pigsonthewing to have time on his trotters...

-edit- And...now not banned, as AGK has switched to oppose an outright ban. Wish I had taken bets now... Looks like Roger Davies will get to cast the deciding vote. I guess AGK wanted to be seen taking the hard line but didn't actually want the hard line. Or he just caved under off wiki pressure. H...
by Moonage Daydream
Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:03 pm
Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
Topic: Chelsea Manning
Replies: 364
Views: 12915

Re: Chelsea Manning

Ming is personally OK with the use of Chelsea now and the use of female pronouns going forward . It's the acting if their name was always "Chelsea" and the insistence on female pronouns in the narrative of the past that is cranky and inaccurate. The historians' term for this is "anachronistic"... I...
by Moonage Daydream
Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:34 pm
Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
Topic: Chelsea Manning
Replies: 364
Views: 12915

Re: Chelsea Manning

I think the answer is that you are asking the wrong question. Do you think sex and gender are the same thing? Is the "journey" of "changing your sex" a path with only one possible starting point and one possible ending point and everyone takes the same steps? I am well aware of the over-simplified ...
by Moonage Daydream
Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:17 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Illustrating failure WMUK style
Replies: 15
Views: 772

Re: Illustrating failure WMUK style

Vigilant wrote:How is it that the file uploader is Sage Ross (WMF)?
You mean why did Sage Ross claim it is his "own work"?
Text by Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia
Commons contributors
Design by EXBROOK, San Francisco
Puzzly and illustrations by Michael Bartalos
by Moonage Daydream
Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:58 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Andy Pigsonthewing to have time on his trotters...
Replies: 75
Views: 4513

Re: Andy Pigsonthewing to have time on his trotters...

Currently, they're leaning in favor of an infobox topic ban 4-2; there's a 3-3 split on a total siteban. In short, the "supreme court" will pussy out again. Snivel, snivel, followed by the gentle tap on the wrist. It amuses no longer. I would post "Ira, you suck", but it will have no effect. How pe...
by Moonage Daydream
Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:30 pm
Forum: Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects - General Discussion
Topic: Illustrating failure WMUK style
Replies: 15
Views: 772

Illustrating failure WMUK style

Stevie Benton is localizing the brochure on donating images to Commons. He sent it out to the UK mailing list for comment. This is the paragraph he added about WMUK: Wikimedia UK Wikimiedia UK is a charity and is the local chapter of the global Wikimedia movement. We exist to support and promote Wik...
by Moonage Daydream
Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:57 pm
Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
Topic: Chelsea Manning
Replies: 364
Views: 12915

Re: Chelsea Manning

I just saw this a bit ago on Jimbo's talk: Not so, Manning is unquestionably notable for her statement that she is now a female called Chelsea, indeed that is arguably the most notable thing this notable human being has done . Thanks, ♫ SqueakBox talk contribs 18:36, 25 August 2013 (UTC) It saddens...
by Moonage Daydream
Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:35 pm
Forum: Biographies (BLPs) & Privacy
Topic: Chelsea Manning
Replies: 364
Views: 12915

Re: Chelsea Manning

I do quite heartily believe that if you are born a boy, then you are male, and if you're born a girl, you're female. Obviously people can change that down the road through surgery and drugs, but you kinda start off pre-assigned to one team. That's a slight over-simplification, but basically it's tr...